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QuaoarsKing

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If we fire Lebby after the 2025 season, we'll probably have to overpay for a coach with no other SEC head coach opportunities. We're better off sticking with Lebby.
Depends on whether he sucks or not. Hopefully we go to a bowl this year and make this question moot.

If we're 2-10 again, we have no choice but to fire him. Remember that college football coaches almost all have big egos and think they win more than others. Some G5 coach will jump at the chance to take our job.
 
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Called3rdstrikedawg

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If we don't pay $7.5 to $8.5 million we ain't getting a good coach period. If Lebby follows 2-10 with 2-10 or 3-9, we cannot AFFORD to keep him. It's a new day in college football. With complete roster changes every two years now due to NIL and the Portal, nobody can afford to give a guy 3 years if the first two are utter failures! 4 wins would be bad but probably give him another year. 3 wins or less and you cannot wait to see if he gets to 4 wins in 3 years! There IS no rebuilding in this new Era (or Error if you prefer) of college football!
 

QuaoarsKing

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If we don't pay $7.5 to $8.5 million we ain't getting a good coach period. If Lebby follows 2-10 with 2-10 or 3-9, we cannot AFFORD to keep him. It's a new day in college football. With complete roster changes every two years now due to NIL and the Portal, nobody can afford to give a guy 3 years if the first two are utter failures! 4 wins would be bad but probably give him another year. 3 wins or less and you cannot wait to see if he gets to 4 wins in 3 years! There IS no rebuilding in this new Era (or Error if you prefer) of college football!
Exactly. If Lebby can't win this year, why would we expect him to win in a future year? Either he can flip a roster in one offseason using the portal or he can't.

I could see a scenario where we look a lot more competitive this year at 5-7 and convince ourselves that he can win more with Kamario (assuming we lock him down) and give him one more chance to get to a bowl, but at 2-10 we HAVE to fire him.
 

greenbean.sixpack

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Lebby would have to leave on his own accord. We can’t fire a coach after two years or less for the third time in six years.
if he wins 2, then he has to be fired. If he wins 3, there will be a decision to make, win 4 or more and he's safe.
 

patdog

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if he wins 2, then he has to be fired. If he wins 3, there will be a decision to make, win 4 or more and he's safe.
If he wins 3 & we dint fire him we’re not serious about competing in college football. And I’m not convinced we are.
 

greenbean.sixpack

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If he wins 3 & we dint fire him we’re not serious about competing in college football. And I’m not convinced we are.
Concur.

If we beat the three non cons and keep it close with ASU, Ark, Missouri and a couple of other conference games, I would be surprised if we fire him though.
 
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Called3rdstrikedawg

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If he wins 3 & we dint fire him we’re not serious about competing in college football. And I’m not convinced we are.
We proved we weren't serious about football when our Prez.wouldnt hire an AD before promoting another Damn Coordinator, and followed it up by hiring another coordinator.
 
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Howiefeltersnstch

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I say we fire him if we miss the bowl game. Hire another coach and if he doesn't get us to.a bowl game fire him. Hire another coach and if he doesn't get us to a bowl game fire him. Continue on. That proves we are serious
 

anon1758050382

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I say we fire him if we miss the bowl game. Hire another coach and if he doesn't get us to.a bowl game fire him. Hire another coach and if he doesn't get us to a bowl game fire him. Continue on. That proves we are serious
I think we should fire Lebby today, hire someone else tomorrow, and then fire that guy the day after that. It doesn’t get more serious than that.
 

TheBannerM

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Every time we find ourselves needing a new coach, the casuals say "good coaches will crawl over broken glass to take an SEC job." And every time we have multiple coaches who tell us no thanks.
 

anon1787432961

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I think we should fire Lebby today, hire someone else tomorrow, and then fire that guy the day after that. It doesn’t get more serious than that.
I say line em up outside the door and fire them each hour if that is what it takes. Who cares that we have to pay them for 4 years after we fire them. We need to let them know we are SERIOUS
 

cadawg26

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That would be a terrible hire. He was mediocre at the NFL level. Even if he was good, how do we know he could succeed at the college level?
 
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Baddog11

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I don’t think you have to stick with somebody that’s losing. You’re paying him good money to win games. IF you have already identified that this isn’t going to work out.

The majority have spoken and it’s not even close. MSU fans want unlv’s head coach. And the rumor is Dak would be willing to pay the money to make it happen.
 

Perd Hapley

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Perhaps the discussion should be more centered around whether there is any evidence for Gruden to be more qualified than Lebby in this current environment than whether Lebby can be fired (he can).

My answer is a resounding “no”. He’s freaking 61 years old, has tons of PR / ethics baggage, has never had an on-field role even as a position coach at the P5 level, and has been out if the college game entirely since 1989.

Hard, hard pass….regardless of what happens with Lebby.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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I think Gruden would pick any of the other 16 SEC schools (I'm counting Vandy twice just for effect) at half the salary we'd pay him before he'd coach for us.
 

L4Dawg

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Every time we find ourselves needing a new coach, the casuals say "good coaches will crawl over broken glass to take an SEC job." And every time we have multiple coaches who tell us no thanks.
People never learn.
 

patdog

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Every time we find ourselves needing a new coach, the casuals say "good coaches will crawl over broken glass to take an SEC job." And every time we have multiple coaches who tell us no thanks.
Somewhere between "good coaches will crawl over broken glass to take an SEC job" and settling on a bad coach with an unimpressive resume is the truth here. We can hire good coaches here. We've done it before several times. We just have to not be lazy and stupid, and it always helps to have a little luck. But sticking with a coach who clearly isn't working is never the right answer.
 

thatsbaseball

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The only thing I learned from this article is that they don't do random drug testing on their "writers" at Saturday Down South .
 
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