it does if they choose to exercise their right to enter the portal under this exemption.
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See, I really think you are right.
So many people love to do that but if it was them or their kid, they would hate it.
"I would be happy just to be a walk-on at NU and pay my own way and work my *** off just to be on the team even if it meant I never played a single down, that kid that transferred is just soft and doesn't know the meaning of the word "honor""
i understand you have very strong feelings on this to. I get it.
Contracts mean something, and now that players are being paid and treated like adults, they should live up to them.
Sure, I have no problem with that.
Now, if they go to the AD (since the coach is fired) and say "I would like to leave now. Since my coach is gone"
As the AD what are you doing? Are you telling that 20 year old "Sucks for you, I am not letting you leave and you better still play your very best!"
And then that gets out and your program looks horrible?
I would rather the player just have freedom of movement when their coach is fired.
Nope. I thank him for his time and wish him luck and he is free to leave...and until the rule is changed, it isn't up to me as an AD whether or not he can play in the same season.
Agreed and that rule will be changed with one court case, if any player feels like doing that.
When's the last time you heard somebody actually say that? Back in our heyday maybe, but its been 30 years since somebody uttered those words.
Again, nobody is saying contracts don’t mean anything.
no player is breaking their pact in this well-documented coach fired exemption case, which has been agreed to by both parties.
..can't honestly say i remember reading that in recent memory. But using your words, in real life, never. That mindset doesn't really exist anymore.
They can stay at the school and on the team until the end of the semester and season.
Keep in mind this is all because the school first broke a contract with the coach. It would be a little hypocritical to use a “contract” as the argument.
This all day long. Fans seem to hate the portal but coaches use it as a way to cleanse their roster and open up spots from players who either didn’t perform or don’t want to be there. There are the rare exceptions such as quarterback or kicker where one guy gets most of the action. It would be painful to see TJ leave because he’s behind Dylan.
They do have freedom of movement. But if they have already played more than the four games to redshirt then they lose that year. That’s the rule.
Sure, but that was not the rule even just a few years ago. It is all changing and going to change.
Maybe wait to see if they change the rules but it is the rule now. They get 4 games. If not they can red shirt. If they have played more they might as well stay and finish the year. It’s not like they can enroll in the new school in the 5th week.
Well that is up to the each school.
I am guessing that every school has, at one time or another, made an exception for a student. So we know that it happens and it will continue to happen.
Its a contract, and when the school fires a coach they buy him out.. IE, honor their end of the contract. Nothing was broken.
And when a coach is fired, players can enter the portal for 30 days thereafter
nothing is broken there, either
His ability to coach was broken. The player contract could be similar. They took away his ability to be coached by that coach
But it isn't up to every school. There is a rule in place that states a student cannot play for 2 schools in the same season. One only needs to go back a few years to when Gebbia left Nebraska. He had to leave before they started the season. The Akron game that year was scheduled for Sept 1. If I recall, he couldn't practice that week with the team or it would count as playing for that school, so he asked for his release on Sunday, didn't practice on Monday and was granted his release on Tuesday. Because Oregon St hadn't started classes yet, he could withdraw from Nebraska and still go to school at Oregon St, but under the rules at the time, still had to sit out the 2018 season.
Right
I am talking about when schools can admit students. That is up to the school. Lincoln could change their admission date today and the NCAA would have nothing to do with it at all.
No, a player gets 5 years to play 4. Nothing is forfeited. Again under the current rules a player cannot play for 2 schools during the same season. The exemption is available, but it doesn't have to be used. The player can stay at the current school then transfer in January, the player can wait and see who the next coach is and end up staying at the school, or the player can enter the portal within the 30 day window and if they hadn't played in 4 games, retain a year of eligibility by using their redshirt year.
No single professional organization lets you become a free agent midseason simply because their coach got fired though.
OK
Other than the player still wouldn't be eligible to play for 2 schools in the same season. So like Gebbia, the player could enroll at the new school, However under the current rules, the NCAA prohibits him from playing in games for the new school, regardless of their admission date.
But you don't forfeit it in this case. It is an extra year to be used for special situations to save one of the 4 years of playing eligibility. It is like insurance, no one says they are forfeiting their premium if they make a claim
I mean, it is just a matter of time until it is changed.
What judge in their right mind would rule against a player getting to go play for a new team?
The NCAA can make up all the rules they want and that is fine but it doesn't mean they are going to last.
Imagine this case going to a judge
"Your honor, we here at the NCAA have decided that a player can't leave his team when his coach has been canned and go play for a new team"
Judge: "Okay, how come?"
"Ummmm, because we said so???"
What judge in their right mind would rule against a player getting to go play for a new team?
The NCAA can make up all the rules they want and that is fine but it doesn't mean they are going to last.
Imagine this case going to a judge
"Your honor, we here at the NCAA have decided that a player can't leave his team when his coach has been canned and go play for a new team"
Judge: "Okay, how come?"
"Ummmm, because we said so???"
insurance companies don't disallow you from driving after a claim is filed
a player is made to forfeit their right to play in up to 4 games in this case should they choose to exercise their transfer window
it makes no sense. the punishment doesn't fit.
That is not at all the same thing. Not every player goes on waivers because their coach is fired mid-season
Maybe...maybe not. We'll see. I suspect it will be upheld personally and if i'm the lawyer they ask that question to i'd turn it around and ask the judge if it's OK if we just disolve the scholly/contract on our end in the middle of the season if we feel like it? I suspect any lawyer repping the athlete who's being affected would point to his scholly/contract and ask "where is that clause, cause I don't find it.."?
Again, a RS year is insurance in case a situation arises that would preclude a player from actually losing 1 of the 4 years they can play on the field. There is no rule in place that requires or guarantees a player uses a redshirt year. You can't forfeit something that you are using to for the intended reason.
What ? So if The Bengals fire Taylor any player on the roster can just say I am going on the waiver wire. ? You’re full of **** .
So you’re telling me….that the Broncos fire Sean Payton tomorrow, Bo Nix gets to say “I’m a free agent. Who wants me? I can start tomorrow.”??
because that’s 100% false. In no professional sport does an athlete under contract get to walk away from his team simply because his coach was fired. Players don’t have that control.