Clown U facing a $147 million budget deficit through 2031; will postpone Hilton Coliseum renovation & construction of new Wrestling Practice Facility

[somewhereiniowa]

So you're telling me resources matter? That a coach might leave Ames for a place with actual funding, facilities, and a national spotlight? Say it ain’t so!

And now Matt Campbell? Oh no, he’s different, right? He’s loyal. He’s one of you. Until, of course, someone offers him real money, a real fanbase, and the kind of institutional support that doesn’t involve booster bake sales and wishful thinking.

Sanderson didn’t betray ISU. He just outgrew the sandbox. And Campbell? He’s just waiting for recess to end.

Campbell has enough resources to compete in the B12, not win a national title. Sanderson was going for title. Too totally different situations, and if Campbell was unhappy, he would not have just signed the extension that the details were released this week.
Do you really believe that if ISU could have come up with the money that Sanderson wanted he would have left? That is silly, everything he has said before and after leaving was nothing but praise for his time at ISU. The money was just not there to take the program to the level that he wanted to go, and Penn St. had the money, and he could corner the recruiting in that part of the country, which he has done. How many titles have you won since he took the job?

 

[paednoch23]

Campbell has enough resources to compete in the B12, not win a national title. Sanderson was going for title. Too totally different situations, and if Campbell was unhappy, he would not have just signed the extension that the details were released this week.
Do you really believe that if ISU could have come up with the money that Sanderson wanted he would have left? That is silly, everything he has said before and after leaving was nothing but praise for his time at ISU. The money was just not there to take the program to the level that he wanted to go, and Penn St. had the money, and he could corner the recruiting in that part of the country, which he has done. How many titles have you won since he took the job?

Exactly—Penn State had the money because of its conference. Big Ten affiliation means TV money, real resources, and national exposure. ISU? Well, enjoy your slice of that Big 12 streaming deal on PlutoTV.

And let’s be honest: unless ISU finds a sugar daddy or a miracle, wrestling there is either getting quietly axed or slowly left to fade into irrelevance. At some point, even nostalgia can’t cover budget shortfalls.
How many title? One. Its almost like you need a proxy team to talk trash. Thats pathetic. You do realize that I has been almost 40 years since clown wrestling has won a team title.

 

[paednoch23]

Campbell has enough resources to compete in the B12, not win a national title. Sanderson was going for title. Too totally different situations, and if Campbell was unhappy, he would not have just signed the extension that the details were released this week.
Do you really believe that if ISU could have come up with the money that Sanderson wanted he would have left? That is silly, everything he has said before and after leaving was nothing but praise for his time at ISU. The money was just not there to take the program to the level that he wanted to go, and Penn St. had the money, and he could corner the recruiting in that part of the country, which he has done. How many titles have you won since he took the job?

Competing in the Big 12. That's all that really needs to be said. The BIG 12. A joke of a conference.

 

[rchawk]

Exactly—Penn State had the money because of its conference. Big Ten affiliation means TV money, real resources, and national exposure. ISU? Well, enjoy your slice of that Big 12 streaming deal on PlutoTV.

And let’s be honest: unless ISU finds a sugar daddy or a miracle, wrestling there is either getting quietly axed or slowly left to fade into irrelevance. At some point, even nostalgia can’t cover budget shortfalls.
How many title? One. Its almost like you need a proxy team to talk trash. Thats pathetic. You do realize that I has been almost 40 years since clown wrestling has won a team title.

I would hate to see the clowns cut wrestling. I know they cut baseball, the national pastime, but Iowa is a wrestling state. I had the highest respect for Dr. Harold Nichols (he was mentioned on David Letterman's show). UNI wrestling is always among the best in the land. The small colleges in Iowa even rock.

No matter how bad things get for clown athletics paying the bills, I just don't see them cutting wrestling. And they can't cut any more sports and meet the NCAA minimum.

