Nebraska in contact with transfer

[Huskers+123]

Makes no sense

have yet to hear a good reason as to why a player can’t be immediately eligible when transferring after their coach is fired

The word "good" is relative.
There are plenty of reasons he can't transfer mid-season, many have been given here. Those reasons are pretty good, to me.

The are no reasons that will be good to you, regardless of the reason. After all, you will never admit you may be wrong.

 

[king_kong__]

The word "good" is relative.
There are plenty of reasons he can't transfer mid-season, many have been given here. Those reasons are pretty good, to me.

The are no reasons that will be good to you, regardless of the reason. After all, you will never admit you may be wrong.

those aren't reasons, they're feelings.

 

[realHuskerDrew]

There’s already an eligibility rule in the NCAA that says once you play a game for a school in a season you are automatically ineligible for any other team that season
And I believe that covers even not actually appearing in a game,
But once the season starts you play for that team or none at all

 

[Huskers+123]

those aren't reasons, they're feelings.

Yep. NCAA rules are feelings. Academic transfer rules are feelings. Past precedent is feelings.
They seem like reasons to me, just reasons you don't like.

Your argument: "Why shouldn't they be able to transfer?" - very fact based!

 

[king_kong__]

Your argument: "Why shouldn't they be able to transfer?" - very fact based!

this is a question, not an argument.

 

[inWV]

Play the season out and tell your handlers to start contacting other teams.

 

[Huskers+123]

this is a question, not an argument.

Yet you continue to argue your question in the face of reasons. Thus showing that you are the person who is actually basing their supposition on feelings.

 

[king_kong__]

Yet you continue to argue your question in the face of reasons. Thus showing that you are the person who is actually basing their supposition on feelings.

NCAA rules and past precedent (lol), as we've seen, are worth less than the paper they're printed on.

they change and/or are castrated in court quarterly. not a good reason.

academic semesters? sure. even though exceptions are also made on a daily basis for students across the country.

school just started. the transfer window in question here will be closed weeks before Halloween. the academic calendar is a flimsy case against at best. especially so when school standing means less than ever for player eligibility.

I cannot remember the last time I heard of a football player being deemed ineligible due to grades.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

I will never understand why we are so worried about college kids moving from one school to another.

 

[Huskers+123]

NCAA rules and past precedent (lol), as we've seen, are worth less than the paper they're printed on.

they change and/or are castrated in court quarterly. not a good reason.

academic semesters? sure. even though exceptions are also made on a daily basis for students across the country.

school just started. the transfer window in question here will be closed weeks before Halloween. the academic calendar is a flimsy case against at best. especially so when school standing means less than ever for player eligibility.

I cannot remember the last time I heard of a football player being deemed ineligible due to grades.

Seems like those are reasons. You disagree with them, but they are reasons.
You've given no good "reason" why he should be allowed to transfer mid-season, other than your own disagreement with those reasons.

He can try to go ahead and transfer, and challenge all of those reasons. Thus setting a new precedent if he wins. He won't win, but he can try.

Have a good day Kong. Kickoff can't come soon enough.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

Play the season out and tell your handlers to start contacting other teams.

If you have not used a redshirt year yet, I would use it and get in the portal. Use the spring at the new school to get adjusted and learn the offense/ defense and have more time at he new school, rather than using this year of eligibility at the old school.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

NCAA won't win any court case. They can't, all of their "reasons" are bad.

They don't control when schools can-will-won't let kids enroll.

 

[RealTucoSalamanca]

NCAA rules and past precedent (lol), as we've seen, are worth less than the paper they're printed on.

they change and/or are castrated in court quarterly. not a good reason.

academic semesters? sure. even though exceptions are also made on a daily basis for students across the country.

school just started. the transfer window in question here will be closed weeks before Halloween. the academic calendar is a flimsy case against at best. especially so when school standing means less than ever for player eligibility.

I cannot remember the last time I heard of a football player being deemed ineligible due to grades.

Sounds like a what is vs what I think should be argument

 

[king_kong__]

Seems like those are reasons. You disagree with them, but they are reasons.
You've given no good "reason" why he should be allowed to transfer mid-season, other than your own disagreement with those reasons.

He can try to go ahead and transfer, and challenge all of those reasons. Thus setting a new precedent if he wins. He won't win, but he can try.

Have a good day Kong. Kickoff can't come soon enough.

I did give multiple reasons:

1. putatively penalizing a kid 20%-25% of his college football playing years because his coach got fired is a punishment that doesn't come close to fitting the "crime", especially after the NCAA has conceded this is a circumstance worthy of a transfer portal window exception in the first place.

