Schiano got Rutgers back to Point B.
But, wow, he got outcoached badly by a semi-retired Ferentz.
Who can get Rutgers to Point C?
But, wow, he got outcoached badly by a semi-retired Ferentz.
Who can get Rutgers to Point C?
Schiano is washed. Who should replace him?
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Greg's ceiling has always been a middle of the road team
An agressive caocahing staff that plays to win using our strengths then a scared of losing mindset, for example, not a single screen pass for a strong defensive front, geez i am tired
Schiano is and will always be average. We need to think big. It may not work and the team could completely suck but fans can tolerate average for only so long.
He Has ALWAYS been a mediocre game day coach. He will never win a game for us with his coaching
But we love 3-0 to 4-6 and 7-6 and a trip to a no one cares bowl every year because Rutgers is just such a hard job and we settle for mediocrity
…and he probably thought he stood a chance to be the Tennessee coach…
the best thing that happened to him was the fan base revolting to spare him from an embarrassing firing one year out… Although he would’ve probably pocketed some decent cash
the best thing that happened to him was the fan base revolting to spare him from an embarrassing firing one year out… Although he would’ve probably pocketed some decent cash
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Right. From a program that has seen Terry Shea, Kyle Flood, and Chris Ash…we tried the whole “it may not work thing.” And when we did, people were saying “I’d be thrilled to just be competing.”
Typical schiano season. He beats up on terrible teams, and then he loses to decent teams and calls it a day. Groundhog day. Every year it is the same.
He beat plenty of decent teams the past couple of years.
We’ve had 3 coaches in about 25 years so not really much a sample size to say much of anything imo.
The conference record is always what I like to look at because that’s where your bread is buttered, which ever conference you’re in. If you’re ever going to make any noise like say get into to the rankings that’s where it matters. 9 out of 12 games are from there so if you can’t do good to well there it’s hard to get much notice.
Having Schiano as HC is like living in purgatory.
Who can we afford that's objectively capable of fixing this team?
That’s being very generous.
He got us out of the Ash hole we were in so we should all be very thankful for that. His ceiling is 6-7 wins. Give the new AD sometime and changes might be in the works.
Pray all we want his bloated, wholly undeserved contract will ensure he’s here long after the prez and AD will have moved on.
He’ll be our HC ‘til he retires after decades of stealing salary.
Amen. Got fired at Ohio State too and the fans here were still thrilled to hire this fraudster and will sing his praises until the cows come home.…and he probably thought he stood a chance to be the Tennessee coach…
Don’t forget the raises and extensions with the only justification being that he wants them.
It was a terrible situation no doubt but there are a lot of bad situations around CFB where coaches are able to get good results but you have to be aware what's going on out there and realize what's possible and happening around you.
I've said before Kansas was as bad a situation as you'll find, a bunch of issues. Kansas averaged like less than 2 wins for a decade and was still dealing with scholarship imbalance issues dating back to Weis (not an issue now with the portal now) when Leipold got hired and they've made a couple bowls and finished 1 year ranked.
Tom Allen was 3-24 in conference the last 3 years of his tenure, Ash was 3-26 in conference when he was fired and we've seen what Cignetti was able to do at the losingest program in the FBS or P4 I forget. Even Allen was able to get ranked and would have made a 12 team playoff in the covid year.
Lovie was 10-33 in conference before Bielema and he's had an 8 win year, a 10 win year and finished ranked and currently in the top 10 (although I think they're a little overanked but we'll see today)
Matt Campbell has done a bunch of things at ISU that have never been done before there.
There are other examples of varying degrees across CFB. It doesn't mean they'll be fixtures in the spotlight but anyone can have their moments. None of these guys were sure things, there really aren't any sure things not named Saban or Meyer. It's always a crap shoot but you have to be willing to roll the dice. Maybe you get an Ash level horrible or someone subpar and if so you try again, it's always possible to recover as you see with these examples. On the other side maybe you get someone who can lift you to places you haven't been in a long time or ever. You have to be willing to try though.