 

[paednoch23]

I would hate to see the clowns cut wrestling. I know they cut baseball, the national pastime, but Iowa is a wrestling state. I had the highest respect for Dr. Harold Nichols (he was mentioned on David Letterman's show). UNI wrestling is always among the best in the land. The small colleges in Iowa even rock.

No matter how bad things get for clown athletics paying the bills, I just don't see them cutting wrestling. And they can't cut any more sports and meet the NCAA minimum.

I hope they do. UNI is better than them. Iowa is 1 Jordan Burroughs away from a Giant. The Clowns are of no benefit to the flagship schools sports. Now that they are AAU flunkies they do nothing for research. The ground water in our state is polluted and thst jackrope farm college hasnt helped solve the problem. Being an AG college they are likely behind the issue.

 

[BunchofAholes]

ISU has never lost to UNI while being ranked.

Well, that's because first ISU would have to be ranked, so. Obviously you're referring to #1 FCS NDSU upsetting #13 Iowa in 2016. A big upset no doubt, but NDSU was no slouch.

Thanks for the reminder though. ISU has lost 4 times, not 3...to FCS teams in the last 20 years. That's #1 in the FBS. Congratulations.

 

[rchawk]

Now that they are AAU flunkies they do nothing for research. The ground water in our state is polluted and thst jackrope farm college hasnt helped solve the problem. Being an AG college they are likely behind the issue.

Cancer diogneses yeah Iowa sucks. Second behind Kentucky. Something is going seriously wrong and it may well be related to agricultural operations.

I say this as the son of a good man who made his living in agribusiness. Fed and clothed me, said some wise things and some nonsensical. Loved the Hawkeyes.

But I digress. If our water or crops are killing lots of people we need to correct that. The corps, yep, big lawsuits! Deserved I think. When your f-ups kill people you should be held accountable.

 

[rchawk]

Thanks for the reminder though. ISU has lost 4 times, not 3...to FCS teams in the last 20 years. That's #1 in the FBS. Congratulations.

Great point, you are right. Have you ever moved to a new place and had a helluva time finding a good pizza delivery place? I don't want to stoop to Domino's or (shudder) Pizza Hut.

 

[rchawk]

Coincidental years (1912) aside, clown football is less RMS Titanic and more SS Minnow.

 

[hahkize]

I would hate to see the clowns cut wrestling. I know they cut baseball, the national pastime, but Iowa is a wrestling state. I had the highest respect for Dr. Harold Nichols (he was mentioned on David Letterman's show). UNI wrestling is always among the best in the land. The small colleges in Iowa even rock.

No matter how bad things get for clown athletics paying the bills, I just don't see them cutting wrestling. And they can't cut any more sports and meet the NCAA minimum.

Don't think they had any plans to diminish wrestling. On the contrary, they were in the beginning stages of a $20M 'practice' facility. Pollard was/is trying to build the ISC brand and get the band, wrestling (ISU was a national power in wrestling 50 years ago) back together.

 

[Blackleaf40]

iowa has had several close calls to lesser teams than Ark State, so who knows is right…

13-10 was a close call to a lesser team

 

[rchawk]

13-10 was a close call to a lesser team

Yeah, that was embarrassing.

 

[hahkize]

But the North division...

Sanderson left for one simple reason, ISU could not and will never be able to provide the resources to wrestling that a school like Penn. State can and does. The money was just not there and never was going to be. But that did not stop a lot of Squawk fans from cheering and ripping on ISU for not retaining him. How has that worked out, at ISU Sanderson was always going to struggle without the resources he needed, now at Penn St, he has kicked your *** on a yearly basis.

Maybe ...

