You're Beth Goetz. What do you do?

HoggI74

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ISU was rated 16. Iowa unrated. A 15th rated Michigan went on the road to an 18th rated Oklahoma, with a 12.5 million dollar NIL QB and got their azzes handed to them. The 12.5 million dollar QB went 4 of his last 19 passes. Got half his yardage on one blown coverage play, otherwise he sucked. Stick to dodgeball...
 

Tom Paris

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ISU was rated 16. Iowa unrated. A 15th rated Michigan went on the road to an 18th rated Oklahoma, with a 12.5 million dollar NIL QB and got their azzes handed to them. The 12.5 million dollar QB went 4 of his last 19 passes. Got half his yardage on one blown coverage play, otherwise he sucked. Stick to dodgeball...
Michigan won a national championship 2 years ago. What’s Kirk done in 20 years? Stick to whatever dumb crap you do…
 
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HoggI74

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Those guys must’ve been out for a few years now.
You're right come to think of it. TE Luke Lachey missed most of the season and Erick All the season before that. QBs McNamara and Sullivan were both injured and won games with converted scout team LB Jackson Stratton for Chris sakes...
 
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Tom Paris

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You're right come to think of it. TE Luke Lachey missed most of the season and Erick All the season before that. QBs McNamara and Sullivan were both injured and won games with converted scout team LB Jackson Stratton for Chris sakes...
You’re pretending we don’t have 25 years of data. Christ on a bike.
 
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If the hawks go sub .500 this year I think there’s a good chance Kirk is gonna be very sternly nudged to retire. A second year of sub .500 he will absolutely be fired if he doesn’t hang it up. He’s not as untouchable as some of yall think.
You are joking right? Lets look at the facts, he is under contract through the 2029 season, and if he is fired without cause the buyout is $6 million per years left on the contract. So after this season, that is $24 million, your athletic department does not have that type of money sitting in reserve some place. The donor base still loves the guy, so they are not stepping up to pitch in to buy him out.
He said earlier this year that his health is good and he still loves what he is doing, he is also stubborn, so he is not walking away even if the loses start to pile up.
 
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If/when KF retires, iowa better hire an African American to be the next Moon Family Head Football Coach. If they hire a caucasian, iowa will lose most of its decent recruits and will be back to the ‘61-‘70 hawkeyes.
 
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kwik44

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You are joking right? Lets look at the facts, he is under contract through the 2029 season, and if he is fired without cause the buyout is $6 million per years left on the contract. So after this season, that is $24 million, your athletic department does not have that type of money sitting in reserve some place. The donor base still loves the guy, so they are not stepping up to pitch in to buy him out.
He said earlier this year that his health is good and he still loves what he is doing, he is also stubborn, so he is not walking away even if the loses start to pile up.
You’re nervous just like when Iowa landed McCollum. It’s ok to be nervous. Iowa’s next head football coach will be on the money.
 
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You’re nervous just like when Iowa landed McCollum. It’s ok to be nervous. Iowa’s next head football coach will be on the money.
Not at all TJ has more than proven himself and upgraded the program. It will be interesting to see how all those former players from Drake and NWMS handle the size and strength of now playing in the B10.
 

hawkeyemark18

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Wallace only knows what he's seen Kirk do, And that is having a god awful offense.
The offense looked way more attacking the one game Wallace coached last season. Way younger and you could tell he has a different mindset. I too think we look outside the program. Wallace seems a good candidate for defensive coordinator on a new staff.
 
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Buffhawk

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Our AD is in a tough spot. Forcing out a guy like KFz would be controversial.Talking him into retirement would take some mastery. Letting him stick around as long as he wants could inflict some (further) damage on the football program.

What should her strategy be? What do you think it will be?

Unless the wheels fall off (4 wins or less) I can't see her dismissing him, esp with that buyout.
Really cannot believe she would force him out. But if she believes there needs to be a change, she will elect not to offer any sort of contract extension and let him ride into the sunset when his contract expires. No shame for her if for Kirk. What else does he really need to prove?
 

Wobmam Rulez!