GS' contract was extended and I think he'll do well enough to be around for awhile and we'll see what happens but I'm not big on the woe is me we're RU we can't achieve anything, it's impossible here etc.. I look around CFB and see a lot of things are possible, especially in this new landscape where people complain a lot about portal or NIL but don't actually see what's happening around CFB.
Actually, this is RU's ceiling. Credit to Greg for consistently achieving this.
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but stop with Leipold already at Kansas. Poor example. 24-29 and 13-23 in conference is not good.
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C’mon guy. Aside from being wrong about the comparison, you don’t even know the guy’s name. Fail x 2
Rutgers has obstacles for all head coaches to overcome.It starts with funding concerns that have gotten worse with the N1L.The history of losing league games makes it difficult to attrack diffference maker talent at key positions like the defensive line.Rutgers location in NJ doesn't receive media attention as compared to other B1G Ten schools because of emhasis on professional teams.The end result is that Rutgers in a 18 team conference will be mired in the bottom tier schools for most sports.The expectations are low with small fan bases caring but they aren't the difference makers to change the status quo.
I don't think any of them are bad examples. It's just one of a bunch that show what kind of things are achievable despite extremely bad to bad situations. Any team can have its moment in the sun. In today's landscape, it's even more possible than ever before.
It's a horrible example, and I am surprised you kept trotting him out. . 24-29 and 13-23 in conference is not good. He has been at best average in P5 in a weaker conference. We will agree to disagree on him. And this is no defense of Greg.
And you have to take into account the history before got there and it wasn't just a few years it was a decade of crap and issues. There's context. It's really that first year of his tenure at 2-10/1-8 that weighs down the overall record. A lot of here always want to take out first 4 years for GS, if you just remove the first 1 out of LL, after a decade of averaging barely 2 wins, his record is a more respectable 22-19 and 12-15 in conference. So basically around .500ish with 2 bowl games and 1 year finished ranked. For Kansas that's solid, not even taking into account the decade of crap that preceded him.
The main point is less about LL and more about a lot of things are possible regardless of the horrible situation and in today's landscape the opportunities for low status schools are as good as ever.
Iowa made the better 2nd half adjustments which is not surprising given their superior HC and staff.
Our defense and special teams are awful.
In sequence when we incurred INT late in q4- why did we run the ball on 2nd and 10?
Our defense and special teams are awful.
In sequence when we incurred INT late in q4- why did we run the ball on 2nd and 10?
100%.
and it’s that story that has led to pretty widespread apathy across the fanbase and also a lost generation of alumni fans from 2015-present
Knowing that Iowa was going to be able to make halftime adjustments, it was a horrendous failure to not take advantage of having the offense that hadn’t punted yet on the field one more time with over a minute left in the half and theee timeouts.
This game remind me of the Nebraska Friday game a few yrs back when we lost like 14-13. GS made some staff changes after game
Just another game closer to finally getting rid of the worst coach in the Big Ten. He is a defensive and special teams guy. Both got embarrassed and outplayed against a putrid offensive team.
Thankfully he will be gone soon
Thankfully he will be gone soon
Just another game closer to finally getting rid of the worst coach in the Big Ten. He is a defensive and special teams guy. Both got embarrassed and outplayed against a putrid offensive team.
Thankfully he will be gone soon
Thankfully he will be gone soon
Ok, so Schiano goes and we lose nearly all of our boosters and donors. We also lose most of our 3 and 4 star prospects that saw how we were developing players for the NFL under Schiano.
Now what?
Hawk fan here. You guys are going to have a solid season if injuries don't kill it.
You have nice talent. Hawks got lucky last nite.
Good luck.
You have nice talent. Hawks got lucky last nite.
Good luck.
What good are boosters and donors if he wastes their money. Let them put toward something else that makes good use of it. Volleyball, crew, academics, whatever.
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