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So you’re telling me….that the Broncos fire Sean Payton tomorrow, Bo Nix gets to say “I’m a free agent. Who wants me? I can start tomorrow.”??

because that’s 100% false. In no professional sport does an athlete under contract get to walk away from his team simply because his coach was fired. Players don’t have that control.
Kong says things I don’t agree with . But it’s his opinion on a message board. But this is not an opinion he is saying something that is completely wrong and passing it along as fact .
 
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So you’re telling me….that the Broncos fire Sean Payton tomorrow, Bo Nix gets to say “I’m a free agent. Who wants me? I can start tomorrow.”??

because that’s 100% false. In no professional sport does an athlete under contract get to walk away from his team simply because his coach was fired. Players don’t have that control.
Not at all what I’m telling you

What I’m telling you is pros become free agents mid season all the time in every professional sport
 

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Maybe...maybe not. We'll see. I suspect it will be upheld personally and if i'm the lawyer they ask that question to i'd turn it around and ask the judge if it's OK if we just disolve the scholly/contract on our end in the middle of the season if we feel like it? I suspect any lawyer repping the athlete who's being affected would point to his scholly/contract and ask "where is that clause, cause I don't find it.."?
Maybe and that is a great question but that would be a different case
But yes, coaches can already kick kids off the team.
 

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Again, a RS year is insurance in case a situation arises that would preclude a player from actually losing 1 of the 4 years they can play on the field. There is no rule in place that requires or guarantees a player uses a redshirt year. You can't forfeit something that you are using to for the intended reason.
good context for this discussion

well, maybe not for your side

Talking about redshirting layers, Rhule said he's in a real tough spot because he's being told the 5-for-5 rule is going to pass later this year. It would grant student-athletes five full seasons of competition within a five-year period.
 

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Maybe and that is a great question but that would be a different case
But yes, coaches can already kick kids off the team.

Playing college sports, much like say, driving a car, isn't a right, its a privlige (sp)??? That comes with requirements that need to be met by the player if they wish to contiue to play. Does that factor into this deal? (I don't know the answer..just popped into my head)
 
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good context for this discussion

well, maybe not for your side
So once again, even if the 5 for 5 passes, the players will have played games this season, so the season will count and redshirting will become irrelevant. They can still enter the portal now or at the end of the season. They can continue to play at the current school, but if they are so inclined, they can enter the portal, leave the team now finish the semester there and then leave.
 

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of course not.

I didn't read that far into your post. sorry for the confusion.

laughing at that dipshit @Big bo fan who is always giddy to jump in to try and prove to the world he's not a complete dumbass

nobody dumber
BS that’s exactly what you meant then when you are proven wrong you resort to name calling. Classic King monkey .
 
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Playing college sports, much like say, driving a car, isn't a right, its a privlige (sp)??? That comes with requirements that need to be met by the player if they wish to contiue to play. Does that factor into this deal? (I don't know the answer..just popped into my head)
Probably! That is why coaches can kick kids off.
 

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Probably! That is why coaches can kick kids off.

Do kids lose anything besides the ability to play ball though?? If they get booted?

Could you see a way that a disgruntled 2nd stringer acts out on purpose so he can get booted, and go to another program amd play the same year? Would that be OK?
 

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Do kids lose anything besides the ability to play ball though?? If they get booted?

Could you see a way that a disgruntled 2nd stringer acts out on purpose so he can get booted, and go to another program amd play the same year? Would that be OK?
No because that player would have to enter the portal to transfer. There is no portal in the middle of the year. And since no coach was fired he wouldn’t get the 30 day window.
 

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No because that player would have to enter the portal to transfer. There is no portal in the middle of the year. And since no coach was fired he wouldn’t get the 30 day window.

I understand all that...I was curious what superfan thought..because (no offense but) that dude is OK with any and everything...I was just curious of he had a line of any kind...

Superbigfan i'm not being a dick, I was just wondering how far these transfers and playing in the same season you'd allow. Thats all.
 

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Do kids lose anything besides the ability to play ball though?? If they get booted?

Could you see a way that a disgruntled 2nd stringer acts out on purpose so he can get booted, and go to another program amd play the same year? Would that be OK?
I think they lose their scholarship, don't they?

I could see that, sure. But that is on the coach to deal with it. Just like at work. A boss can can a guy or deal with it.
 

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I understand all that...I was curious what superfan thought..because (no offense but) that dude is OK with any and everything...I was just curious of he had a line of any kind...

Superbigfan i'm not being a dick, I was just wondering how far these transfers and playing in the same season you'd allow. Thats all.
If your coach is fired, I think the kid should be able to transfer and play that very same day.

I think you always have to look at the worst case...say you had a coach that was molesting players (shout out to PSU), and that coach gets canned and tossed in prison. Those players should be able to transfer and play immediately.
 

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For instance.

Bruce Pearl, a known scumbag, just "retired" today, the first day of CBB practice, he did it so that Auburn would be forced to give the HC gig to his son.

Should those players that want to leave have to sit out until second semester? Makes no sense at all.
 
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So once again, even if the 5 for 5 passes, the players will have played games this season, so the season will count and redshirting will become irrelevant. They can still enter the portal now or at the end of the season. They can continue to play at the current school, but if they are so inclined, they can enter the portal, leave the team now finish the semester there and then leave.
a clear path to immediate eligibility for players who are able to transfer mid-season due to provisions like coach-fired
 

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If your coach is fired, I think the kid should be able to transfer and play that very same day.