2. immediate in-season eligibility for players switching teams is already the norm (precedent) in every single professional sports league with nary an exception, and it has been ruled that college athletes no longer carry amateur status (more precedent)

thus, this embargo makes no sense to me, a logical thinker

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Are schollies contracts? I thought yes. Are signed contracts just worthless? Kids should be able sign em with no intention of honoring them? Can companies who offer a player an NIL deal allowed to change their mind mid season and just not pay em what was promised? Does that sound OK?

 

[SuperBigFan69]

Are schollies contracts? I thought yes. Are signed contracts just worthless? Kids should be able sign em with no intention of honoring them? Can companies who offer a player an NIL deal allowed to change their mind mid season and just not pay em what was promised? Does that sound OK?

Sure, they can stop paying.

They could have to deal with it in court but they can stop paying.

But what coach would want a kid on the team that doesn't want to be on the team??? It turns out bad for everyone.

 

[RBigredMax1]

I did give multiple reasons:

1. putatively penalizing a kid 20%-25% of his college football playing years because his coach got fired is a punishment that doesn't come close to fitting the "crime", especially after the NCAA has conceded this is a circumstance worthy of a transfer portal window exception in the first place.

2. immediate in-season eligibility for players switching teams is already the norm (precedent) in every single professional sports league with nary an exception, and it has been ruled that college athletes no longer carry amateur status (more precedent)

thus, this embargo makes no sense to me, a logical thinker

I don’t understand #1 - how would Nico lose a season when he could continue to play this year and transfer next?

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Sure, they can stop paying.

They could have to deal with it in court but they can stop paying.

But what coach would want a kid on the team that doesn't want to be on the team??? It turns out bad for everyone.

So you agree that a business that just decides to stop paying is bad, and they should go ahead and honor their commitment, since they agreed to it??

...and athletes have always been able to quit if they no longer wish to be there. Nothing has changed in forever on that..

....but suggesting he can quit, after he signed his contract to play for that school, and doesn't have to pay any penalty like sitting out the rest of the year seems like you're saying he doesn't have to honor his end of a contract? ..at all.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

So you agree that a business that just decides to stop paying is bad, and they should go ahead and honor their commitment, since they agreed to it??

...and athletes have always been able to quit if they no longer wish to be there. Nothing has changed in forever on that..

....but suggesting he can quit, after he signed his contract to play for that school, and doesn't have to pay any penalty like sitting out the rest of the year seems like you're saying he doesn't have to honor his end of a contract? ..at all.

Well things changed. His head coach got canned. Are you talking about the UCLA QB?

 

[king_kong__]

I don’t understand #1 - how would Nico lose a season when he could continue to play this year and transfer next?

the NCAA has already deemed a coach being fired a circumstance worthy of introducing a special transfer portal exemption

materially penalizing a player for doing what has been determined as fully within their right makes no sense

 

[king_kong__]

Are schollies contracts? I thought yes. Are signed contracts just worthless? Kids should be able sign em with no intention of honoring them? Can companies who offer a player an NIL deal allowed to change their mind mid season and just not pay em what was promised? Does that sound OK?

the NCAA, by introducing the exemption for coach firings and opening a new window for those players, have thus nullified this entire line of thinking.

for everyone else, this applies. for the unique circumstance that is coach firings and the players at those programs, it does not.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

the NCAA has already deemed a coach being fired a circumstance worthy of introducing a special transfer portal exemption

materially penalizing a player for doing what has been determined as fully within their right makes no sense

Firing in season is pretty rare and probably a huge deal to a lot of players on that team.

1. For guys that did not think they were getting a fair shake (John Bullock went from not playing for NU to being a starters and making the NFL)

2. For guys that want to leave because their coach is gone.

I don't really think it is fair to punish them. They have a clock. 5 years, then they are done.

Shoot what if their coach decides to quit or gets sick or dies?

I guess I just like the idea of players being able to move around

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

the NCAA, by introducing the exemption for coach firings and opening a new window for those players, have thus nullified this entire line of thinking.

for everyone else, this applies. for the unique circumstance that is coach firings and the players at those programs, it does not.

Nullified how? The rules on players leaving a program and playing for another in same seaaon still exists, right? Are you saying you feel like it should be nullified?

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Firing in season is pretty rare and probably a huge deal to a lot of players on that team.

1. For guys that did not think they were getting a fair shake (John Bullock went from not playing for NU to being a starters and making the NFL)

2. For guys that want to leave because their coach is gone.

I don't really think it is fair to punish them. They have a clock. 5 years, then they are done.