Let's start w/ Sanderson: YOU have made the point that several posters have made w/ you that even Pollard, who you're bending a knee to, recognizes!!! "ISU could not and will never be able to provide the resources to wrestling that a school like Penn. State can and does. The money was just not there and never was going to be. But ...How has that worked out, at ISU Sanderson was always going to struggle without the resources he needed..." (Note* - Tho Pollard HAD allocated $20M for a wrestling 'Practice' facillity)

BUT.. there's this from ISU's own website:
Sanderson led the Cyclone grapplers to an NCAA runner-up finish in his first year at the helm and guided the Iowa State squad to three consecutive Big 12 Conference championships. ISU didn't finish outside of the top five at the NCAA Championships under Sanderson's direction. Sanderson's 2007–08 squad garnered seven All-Americans at the NCAA Championships in St. Louis, which was Iowa State's largest All-American count since seven earned honors in the 1992–93 season. In total, Cyclone wrestlers notched 15 All-America honors in his tenure. Cael Sanderson accepted the head coaching position at Penn State in April 2009.

During his three years at Iowa State, Sanderson went 44–10 including three B12 championships.

Doesn't sound like he wasn't able to be in the hunt for 'titles'. Maybe Sanderson left b/c ISC was going to start putting more emphasis on FB and MBB and less on wrestling. Sanderson was a legacy at ISU and had them in the hunt for their first NCAA 'title' since 1987, but he left b/c he and his program were going to start getting the shaft and less $$$. Smart

Oh, and ISC hasn't kicked Iowa's *** in wrestling since 2004

 

[hahkize]

But the B12North division won the title four times while it was around and the B10 West never crowed a champion. It (B12) also had 4 different teams representing the division during that run, while the opponent was OU or UT every year but two, when aTm made it. The B10 took the three best programs and placed them in the same division, the big 12 North division team was ranked higher 5 times out of the 12 going into the game. The division had a couple very poor years, but you act like it was every year.

Sanderson left for one simple reason, ISU could not and will never be able to provide the resources ...

Maybe your should ..

Your continued attempts to misconstrue facts to make ISC's situation seem better is well....

Let's start here: Link: Wiki List of Big 12 Conference football standings
'B12North division won the title four times while it was around' - Neb ('97 rank 2nd & '99 r 3rd), Colo ('01 rank 9th) and KSU ('03 rank 13)
B12 had N/S divisions from '96 to '10 when Tex, aTm, Tex Tech and Baylor were added from the SWC and until Neb and Colo left after 2010. Neb was good at the end of Osborne's career and Colo had just won a Nat'l Champ in '90.

'It (B12) also had 4 different teams representing the division during that run' - Neb (6x), Colo (4x) who left after 2010 and Mizzou (2x) who left after 2011. Three teams from the B12n accounted for 12 of the 15 seasons (KSU the other 3 when Snyder, who was the OC at Iowa for much of Fry's tenure, had KState cookin'.

'the big 12 North division team was ranked higher 5 times out of the 12 15 going into the game' - '96, '97, '98, '99 and '07 ( Neb, Neb, KS, Neb, Mizzou). The first four games of the division setup from 3 teams, 2 of which are GONE.

'The division had a couple very poor years, but you act like it was every year' - Yep, the LAST 7 years and 8 of the last 9, were won by OUT (OU 6x) from the b12s!
How did ISC do during those 15 years? One winning campaign out of 15. 1/15
'96 1-7 last
'97 1-7 last
'98 1-7 last
'99 1-7 tied for last
'00 5-3 3rd
'01 4-4 3rd (.500 gets 3rd in b12n?)
'02 4-4 3rd (see above)
'03 0-8 last
'04 4-4 tied for 1st ?!?! w/ Colo and UT
'05 4-4 tied for 2nd (3-way out of 6 teams)
'06 1-7 last
'07 2-6 last
'08 0-8 last
'09 3-5 4th
'10 3-5 tied for 3rd (see above)

'the B10 West never crowed a champion' - The B10 first went to divisions in 2011 w/ the addition of Nebraska (12th team). The Divisions were Legends and Leaders. OSU, PSU and Wis in the Leaders. Mich, Mich St and Neb in the Legends. Wisc (ranked #10) beat Mich St (rank 11) in the 1st B10 Champ game in. (no OSU or Mich or PSU). Wis (#3 OSU and PSU were ineligible) defeated Neb (#25) in '12 and MSU (#3) beat OSU in '13. Divisions were split somewhat evenly and no OSU, Mich, PSU domination.

