Forde-Yard Dash: This May Be the End

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"But his program is broken in one of the foundational elements of modern football, the passing game. And it doesn’t matter what changes—coordinators or quarterbacks—nothing is fixing it."
 

Iron Doc

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hawkeyemark18

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Not a fan of Pat Forde whatsoever, but there are going to be more and more of these Captain Obvious type editorials.
You can really feel the media pressure starting to mount. I look at the big picture and you could read between the lines many of the comments made on Saturday during the broadcast and at halftime. People see this Iowa offense as irrelevant.
 

DBHawkSoCal

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I’ve been out of Iowa for more than a decade. No one has ever made much of a passing comment about Hawkeyes (other than the Go Hawks if they see the team logo or name)

The last two weeks I’ve had multiple people at work and out and about comment about “44 passing yards” and “Has Iowa ever beaten anyone good???”

Anecdotal of course but the narrative around Hawkeye football is a bit of a joke.

At least we have CC…
 

hawkeyemark18

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I’ve been out of Iowa for more than a decade. No one has ever made much of a passing comment about Hawkeyes (other than the Go Hawks if they see the team logo or name)

The last two weeks I’ve had multiple people at work and out and about comment about “44 passing yards” and “Has Iowa ever beaten anyone good???”

Anecdotal of course but the narrative around Hawkeye football is a bit of a joke.

At least we have CC…
Great comment. I live in the South in the heart of SEC country. If I still worked I know I would hear about it. People down here take their football seriously including some of the senior women around me 🙂
 

BunchofAholes

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I’ve been out of Iowa for more than a decade. No one has ever made much of a passing comment about Hawkeyes (other than the Go Hawks if they see the team logo or name)

The last two weeks I’ve had multiple people at work and out and about comment about “44 passing yards” and “Has Iowa ever beaten anyone good???”

Anecdotal of course but the narrative around Hawkeye football is a bit of a joke.

At least we have CC…
There's no shortage of these stories. The verbiage I hear up here (Minnesota) and from friends around the country is similar.
 

DukeSlater

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You can really feel the media pressure starting to mount. I look at the big picture and you could read between the lines many of the comments made on Saturday during the broadcast and at halftime. People see this Iowa offense as irrelevant.
People don't just "see this Iowa offense as irrelevant." It IS irrelevant, and it has been for at least six years. It's a problem that KF, for whatever reason, refuses to fix. He can't fix it. He won't fix it. He's had season after season after season to fix it. It's NOT happening under this head coach, so it's pretty clear that, even though Iowa has won a lot of games with its defense, going forward without an offense ain't gonna work.

After 27 years of good, bad, and ugly, it's clearly time for major changes in Iowa City. KF MUST retire or be fired at the end of THIS season. Period.
 

IowaFarmBoy2

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At issue is that things haven’t changed. KF keeps bringing out game managers instead of qbs that are the game. He did not like Stanzi, Banks, Tate and CJ. He almost got him killed. All successes. All were not replaced with similar styles. Now he brings in those that can’t due the job due to injuries.
 

DukeSlater

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There's no shortage of these stories. The verbiage I hear up here (Minnesota) and from friends around the country is similar.
What do you expect? We'd be saying the same thing if it were another school that year after year after year stunk up college football with an offense that would have been suspect in 1923. Iowa's futile attempt to run an offense that includes the forward pass has been a national joke for at least six years. SIX YEARS! This is beyond ridiculous. Iowa has had the worst QB play, worst wide receiver play, and worst offense in the country--save for Kaleb Johnson's running--year after year. When does it end? It won't as long as KF is chewing gum and setting records against Albany and UMass.
 

ClarindaA’s

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Honestly, we started slow and finished with a terrible two minute drill, but we did move the ball. Should have had Jaz in the backfield on the last series, there was enough time to run against weak safeties.
 

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I’ve been out of Iowa for more than a decade. No one has ever made much of a passing comment about Hawkeyes (other than the Go Hawks if they see the team logo or name)

The last two weeks I’ve had multiple people at work and out and about comment about “44 passing yards” and “Has Iowa ever beaten anyone good???”

Anecdotal of course but the narrative around Hawkeye football is a bit of a joke.

At least we have CC…
I assume by your handle that you're near me (Long Beach). Regardless, pretty accurate. Although, it's been several years now where I've heard people talk about the defense being very good and the offense being the polar opposite.
 
