Who was the shooter?

scotchtiger

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“I wanted to mind my business, raise my kids, pay taxes, clap cheeks, drink a cold one and grill a fvcking burger.” 😂

This is like 70%+ of dudes btw. You guys who post 50 times a day on here with dozens of social media links and overly dramatic BS are weirdos compared to most people. You aren’t necessarily mentally ill like @okclem or @Statepawdog, but a couple of you are close.
 
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fatpiggy

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But we can put to rest the groyper gaslighting. The FBI has fully debunked that misinformation. We will take apologies from any leftists that were spreading that propaganda whenever they are ready.

 
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scotchtiger

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But we can put to rest the groyper gaslighting. The FBI has fully debunked that misinformation. We will take apologies from any leftists that were spreading that propaganda whenever they are ready.



Interesting. Straight from the FBI, not random news sources or social media.
 
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baltimorened

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Should we start taking guns from anyone who believes in the Great Replacement theory? Or perhaps from the White Supremacist community?
problem seems to be we're not taking guns from anybody, and won't without a constitutional amendment. And, I predict that is not happening in my lifetime
 

baltimorened

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all these libs are nerds and outcasts seeking attention. Same as trannies.
so here's a serious question...I'm a really senior citizen, and up until the last few years have never heard of a transgender community, furries or the like. How did this happen? Is this a natural transition from being gay to being transgender?and, why should politicians be involved if a parent wants to allow his/her children to switch genders - as long as they pay for it themselves. How did we get to 13 (or whatever the number is now) genders? Why is the left so seemingly hung up on pushing this?

And, here's one, if a straight man is having sex with a transitioning trans female, isn't that just homosexualism?
 
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baltimorened

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and yet to some, many many, this would be classified as hate speech.
You didn't hear about them when Trump had dinner with Kanye West and Nick Fuentes? Probably because there is poor coverage of online communities in mainstream media. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/25/trump-white-nationalist-nick-fuentes-kanye-00070825

It's also because I used to be on 4chan in the 2000's and saw the white supremacists come in there and I left. I've seen their memes and understand their despicable trolling. Whether or not I've heard of them and you haven't, doesn't change what they are. Which are straight up racists, who are neo nazis.
ok, you sort of lost me..Kanye west is a white supremacist? I have a hard time accepting that
 
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fatpiggy

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so here's a serious question...I'm a really senior citizen, and up until the last few years have never heard of a transgender community, furries or the like. How did this happen? Is this a natural transition from being gay to being transgender?and, why should politicians be involved if a parent wants to allow his/her children to switch genders - as long as they pay for it themselves. How did we get to 13 (or whatever the number is now) genders? Why is the left so seemingly hung up on pushing this?

And, here's one, if a straight man is having sex with a transitioning trans female, isn't that just homosexualism?
I'll try on some of these.

1) How did this happen? My best guess is a collapse of the nuclear family and the need for people to belong. It's a social contagion imo.
2) Is it a natural transition from being gay to transgender? There is nothing, absolutely nothing, natural about being transgender. Being transgender involves surgery and drugs.
3) Why should politicians be involved if a parent wants to allow his child to switch genders? For one, it's child abuse. A child will believe anything, see Santa Clause / Easter Bunny / Super Hero's etc. It is downright evil to convince a child they were born in the wrong body and pump them full of hormones and subject them to life altering surgery.

We don't allow parents to give their children other drugs like marajuana, meth, etc. Why would we say it's ok to pump them full of hormones and other drugs?

Why is the left so hung up on pushing this? I am not quite sure, but i think suicidal empathy has something to do with it.
 

TigerRagRob

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well this seems like mainstream thought. And to think so many on here post about conservative violence.
Its called projection. Thats what the left does. They accuse us, without evidence,of what they are doing. If you catch them red handed then they claim both sides do it. Its always lies lies lies...
 
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TigerRagRob

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so here's a serious question...I'm a really senior citizen, and up until the last few years have never heard of a transgender community, furries or the like. How did this happen? Is this a natural transition from being gay to being transgender?and, why should politicians be involved if a parent wants to allow his/her children to switch genders - as long as they pay for it themselves. How did we get to 13 (or whatever the number is now) genders? Why is the left so seemingly hung up on pushing this?

And, here's one, if a straight man is having sex with a transitioning trans female, isn't that just homosexualism?


This started decades ago. McCarthy was right...
 