In 2014 Rutgers and Maryland were added to the B10 and divisions went to E / W for geographical purposes like the b12n/s.

The East/West lasted for 10 years. During those 9 years (not considering Covid '20) the West was won by Wisc (4x - 1 tie), Iowa (3x), NW (1x - also '20), Purdue (1x) and Minnesota (1 tie). 4 different programs claimed B10 championsips during that time : OSU (7x - 4 were shared), Mich (4x - 2 shared), PSU & MSU (1x - shared) each. I fully expect Iowa to be in contention for CFP spots in the years going forward as there will be multiple from the Big10 (Edit to add: Link: Wiki List of Big 10 Conference football standings )

 

[Franisdaman]

 

[somewhereiniowa]

Your continued attempts to misconstrue facts to make ISC's situation seem better is well....

Let's start here: Link: Wiki List of Big 12 Conference football standings
'B12North division won the title four times while it was around' - Neb ('97 rank 2nd & '99 r 3rd), Colo ('01 rank 9th) and KSU ('03 rank 13)
B12 had N/S divisions from '96 to '10 when Tex, aTm, Tex Tech and Baylor were added from the SWC and until Neb and Colo left after 2010. Neb was good at the end of Osborne's career and Colo had just won a Nat'l Champ in '90.

'It (B12) also had 4 different teams representing the division during that run' - Neb (6x), Colo (4x) who left after 2010 and Mizzou (2x) who left after 2011. Three teams from the B12n accounted for 12 of the 15 seasons (KSU the other 3 when Snyder, who was the OC at Iowa for much of Fry's tenure, had KState cookin'.

'the big 12 North division team was ranked higher 5 times out of the 12 15 going into the game' - '96, '97, '98, '99 and '07 ( Neb, Neb, KS, Neb, Mizzou). The first four games of the division setup from 3 teams, 2 of which are GONE.

'The division had a couple very poor years, but you act like it was every year' - Yep, the LAST 7 years and 8 of the last 9, were won by OUT (OU 6x) from the b12s!
How did ISC do during those 15 years? One winning campaign out of 15. 1/15
'96 1-7 last
'97 1-7 last
'98 1-7 last
'99 1-7 tied for last
'00 5-3 3rd
'01 4-4 3rd (.500 gets 3rd in b12n?)
'02 4-4 3rd (see above)
'03 0-8 last
'04 4-4 tied for 1st ?!?! w/ Colo and UT
'05 4-4 tied for 2nd (3-way out of 6 teams)
'06 1-7 last
'07 2-6 last
'08 0-8 last
'09 3-5 4th
'10 3-5 tied for 3rd (see above)

'the B10 West never crowed a champion' - The B10 first went to divisions in 2011 w/ the addition of Nebraska (12th team). The Divisions were Legends and Leaders. OSU, PSU and Wis in the Leaders. Mich, Mich St and Neb in the Legends. Wisc (ranked #10) beat Mich St (rank 11) in the 1st B10 Champ game in. (no OSU or Mich or PSU). Wis (#3 OSU and PSU were ineligible) defeated Neb (#25) in '12 and MSU (#3) beat OSU in '13. Divisions were split somewhat evenly and no OSU, Mich, PSU domination.

In 2014 Rutgers and Maryland were added to the B10 and divisions went to E / W for geographical purposes like the b12n/s.

The East/West lasted for 10 years. During those 9 years (not considering Covid '20) the West was won by Wisc (4x - 1 tie), Iowa (3x), NW (1x - also '20), Purdue (1x) and Minnesota (1 tie). 4 different programs claimed B10 championsips during that time : OSU (7x - 4 were shared), Mich (4x - 2 shared), PSU & MSU (1x - shared) each. I fully expect Iowa to be in contention for CFP spots in the years going forward as there will be multiple from the Big10 (Edit to add: Link: Wiki List of Big 10 Conference football standings )

Again you are comparing the leaders and legends time when the western division had both Michigan and MSU, as members, that was not the B10 west, after Rutgers and Maryland became members of the conference. How many titles did the B10 West division win? How many games were actually competitive games? We know that answers, the B10 west division was horrible, and the teams records that came from it, were greatly inflated by playing in that division.