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elipse

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Why doesn’t he just want to retire and enjoy his grand children, traveling, etc. Give someone else a chance at coaching. In his press conferences after a defeat he just kind of says “well - they were just better than us - we’ll go back to work - fix some things - get better - be better coaches - rinse repeat.
I’ve said it before he seems like whether they win or lose - it’s just kinda …..MEH. I believe he is really passionate about his players and his coaches - but it’s more about the relationships - then it is winning and losing.
 

SCHawkeye2

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Hayes
Bowden
Paterno
Fry
Shembechler
Bryant

They along with other HoF coaches had their moments of greatness. And the moment it was time to step away.
Some recognized the moment, but some stayed too long.
 

QChawks

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Why doesn’t he just want to retire and enjoy his grand children, traveling, etc. Give someone else a chance at coaching. In his press conferences after a defeat he just kind of says “well - they were just better than us - we’ll go back to work - fix some things - get better - be better coaches - rinse repeat.
I’ve said it before he seems like whether they win or lose - it’s just kinda …..MEH. I believe he is really passionate about his players and his coaches - but it’s more about the relationships - then it is winning and losing.
he's like any untouchable employee; there is zero motivation to change.

I got to this position because 20 years I turned this company around, why do I need to change?

It worked then, why won't it work now.

At this point in my career, I'm going to stick to what I know, not try and adapt to something that I'm not.
 

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he's like any untouchable employee; there is zero motivation to change.

I got to this position because 20 years I turned this company around, why do I need to change?

It worked then, why won't it work now.

At this point in my career, I'm going to stick to what I know, not try and adapt to something that I'm not.
I don’t get how he doesn’t see it himself and say that it is embarrassing to him and the program to have a passing game so bad. He expects perfection out of the defense week in and week out yet the offense gets a pass every freaking week. It’s maddening. I don’t know how Phil Parker isn’t up his butt on every Monday morning saying something in private about the offense and how inept the passing game is.
 

LIV4GOD

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I don’t get how he doesn’t see it himself and say that it is embarrassing to him and the program to have a passing game so bad. He expects perfection out of the defense week in and week out yet the offense gets a pass every freaking week. It’s maddening. I don’t know how Phil Parker isn’t up his butt on every Monday morning saying something in private about the offense and how inept the passing game is.
If we just had an average passing game we would win easily. I wonder if he believes that. He must see it as the greatest area of risk that's not worth it. Like at Ohio State years ago, with about a minute and a half to go, we could go and try to kick the game winning field goal. Nope. We'd have to throw passes. He considered it more likely their defense would score rather than our offense. We lose in OT. Ferentz Fear Factor.
 

eyesofhawk

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What do you expect? We'd be saying the same thing if it were another school that year after year after year stunk up college football with an offense that would have been suspect in 1923. Iowa's futile attempt to run an offense that includes the forward pass has been a national joke for at least six years. SIX YEARS! This is beyond ridiculous. Iowa has had the worst QB play, worst wide receiver play, and worst offense in the country--save for Kaleb Johnson's running--year after year. When does it end? It won't as long as KF is chewing gum and setting records against Albany and UMass.
Anyone who laughs at a winning program has the joke squarely on himself
 

DBHawkSoCal

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Honestly, we started slow and finished with a terrible two minute drill, but we did move the ball. Should have had Jaz in the backfield on the last series, there was enough time to run against weak safeties.
The problem is expecting to execute 400 play drives consistently is really hard to do. In fact that’s exactly what the Iowa defense philosophy preys on…

Iowa had two drives that took them three days to get to the red zone….but their other 8 possessions were a joke.

Somehow this works out against everyone not named OSU, PSU, etc

But it does cost us against the ISU, MSU more than enough to derail seasons
 

Hawk-A-Doodle-Doo

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Kirk Ferentz is infallible. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know anything about football and isn't a true fan. Who cares if we haven't had a 300-yard passer in 6 years. Who cares if we haven't thrown for more than 200 yards against an FBS opponent in almost 2 years. Who cares if we are on a 10-game losing streak against ranked opponents. Who cares that we've been outscored 313 - 88 in those games. Who cares that we just set the all-time record for passing impotency through the first two games of any season. Maybe you aren't aware of this, but we won 10 games two years ago.
 

83Hawk

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The problem is expecting to execute 400 play drives consistently is really hard to do. In fact that’s exactly what the Iowa defense philosophy preys on…

Iowa had two drives that took them three days to get to the red zone….but their other 8 possessions were a joke.