Dadar

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“I wanted to mind my business, raise my kids, pay taxes, clap cheeks, drink a cold one and grill a fvcking burger.” 😂

This is like 70%+ of dudes btw. You guys who post 50 times a day on here with dozens of social media links and overly dramatic BS are weirdos compared to most people. You aren’t necessarily mentally ill like @okclem or @Statepawdog, but a couple of you are close.
 

firegiver

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and yet to some, many many, this would be classified as hate speech.

ok, you sort of lost me..Kanye west is a white supremacist? I have a hard time accepting that
I'm guessing it has eluded you what Ye has been saying on the internet the last 4 years? I'm not saying he's a white supremacist, but he definitely has said white supremacist things. I will not repeat those things, but I do believe he famously went on Alex Jones show and made some uplifting comments about a german fellow who died in 1945. I'm sure you can look those things up and be prepared to be shocked.
 
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baltimorened

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I don't disagree, but all I was asking was for consistency.
being serious here, I personally think that the "horse is out of the barb" on general gun control...too many already out there, 2nd amendment, NRA, you pick.

But that doesn't mean we can't at least begin to get some of these guns off the streets. I don't know how, but there has to be a way for allowing the law abiding to keep guns and get them out of the hands of the not so law abiding or those which society deems as dangerous.

The right seems eager to do nothing, or very little, and the left just seems to want the political issue, which has gotten them nowhere other than some sound bites.

Right now, the US is the crime center of the world (I say without any facts). We are a pretty savvy people, we surely can come up with something. This is an area where I agree with both sides - we do need some form of control and we do need more effective law enforcement to get criminals with guns off the streets.

consistency is definitely not a political thing
 

Howard's Jock

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Everyone is jumping to say this was a radical liberal, but I don’t know many (any) liberals who would have the skills to drop a kill shot like that. Likely two hundred yards away, and sophisticated enough to not only scout out a site for the best angles, but also coordinate an escape plan.

this was an expert, as noted by the single shot. An unskilled marksman would have fired multiple shots.

Kirk was starting to feel heat from MAGA after his 180 on dropping the Epstein files. Trump called him and asked him to drop it, so he did, and then his followers were irate so he stayed on those files.

Someone in that list could have wanted him dead for keeping the pressure on bondi to release the files. Look at the pressure Laura Loomer was putting on him and painting him as a traitor.

he also was starting to turn on Israel. Mossad could have put a hit on him.

I just can’t see this shooter being some ***** hat wearing, rainbow flag waving drag queen. This was a trained killer.


im late to the party but pretty much had to stop reading after the opening sentence...your logic is you dont know any liberals that can handle a weapon well?
 
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fatpiggy

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Good on the Dad. Not sure where the Son went wrong, he is obviously the face of radicalization.

 

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I thought the reward was $100k from the FBI.

I can understand not wanting to take the blood money. No way would you do that. What would you do take your wife (the mother) on a vacay with the $$ after the execution? Or maybe use it for a kitchen reno? Hell, i could understand the dad volunteering to be on the firing squad more than taking reward $$.
 

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I thought the reward was $100k from the FBI.

I can understand not wanting to take the blood money. No way would you do that. What would you do take your wife (the mother) on a vacay with the $$ after the execution? Or maybe use it for a kitchen reno? Hell, i could understand the dad volunteering to be on the firing squad more than taking reward $$.
There were also a few individuals like Bill Ackman who personally pledged to the reward money
 
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yoshi121374

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I thought the reward was $100k from the FBI.

I can understand not wanting to take the blood money. No way would you do that. What would you do take your wife (the mother) on a vacay with the $$ after the execution? Or maybe use it for a kitchen reno? Hell, i could understand the dad volunteering to be on the firing squad more than takin

I thought the reward was $100k from the FBI.

I can understand not wanting to take the blood money. No way would you do that. What would you do take your wife (the mother) on a vacay with the $$ after the execution? Or maybe use it for a kitchen reno? Hell, i could understand the dad volunteering to be on the firing squad more than taking reward $$.

Not saying he should or would, but I could understand using it for his kids lawyer.

At the end of the day, this 22 year old did something awful and his life is over. This family has to be in such an awful amount of turmoil and grief.
 
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baltimorened

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Not saying he should or would, but I could understand using it for his kids lawyer.

At the end of the day, this 22 year old did something awful and his life is over. This family has to be in such an awful amount of turmoil and grief.
this might be callous, but the kids life is over. No matter how much money the parents spend on lawyers I doubt a happy ending. The room mate is singing like a bird just to protect his own butt.

sometimes you have to know when you have losing hand
 
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