 

[hahkize]

Again you are comparing the leaders and legends time when the western division had both Michigan and MSU, as members, that was not the B10 west, after Rutgers and Maryland became members of the conference. How many titles did the B10 West division win? How many games were actually competitive games? We know that answers, the B10 west division was horrible, and the teams records that came from it, were greatly inflated by playing in that division.

You're on top of it Ace! Big 10's first divisions when Neb left the nB12 for the B10 and Colo left for the Pac were split to get a balance of ability. But..just like when the B12 went N/S for geographical adds from the SWC, the Big 10 went E/W for adds of Rutgers/Maryland.

You didn't read my post very well or refused to acknowledge my mention of those. I also mentioned the b12N was ONLY competitive when NEB and COLO were in the league. They leave the n the b12n goes soft. Really soft. And ISC during that time? Look below

How did iowa state do during those 15 years? One winning campaign out of 15. 1/15. You tied for 1st ONE year w/ a 4-4 record. Would that be considered SOFT? I think so, and you didn't have OUT or aTm in your division any year.
'96 1-7 last
'97 1-7 last
'98 1-7 last
'99 1-7 tied for last
'00 5-3 3rd
'01 4-4 3rd (.500 gets 3rd in b12n?)
'02 4-4 3rd (see above)
'03 0-8 last
'04 4-4 tied for 1st ?!?! w/ Colo and UT
'05 4-4 tied for 2nd (3-way out of 6 teams)
'06 1-7 last
'07 2-6 last
'08 0-8 last
'09 3-5 4th
'10 3-5 tied for 3rd (see above)

How did Iowa do during 13 years of divisions? 9 winning seasons out of 13 w/ two .500; 2/13 losing years compared to 8/15 for ISC
The West alone had Top-25 ranked teams 9/10 years; and Top-10 ranked teams 5/13 years

Legends/Leaders
'11 4-4 4th (MSU # 11; Mich #12; Neb #24) from same division as Iowa
'12 2-6 tie for last (NW #17; Mich #24; Neb #25 ) from same division
'13 5-3 tie for 2nd (MSU #3 and B10 Champions) same division

East/West
'14 4-4 4th (Wisc #13) same division
'15 8-0 1st w/ #9 rank (Wis #21; NW #23) same division
'16 6-3 Tie 2nd (Wis #9) same
'17 4-5 Tie 3rd (Wisc #7; NW #17) same
'18 5-4 3-way tie for 2nd w/ #25 rank (NW # 21) same
'19 6-3 3rd w/ #15 rank (Minn #10; Wis #11) same
'20 6-2 2nd w/ #16 rank (NW #10) same
'21 7-2 1st w/ #23 rank
'22 5-4 3-way tie 2nd
'23 7-2 1st w/ #24 rank

 

[EbbyCalvin]

Again you are comparing the leaders and legends time when the western division had both Michigan and MSU, as members, that was not the B10 west, after Rutgers and Maryland became members of the conference. How many titles did the B10 West division win? How many games were actually competitive games? We know that answers, the B10 west division was horrible, and the teams records that came from it, were greatly inflated by playing in that division.

What exactly is the point of your posts in this thread?

 

[paednoch23]

What exactly is the point of your posts in this thread?

Relevance. He’s seeking relevance. He’s Chasing Relevance Like a Dog Chasing a Parked Car.

 

[somewhereiniowa]

Relevance. He’s seeking relevance. He’s Chasing Relevance Like a Dog Chasing a Parked Car.

Trying to challenge the myth that presets here that ISU is going broke, while EIU will flourish once they move to this new super conference. How has getting rid of divisions helped you? How did Sanderson leaving ISU help you? In both cases you were worse off than before, EIU has $100 million dollars of debt more than ISU, looking at their numbers they are spending it as fast as it comes in, and you also have cut back on projects in your athletics like baseball and others. It's just not ISU.