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Fran got pushed out because people stopped coming to games. Kirk isn't going anywhere as long as 60k+ keep showing up at Kinnick. The fan base has created this perpetual

I think we are going to have to figure out how to throw for 100 yards or more before we start talking about 9-3 or 10-2. Right now it feels like I have a better shot at hooking up with Sydney Sweeney than watching the hawks go 10-2 this year.
Please tell me your secret!
 

uihawk82

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Our AD is in a tough spot. Forcing out a guy like KFz would be controversial.Talking him into retirement would take some mastery. Letting him stick around as long as he wants could inflict some (further) damage on the football program.

What should her strategy be? What do you think it will be?

Unless the wheels fall off (4 wins or less) I can't see her dismissing him, esp with that buyout.
Kirk might be one of those coaches who thinks he will soon die if he retires. I hope not as he has the money to visit all his kids and grandkids, and do it all the time. Hell he can rent Netjets to fly him around in style.

I think Beth is very cognizant of the very good teams Iowa has had under Fry and Kirk and the great overall history of the program. I think a couple of bad years back to back with his age that she will pull the trigger.

And change is good.
 
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Anon1756608351

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Puppet??? Is that why she fired his son?

She pushed Fran out, so she knows how to handle her business.
She is absolutely worthless. I say bring the National Guard to Iowa City, and let them get this problem under control. College football is war and neither Beth, nor Kirk, know how to deal with it.
 
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MeetTheFerentzes

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You are joking right? Lets look at the facts, he is under contract through the 2029 season, and if he is fired without cause the buyout is $6 million per years left on the contract. So after this season, that is $24 million, your athletic department does not have that type of money sitting in reserve some place. The donor base still loves the guy, so they are not stepping up to pitch in to buy him out.
He said earlier this year that his health is good and he still loves what he is doing, he is also stubborn, so he is not walking away even if the loses start to pile up.
Awww! Someone thinks he knows the ins and outs of the Iowa Athletic Department finances and what they can and can’t do, and also has the donor base figured out. That’s cute.
 

Jonesy5960

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Our AD is in a tough spot. Forcing out a guy like KFz would be controversial.Talking him into retirement would take some mastery. Letting him stick around as long as he wants could inflict some (further) damage on the football program.

What should her strategy be? What do you think it will be?

Unless the wheels fall off (4 wins or less) I can't see her dismissing him, esp with that buyout.
Fire the OC?

Oh wait. Did that already.

I got nothin'.
 

Jonesy5960

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This season is what it is.

Next off-season is where it gets interesting. Kirk won't get an extension unless he makes the Big Ten championship game or the playoff this year. Kirk will have four years left on his contract, and she sends a message that there's no extension coming.

2026 is realistically his last potential season because he's not going to be able to recruit with less than four years under contract.

So he'll have to decide if he wants one more year (2026), or does he pull a late spring retirement as a favor to Wallace, to give him tryout as interim head coach for 2026.

I think he pulls a late spring retirement in 2026, and I think Beth humors him with the 2026 Wallace as interim plan.

For 2025, Beth keeps her short list in the desk drawer unless Kirk unexpectedly announces his retirement after the Nebraska game.

If there is an extension, which I doubt but for recruiting reasons, it will contain no buyout of significance, allowing the university to be unshackled by the financial constraints of the previous agreement.
 

Jonesy5960

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ISU was rated 16. Iowa unrated. A 15th rated Michigan went on the road to an 18th rated Oklahoma, with a 12.5 million dollar NIL QB and got their azzes handed to them. The 12.5 million dollar QB went 4 of his last 19 passes. Got half his yardage on one blown coverage play, otherwise he sucked. Stick to dodgeball...
I'm sorry. Is there an agreement somewhere that we are unaware of that dictates that the Iowa QB and offense is somehow capped by the performance of the Michigan QB and offense? If so your comment was on point.
 

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The offense looked way more attacking the one game Wallace coached last season. Way younger and you could tell he has a different mindset. I too think we look outside the program. Wallace seems a good candidate for defensive coordinator on a new staff.
A new HC is going to bring his own DC. Unlikely Wallace would stick around.
 
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Awww! Someone thinks he knows the ins and outs of the Iowa Athletic Department finances and what they can and can’t do, and also has the donor base figured out. That’s cute.
Show me where I was wrong, on any of what I stated, on the contract it's from the CR paper, on the donor base, they love him? Did he not say he was healthy and still loves coaching, So what did I miss here, when the truth is laid out and in front of you and you don't like it, that does not change the fact that its the truth.
 
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OnlyTheObscure

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Schools with pockets deeper than Iowa are realizing they can pay the players or buyout the coach but maybe not both.

