Clemson professor looking to get fired...
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Reclamation: Clemson’s Hip Hop professor releases mixtape honoring the forgotten – and conjoined – Godino twins
Clemson University assistant professor Melvin Villaver has released his dissertation — a mixtape — on the forgotten conjoined Godino twins.
news.clemson.edu
he “Performed” the “mixtape” at 2 halftime shows last year
The fascinating case study of these people. Even if you believe it to be true.
You are either willing to reduce your own morality to the same deplorable level that you despise by participating in the same behavior or you simply reside in the same dark place to begin with.
The lack of self awareness at the “intelligent” class is stunning.
You are either willing to reduce your own morality to the same deplorable level that you despise by participating in the same behavior or you simply reside in the same dark place to begin with.
The lack of self awareness at the “intelligent” class is stunning.
If true, not surprised by the left. They’re a despicable bunch of idiots, clowns and truly incapable of critical thinking skills
I've never felt better about leaving DV for a beer at halftime. Thank you.Reclamation: Clemson’s Hip Hop professor releases mixtape honoring the forgotten – and conjoined – Godino twins
Clemson University assistant professor Melvin Villaver has released his dissertation — a mixtape — on the forgotten conjoined Godino twins.news.clemson.edu
he “Performed” the “mixtape” at 2 halftime shows last year
Thanks for the update. I will be writing the presidents office tomorrow.
Every University should have diverse ideas and opinions. However, celebrating death is wrong. Especially from a person in a position of influence
We all will. My son (Junior at Clemson) was in shock about Charlie’s ASSASSINATION saying he didn’t always agree with Charlie’s talk, especially against Catholic’s but he didn’t deserve this where as you see leftists ding dongs celebrating this. SMH
My kid thinks for himself unlike most lefties.
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Does this count as cancel culture? I can't tell the difference if not.
Greenville Co just canned a teacher today for a similar comment
T A&M and MTSU fired faculty members for making fun of Charlie's death. Clemson needs to do the same.
I was at one. TurribleReclamation: Clemson’s Hip Hop professor releases mixtape honoring the forgotten – and conjoined – Godino twins
Clemson University assistant professor Melvin Villaver has released his dissertation — a mixtape — on the forgotten conjoined Godino twins.news.clemson.edu
he “Performed” the “mixtape” at 2 halftime shows last year
Yeah it kinda is.
But this is also a lot different than Shane Gillis losing his SNL job for pronouncing Asian noodles "nooders"
Do you not remember? You must have blocked it out better than I did. I had totally forgotten about it until @CuTigers2020 mentioned it...crazy, I've never had a repressed memory before.
It was hilariously awful. If it had been broadcast on TV, Clemson would have been the butt of every joke ever.
I think his actions/comments are distasteful, but there's certainly some irony in wanting him fired for mocking the death of someone who was very well known for mocking the death of other people.
The deceased person also put out numerous videos elucidating his position that the notion of empathy was weak and useless (I certainly don't agree with that idea, either).
Not classy, but also not as bad as I expected. The worst of all was something he reposted that somebody else tweeted.
I’d put this in the “bad, gross, and unwise, but not really worthy of censure” category. This is also instance of somebody not being aware that they don’t need to post all their stupid thoughts on social media so that they can look interesting online.
I’ll also say the least surprising thing here is that somebody in a “studies” department would put questionable stuff on social media after this. It’s not just that “studies” attracts people of a certain political persuasion, it also encourages this sort of divisive, identitarian thinking that’s more activism than academics. Since they’re only quasi-academic fields, and since they explicitly muddle praxis into theory, these studies fields frequently produce people who think anybody they disagree with has to be erased as backwards counter-revolutionaries.
I’d put this in the “bad, gross, and unwise, but not really worthy of censure” category. This is also instance of somebody not being aware that they don’t need to post all their stupid thoughts on social media so that they can look interesting online.
I’ll also say the least surprising thing here is that somebody in a “studies” department would put questionable stuff on social media after this. It’s not just that “studies” attracts people of a certain political persuasion, it also encourages this sort of divisive, identitarian thinking that’s more activism than academics. Since they’re only quasi-academic fields, and since they explicitly muddle praxis into theory, these studies fields frequently produce people who think anybody they disagree with has to be erased as backwards counter-revolutionaries.
Free speech is a government thing. I run a company…. You say stupid crap and risk the companies reputation and I will fire your ***.….
He's free to say anything he wants. But there can be consequences. A standard of decency isn't a bad thing.
I hope the University fires a professor who celebrates the assassination of a 31 year old, I don't want to be associated with it if does not. Honestly I didn't know who Charlie Kirk was before this week but all this political violence needs to stop and people who publicly celebrate the killings of political figures because you disagree with their views deserve the consequences of loss of jobs etc that comes with that.
The party of assassinating people for speech.
Brother, we've all lived through the same timeline here. Do you not remember this stuff from "the right"? Acting like this stuff is just the work of the left is highly disingenuous.
How do you make these kinds of comments repeatedly with a seemingly straight face when we all have access to the facts?
“Forget it Jake, it’s Chinatown”
It's wild. He makes these statements as if we all don't have a very public record of comments from all of these jokers.
Some of these people just enjoy their time on Earth 2 for whatever reason.
Uh, Clemson is a public entity so this is a government thing. Whether a government entity can regulate such speech depends on several factors (was the employee speaking as a citizen on a matter of public concern rather than in the performance of his or her duties?). If that answer is yes, then there is a balancing test that is applied and I won’t get into the specifics of that. It’s called the Pickering test.
It seems like both of you are very confusedly, and mistakenly, agreeing with each other.
When people criticized cancel culture, what they meant was the attempt to prevent anybody who disagreed with a certain regnant point of view from having any public platform. This was justified based on the idea that certain people hearing differing viewpoints would feel so bad about it that it would create an unsafe environment. Thus, you couldn’t allow somebody who disagreed with “trans” ideology speak in public or post anything on many social media sites, let alone publish something in a mainstream media outlet. And if somebody were to argue that police weren’t indiscriminately killing black people, then it was OK to prevent them from having any public platform not only by trying to prevent them from getting speaking opportunities, but also by shouting them down and rioting to prevent them from being heard. The issue is/was the idea that it was dangerous to allow different viewpoints from being heard, so it was actually virtuous to deplatform everyone you disagreed with.
Further, the problem is/was less that there would ever be any censorship, or that all speech was always appropriate, than that even in venues and media explicitly committed to open debate and deliberation, or in situations that had nothing to do with promoting a certain kind of politics (workplaces, sports, etc), people were being canceled for having the wrong (ie. not progressive) views.
There is/was also an aspect to cancel culture where people were going fishing for potentially objectionable things in someone’s past, and then using them to try to hurt that person. It was way too frequent that somebody would find something somebody said on social media in high school, years ago, when nobody seemed to have been hurt or to have cared, and then use that against somebody. Even though this was more recent, it looks a little more like that.
But I do think you have to make a distinction between being indecent and being ‘wrong.’ People shouldn’t be cancelled for being ‘wrong,’ in nearly all cases. But I don’t think most people have a problem with not giving a platform to an indecent person.
All that said, I do think many of the people who rightly complained about cancel culture a few years ago don’t seem to mind using the same kind of power used against them and people they agreed with. That just probably goes to show that being liberal minded- which is what belief in free speech means- is actually pretty rare.
It’s also probably wise to let your first response to somebody being assassinated be sympathy and grief, rather than trying to score political points. I don’t know why a guy like this professor felt like he had to say this immediately.
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