 

[paednoch23]

Trying to challenge the myth that presets here that ISU is going broke, while EIU will flourish once they move to this new super conference. How has getting rid of divisions helped you? How did Sanderson leaving ISU help you? In both cases you were worse off than before, EIU has $100 million dollars of debt more than ISU, looking at their numbers they are spending it as fast as it comes in, and you also have cut back on projects in your athletics like baseball and others. It's just not ISU.

"You have to cut back in your athletics like baseball and others" Making stuff up is a lie isnt it?

So, let’s reframe it: your constant trying to convince us that ISU isn’t failing is basically the best evidence that they are. You wake up, hop on Big Brother’s board, and bang away at the keyboard like you’re on a one-man PR mission—“Notice us! We're relevant! ISU isn’t going broke!” Meanwhile, reality is sitting in the corner sipping coffee and smirking.

You remind me that one annoying kid in grade school who’d follow you around at recess making up wild crap—“My dad owns an electric machine gun, and we have a pet tiger in our basement!”—and he’s so wrapped up in his own fantasy world that you almost want to see how far he’ll go… but mostly you just want him to shut up so you can go play kickball.

 

[Blackleaf40]

Trying to challenge the myth that presets here that ISU is going broke, while EIU will flourish once they move to this new super conference. How has getting rid of divisions helped you? How did Sanderson leaving ISU help you? In both cases you were worse off than before, EIU has $100 million dollars of debt more than ISU, looking at their numbers they are spending it as fast as it comes in, and you also have cut back on projects in your athletics like baseball and others. It's just not ISU.

We will be better than fine.

Thanks for your concern though.

 

[BunchofAholes]

Trying to challenge the myth that presets here that ISU is going broke, while EIU will flourish once they move to this new super conference. How has getting rid of divisions helped you? How did Sanderson leaving ISU help you? In both cases you were worse off than before, EIU has $100 million dollars of debt more than ISU, looking at their numbers they are spending it as fast as it comes in, and you also have cut back on projects in your athletics like baseball and others. It's just not ISU.

Hell no, it's not ISU. That's the point.

What you probably meant to say is "it's not just ISU".

 

[rchawk]

Hell no, it's not ISU. That's the point.

What you probably meant to say is "it's not just ISU".

I haven't heard of Beth Goetz begging the Board of Regents for a handout.

 

[EbbyCalvin]

I haven't heard of Beth Goetz begging the Board of Regents for a handout.

This! Iowa’s athletics department can spend hugely because huge money will continue to come in. It’s not exactly a new practice in major college sports. That contrasts sharply with ISU, who has never been able to spend huge money, because their athletics income is much, much smaller. Now, these strategies were fine in the Power 5 in the past and worked. Then NIL and revenue sharing entered the picture. And it’s a death sentence for ISU. There’s no way in hell they can maintain those payouts and be competitive. So, it’s off to a smaller conference. And I’m glad. Just go away, ISU. Go the hell away. With all due respect!!

 

[paednoch23]

This! Iowa’s athletics department can spend hugely because huge money will continue to come in. It’s not exactly a new practice in major college sports. That contrasts sharply with ISU, who has never been able to spend huge money, because their athletics income is much, much smaller. Now, these strategies were fine in the Power 5 in the past and worked. Then NIL and revenue sharing entered the picture. And it’s a death sentence for ISU. There’s no way in hell they can maintain those payouts and be competitive. So, it’s off to a smaller conference. And I’m glad. Just go away, ISU. Go the hell away. With all due respect!!

They will. Its inevitable. Soon and very soon they will be off our schedule. Let em rot.

 

[hahkize]

Trying to challenge the myth that presets here that ISU is going broke, while EIU will flourish once they move to this new super conference. How has getting rid of divisions helped you? How did Sanderson leaving ISU help you? In both cases you were worse off than before, EIU has $100 million dollars of debt more than ISU, looking at their numbers they are spending it as fast as it comes in, and you also have cut back on projects in your athletics like baseball and others. It's just not ISU.