I think coaching contracts might get shorter. College is becoming more like NFL. The talent on the field means more than the coach. Long term= money rolling in, not coaching stability.
 
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BunchofAholes

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If there is an extension, which I doubt but for recruiting reasons, it will contain no buyout of significance, allowing the university to be unshackled by the financial constraints of the previous agreement.
This may be the move. Add a year for recruiting purposes but no buyout on that year.
 

IowaCityLit

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You are joking right? Lets look at the facts, he is under contract through the 2029 season, and if he is fired without cause the buyout is $6 million per years left on the contract. So after this season, that is $24 million, your athletic department does not have that type of money sitting in reserve some place. The donor base still loves the guy, so they are not stepping up to pitch in to buy him out.
He said earlier this year that his health is good and he still loves what he is doing, he is also stubborn, so he is not walking away even if the loses start to pile up.
This is total fabrication. Or maybe wishful thinking.,
 
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joelbc1

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Its not the lost. It's the fact that we can't pass the football which has been an issue for several years. When we get down by 10 points it feels like 40. We throw money at the problem and the problem continues. The one constant factor is that Kirk does not know how to fix this. Kirk hires the offensive coordinator's. Not sure what qualifies Kirk to hire these guys when he is inept at offense. Kirk needs to be held accountable.
205 wins … that is “accountability”.. like it or not.
it’s a tired argument. I promise you there will come a time when Iowa fan might well be pining for the days of KF. Burns, Nagel, Lauterber and Commings. It can happen again.
 

Hawk48

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205 wins … that is “accountability”.. like it or not.
it’s a tired argument. I promise you there will come a time when Iowa fan might well be pining for the days of KF. Burns, Nagel, Lauterber and Commings. It can happen again.
whatever, no guts no glory
 

MeetTheFerentzes

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Show me where I was wrong, on any of what I stated, on the contract it's from the CR paper, on the donor base, they love him? Did he not say he was healthy and still loves coaching, So what did I miss here, when the truth is laid out and in front of you and you don't like it, that does not change the fact that its the truth.
You have no clue about anything regarding the Iowa Athletic Department finances/budget and if they have the means to come up with $ for a buyout if necessary, and you have even less of a clue about the mindset of any boosters. But like I said, it's cute that you think you do. You sound like you're trying to convince yourself more than you are anyone else.
 
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You have no clue about anything regarding the Iowa Athletic Department finances/budget and if they have the means to come up with $ for a buyout if necessary, and you have even less of a clue about the mindset of any boosters. But like I said, it's cute that you think you do. You sound like you're trying to convince yourself more than you are anyone else.
Since you are so informed then educate us, but you can't so you want to get cute about it. You sound like a moron, but we all knew that. You can find the link that shows your coaches buyout, its public record, just like the fact that you guy currently owe over $230 million in future debt. The BOR wants to know when you are going to start paying back the loan from the university more than the minimum payments, again was in the news. What have you seen with your coach that leaves that he would be willing to take a cut and retire? The fact he put his son in a position that he was highly unqualified for, that he put his son in law also on the staff, that after saying he would take a reduced salary during covid he was the only coach that took full salary. The fact that while your athletic department is bringing in a lot of money, you are spending it as fast as it comes in and have few reserves, it was the reason you had to get a loan from the university.
But since you know all the answers, you refuse to post them, because you know what the public record is, and attack anyone that points it out.
 
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MeetTheFerentzes

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Since you are so informed then educate us, but you can't so you want to get cute about it. You sound like a moron, but we all knew that. You can find the link that shows your coaches buyout, its public record, just like the fact that you guy currently owe over $230 million in future debt. The BOR wants to know when you are going to start paying back the loan from the university more than the minimum payments, again was in the news. What have you seen with your coach that leaves that he would be willing to take a cut and retire? The fact he put his son in a position that he was highly unqualified for, that he put his son in law also on the staff, that after saying he would take a reduced salary during covid he was the only coach that took full salary. The fact that while your athletic department is bringing in a lot of money, you are spending it as fast as it comes in and have few reserves, it was the reason you had to get a loan from the university.
But since you know all the answers, you refuse to post them, because you know what the public record is, and attack anyone that points it out.
I never claimed to have any answers. You came over to a rival board and acted like a know-it-all. That's the joke - you. Thanks.