I think you always have to look at the worst case...say you had a coach that was molesting players (shout out to PSU), and that coach gets canned and tossed in prison. Those players should be able to transfer and play immediately.
The rule may change over time because until recently College was never like the NFL .Colleges rarely fired coaches mid season.
 
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The rule may change over time because until recently College was never like the NFL .Colleges rarely fired coaches mid season.
Agreed.

Plus, the rule was in place to give coaches/schools all the control. Which they loved having and often times abused that power.

I think it is safe to see that with the 1,000's of transfers each and every year, that for years and years, kids were being basically held captive at their first school, for no good reason at all. Except something about "honor" and "keeping your word" and blah blah blah.
 

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For instance.

Bruce Pearl, a known scumbag, just "retired" today, the first day of CBB practice, he did it so that Auburn would be forced to give the HC gig to his son.

Should those players that want to leave have to sit out until second semester? Makes no sense at all.

...they got in bed with a dog and are surprised they got bit?

I still wouldn't allow same year playing time, what I would do is advise kids to make a choice they're sure they can live with and use this as an example.
 
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For instance.

Bruce Pearl, a known scumbag, just "retired" today, the first day of CBB practice, he did it so that Auburn would be forced to give the HC gig to his son.

Should those players that want to leave have to sit out until second semester? Makes no sense at all.
I think the issue is still allowing student athletes to transfer schools middle semester .if the universities allowed athletes in these cases start school at Nebraska in October. I believe they would have to open that up to anyone who wants to do this . I just don’t think the schools want to open that can of worms.
 

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...they got in bed with a dog and are surprised they got bit?

I still wouldn't allow same year playing time, what I would do is advise kids to make a choice they're sure they can live with and use this as an example.
Man, that is a tough lesson when you only get 5 years to do it.

"I know you are 18...BUT even if your coach decides to retire all of a sudden, you are stuck here, even if he gets fired, you are stuck here, even if he molests you, you are stuck here, so think about it long and hard"
 

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Man, that is a tough lesson when you only get 5 years to do it.

"I know you are 18...BUT even if your coach decides to retire all of a sudden, you are stuck here, even if he gets fired, you are stuck here, even if he molests you, you are stuck here, so think about it long and hard"

They're not stuck, they can leave.
 
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They just can't play...even if they were molested?

Doesn't that seem kind of unfair?

Molested is another whole ball of wax. I ain't going there...has that actually ever happened? Even at PSU nobody was molesting players.

Does it surprise you one bit Bruce did what he did? Probably not...why is that? Because everyone knows he's as scummy as they get. Don't hitch your wagon to scum bags.
 

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Molested is another whole ball of wax. I ain't going there...has that actually ever happened? Even at PSU nobody was molesting players.

Does it surprise you one bit Bruce did what he did? Probably not...why is that? Because everyone knows he's as scummy as they get. Don't hitch your wagon to scum bags.
That is sort of my point though. I think the rule needs to be in place for the WORST thing that can happen.

It surprises me that he did it today only because I thought he would wait until next season to **** everyone over.
 

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That is sort of my point though. I think the rule needs to be in place for the WORST thing that can happen.

It surprises me that he did it today only because I thought he would wait until next season to **** everyone over.

So you've never heard of it happening?

...and you knew Bruce was going to screw em over at some point?
 

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I have never heard of it happening but that doesn't mean it hasn't.

And I think every coach will screw over his players and do what is best for them.


Not a fan of safety nets as wide as this would require. I am a fan of living with your decision you had plenty of time to think about before you made it.

I liken it to people who took out silly student loans for idiotic degrees and don't want to pay em back when they realize they goofed and ask somebody else to pay it back in the name of loan forgiveness.

...or buying to much car and 3mos later you realize those payments come around every 30 days so you want help for your decision

...or having more children than you can afford so you ask the tax payer to share the financial burden.

It's all in the same bucket for me. YMMV. But i'm sick of safety nets for everyone. Make good choices to start with and live with the consequences.
 

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Not a fan of safety nets as wide as this would require. I am a fan of living with your decision you had plenty of time to think about before you made it.

I liken it to people who took out silly student loans for idiotic degrees and don't want to pay em back when they realize they goofed and ask somebody else to pay it back in the name of loan forgiveness.

...or buying to much car and 3mos later you realize those payments come around every 30 days so you want help for your decision

...or having more children than you can afford so you ask the tax payer to share the financial burden.

It's all in the same bucket for me. YMMV. But i'm sick of safety nets for everyone. Make good choices to start with and live with the consequences.
I have no problem with that way of thinking.

I also just believe in freedom of choice and opportunity. Or else all of us would still be with our first job, first girlfriend, first house...
 

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I have no problem with that way of thinking.

I also just believe in freedom of choice and opportunity. Or else all of us would still be with our first job, first girlfriend, first house...

There are avenues out of every one of those life situations you describe and I agree.We should be able to look for a different avenue if something isn't working

.. But i'm over get out of jail free cards
 
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I have no problem with that way of thinking.

I also just believe in freedom of choice and opportunity. Or else all of us would still be with our first job, first girlfriend, first house...
no one is telling these players they can't transfer. So they can get the new job, new girlfriend and new house. There are non compete clauses in a lot of fields, especially sales and technology. Same thing as current transfer rules, players have a non compete clause if they leave in the middle of the current season.