Shoot what if their coach decides to quit or gets sick or dies?

I guess I just like the idea of players being able to move around

Who's being punished if the school is willing to honor their end of the contract?

 

[king_kong__]

Nullified how? The rules on players leaving a program and playing for another in same seaaon still exiats, right? Are you saying you feel like it should be nullified?

a clause clearly exists in scholarship agreements by way of the NCAA allowing players their own special transfer portal in the event of a coach firing

 

[king_kong__]

Who's being punished if the school is willing to honor their end of the contract?

the NCAA have clearly stated a player is within their right to explore the transfer portal in the event of a head coach firing

punishing them via forced forfeiture of a year of eligibility (redshirt year included) in doing so makes no sense

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

a clause clearly exists in scholarship agreements by way of the NCAA allowing players their own special transfer portal in the event of a coach firing

...players can transfer mid season, no rule against it. Are you saying you feel like that should also inc the ability to play same season?

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

the NCAA have clearly stated a player is within their right to explore the transfer portal in the event of a head coach firing

punishing them via forced forfeiture of a year of eligibility (redshirt year included) in doing so makes no sense

Nobody is saying they can't transfer. Sounds like you're saying you feel like that should inc being able to play in same season.

 

[king_kong__]

...players can transfer mid season, no rule against it. Are you saying you feel like that should also inc the ability to play same season?

first, I am only talking about players whose coach was fired, thus allowing them a special exempted transfer portal window.

please don't conflate this with all players all the time. players cannot transfer any time (duh), they have to wait for the next portal window to open up in January.

and, yes, I am saying those specific players impacted by a coach firing should be immediately eligible at their new school should they choose to exercise their right and leave during their special 30-day window.

 

[redwine65]

put Pritchett at dt, and a collar on him someone hits when the ball is snapped, and zaps him to go

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

first, I am only talking about players whose coach was fired, thus allowing them an exempted transfer portal window.

please don't conflate this with all players all the time. players cannot transfer any time (duh), they have to wait for the next portal window to open up in January.

and, yes, I am saying those specific players should be immediately eligible at their new school.

Maybe i have you confused with another kong, could have sworn i've seen you post players should be able to hop around whenevs the mood strikes and keep playing? Have I got that wrong?

....but back to coach firings and players being eligible same season for a different team, as of right now its illegal...and a signed contract should still mean something.

 

[king_kong__]

Maybe i have you confused with another kong, could have sworn i've seen you post players should be able to hop around whenevs the mood strikes and keep playing? Have I got that wrong?

....but back to coach firings and players being eligible same season for a different team, as of right now its illegal...and a signed contract should still mean something.

for the sake of this discussion, I am only talking about players who are afforded the right to transfer when their coaches are fired.

contracts do mean something. all contracts contain clauses. a coach being fired triggers a player's exit clause, should they choose to exercise it.

those players should not be then forced to forfeit a year of their playing careers and should be immediately eligible, IMO.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

...well if there is a clause that says a transfer kid can keep playing after a fired coach in the same season then it should be honored.

 

[king_kong__]

...well if there is a clause that says a transfer kid can keep playing after a fired coach in the same season then it should be honored.

players have the right to choose

they can stay or leave

eligibility - when it is so fleeting - shouldn't be at risk either way, IMO

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

players have the right to choose

they can stay or leave

eligibility - when it is so fleeting - shouldn't be at risk either way, IMO

I understand your feelings.

 

[king_kong__]

I understand your feelings.

no feelings. just simple, straightforward logic

I do not understand your or others' constant want to dictate how kids should live their lives based on what you feel is 'right', however

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Feelings can be very emotional. I get it.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

no feelings. just simple, straightforward logic

I do not understand your or others' constant want to dictate how kids should live their lives based on what you feel is 'right', however

I don't like when adults try to make it about "Honor" and "Your word"
These guys get 5 years to do this...then it is gone forever.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

for the sake of this discussion, I am only talking about players who are afforded the right to transfer when their coaches are fired.

contracts do mean something. all contracts contain clauses. a coach being fired triggers a player's exit clause, should they choose to exercise it.

those players should not be then forced to forfeit a year of their playing careers and should be immediately eligible, IMO.

The clause only allows them a 30 day window to enter the transfer portal. They can still play at their current school for the remainder of the year. It does not force them to forfeit a year or force them to enter the portal.

 

[king_kong__]

I don't like when adults try to make it about "Honor" and "Your word"
These guys get 5 years to do this...then it is gone forever.

it's a classic fallback for men who are certain in their ability to Do The Right Thing, so long as it's somebody else's life in question