Somehow this works out against everyone not named OSU, PSU, etc

But it does cost us against the ISU, MSU more than enough to derail seasons
I always thought it funny that Kirk expects Iowa’s offense to do exactly what he wants the defense to force the other team’s offense to do: put together a long drive without making a mistake.
 

83Hawk

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Kirk Ferentz is infallible. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know anything about football and isn't a true fan. Who cares if we haven't had a 300-yard passer in 6 years. Who cares if we haven't thrown for more than 200 yards against an FBS opponent in almost 2 years. Who cares if we are on a 10-game losing streak against ranked opponents. Who cares that we've been outscored 313 - 88 in those games. Who cares that we just set the all-time record for passing impotency through the first two games of any season. Maybe you aren't aware of this, but we won 10 games two years ago.
Don’t forget how bad Iowa was 50 years ago! Do you want to return to those days?
 

DuddyB

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Don’t forget how bad Iowa was 50 years ago! Do you want to return to those days?
Scared Asustad GIF
 

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At issue is that things haven’t changed. KF keeps bringing out game managers instead of qbs that are the game. He did not like Stanzi, Banks, Tate and CJ. He almost got him killed. All successes. All were not replaced with similar styles. Now he brings in those that can’t due the job due to injuries.
I’m sorry, but despite plenty to criticize regarding the past few years, this stuff is bunk. For example, Tate follows Banks with Chandler as a transition guy on a 10 win team. I call BS on your claim Kirk didn’t like these guys. If he didn’t they wouldn’t have been starting. And your last statement is false. Gronowski showed on Saturday that he can throw the deep ball. The injury kept him from important spring reps, but isn’t holding him back now.

Hiring Brian as OC and recruiting misses in the past five years are why we’re where we are today.
 
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I’m sorry, but despite plenty to criticize regarding the past few years, this stuff is bunk. For example, Tate follows Banks with Chandler as a transition guy on a 10 win team. I call BS on your claim Kirk didn’t like these guys. If he didn’t they wouldn’t have been starting. And your last statement is false. Gronowski showed on Saturday that he can throw the deep ball. The injury kept him from important spring reps, but isn’t holding him back now.

Hiring Brian as OC and recruiting misses in the past five years are why we’re where we are today.
You were doing ok until you said he showed he could throw the deep ball. He threw 1 pass over 10 yards that I can remember.
 
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I’ve been out of Iowa for more than a decade. No one has ever made much of a passing comment about Hawkeyes (other than the Go Hawks if they see the team logo or name)

The last two weeks I’ve had multiple people at work and out and about comment about “44 passing yards” and “Has Iowa ever beaten anyone good???”

Anecdotal of course but the narrative around Hawkeye football is a bit of a joke.

At least we have CC…

I lived in SoCal the past couple years and just moved back. Guys at work would see me wearing something Iowa and shake their heads saying…..your offense is brutal. Good for me LA area has so much other stuff going on that college football there isn’t followed as closely as in other parts of the country.
 

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I’m sorry, but despite plenty to criticize regarding the past few years, this stuff is bunk. For example, Tate follows Banks with Chandler as a transition guy on a 10 win team. I call BS on your claim Kirk didn’t like these guys. If he didn’t they wouldn’t have been starting. And your last statement is false. Gronowski showed on Saturday that he can throw the deep ball. The injury kept him from important spring reps, but isn’t holding him back now.

Hiring Brian as OC and recruiting misses in the past five years are why we’re where we are today.
You were doing great until the last sentence.

Smh.

What a joke
 
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IowaFarmBoy2

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I’m sorry, but despite plenty to criticize regarding the past few years, this stuff is bunk. For example, Tate follows Banks with Chandler as a transition guy on a 10 win team. I call BS on your claim Kirk didn’t like these guys. If he didn’t they wouldn’t have been starting. And your last statement is false. Gronowski showed on Saturday that he can throw the deep ball. The injury kept him from important spring reps, but isn’t holding him back now.

Hiring Brian as OC and recruiting misses in the past five years are why we’re where we are today.
You are out of touch with reality if you believe that.
 

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You can really feel the media pressure starting to mount. I look at the big picture and you could read between the lines many of the comments made on Saturday during the broadcast and at halftime. People see this Iowa offense as irrelevant.
They weren't being subtle. They basically said Iowa was incapable of throwing a deep pass. They tried it once and got a pass interference penalty for it. Not because our receiver did anything special, the defense was just caught so off guard that's all they could do.