You seem to have a lot of siblings

HawkeyeFansGoFullTard
LittleBro_Hawkeyes
SourGrapesHawkeyeFans
FullTardHawkeyes

 

[Easthawk1062]

You seem to have a lot of siblings

HawkeyeFansGoFullTard
LittleBro_Hawkeyes
SourGrapesHawkeyeFans
FullTardHawkeyes

Pretty funny seeing these dumb **** Husker fans laughing in this thread. Say what you want about Iowa, Iowa State or UNI, but those NEBURSKA clowns' athletics blow as$, and they don’t share the state with anyone.

 

[Cidhawkeye]

Trying to challenge the myth that presets here that ISU is going broke, while EIU will flourish once they move to this new super conference. How has getting rid of divisions helped you? How did Sanderson leaving ISU help you? In both cases you were worse off than before, EIU has $100 million dollars of debt more than ISU, looking at their numbers they are spending it as fast as it comes in, and you also have cut back on projects in your athletics like baseball and others. It's just not ISU.

Can you specify the 'others' in reference to cut backs in athletics? The baseball project at Iowa is a little bit more advanced than the baseball project at ISU................ did you care to specify why the baseball project was scaled back? Keep banging your drum, I admire your persistence. Most people when they don't have the facts to support their position stop before getting exposed as not having factual support. But you just keep bringing it every day. No factual support but still committed.

 

[paednoch23]

Trying to challenge the myth that presets here that ISU is going broke, while EIU will flourish once they move to this new super conference. How has getting rid of divisions helped you? How did Sanderson leaving ISU help you? In both cases you were worse off than before, EIU has $100 million dollars of debt more than ISU, looking at their numbers they are spending it as fast as it comes in, and you also have cut back on projects in your athletics like baseball and others. It's just not ISU.

Iowa State is one of just five "Power conference" teams to not have a baseball team, along with Colorado, Syracuse, Wisconsin and SMU.

 

[Franisdaman]

I haven't heard of Beth Goetz begging the Board of Regents for a handout.

and she has not said that they are facing $25M annual deficits

 

[Franisdaman]

They will. Its inevitable. Soon and very soon they will be off our schedule. Let em rot.

yeah, I am sick of helping with their ticket sales every other year

 

[rchawk]

The baseball project at Iowa is a little bit more advanced than the baseball project at ISU

Umm...

 

[rchawk]

yeah, I am sick of helping with their ticket sales every other year

I was cleaning old stuff out of the basement and found S&H green stamps! What address can I mail those to for Jamie?

 

[Hans81]

The last three sentences are in fact opinions.

You think Iowa will have trouble paying that loan back?

 

[Hans81]

From May 19, 2025:

What’s the problem…I’ve been praying for the demise of isu athletic dept.

 

[Hans81]

much like the iowa fans in regards to Nebraska on this board.

lol…Nebraska really? Iowa has fared well vs the huskers in all major sports since Nebby joined the Big 10.

 

[Hans81]

I do not at all share the hate for ISU. I like having worthy rivals in football, basketball, wrestling. In general, the level of spending on college athletics is just plain stupid.

That’s too bad…you need to ratchet up your hate of iswho.

 

[Hans81]

I would agree. You don't have to like ISU to realize that squeezing traditional schools out of major college sports is an elitist act. ISU and similar schools deserve to exist and to compete.

Yes, compete…but at the level they can afford.

 

[Hans81]

Iowa fans gloat, oblivious to where this road ends. I hear fans surmise that it will just lead to two major players, the SEC and the Big Ten.

What happens when the power brokers want just one league and endeavor to merge the best of the two conferences. Anyone who thinks Iowa makes that cut is living in lala land.

It would behoove everyone to advocate for a model that doesn’t allow schools like ISU to close up shop.

Iowa will fare just fine.