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Again, all I see here is a team that had 30 years to catch up and championships and still couldnt pull it off. Good luck next week!
Pathetic excuse for a "continuous" THIRTY YEAR ABSENCE from even playing in a title game....lol. Is that the best you can do?
Id be upset to if I had 30 years to catch up and couldnt.
And no it's not my best, but its my most CONTINUOUS, SUSTAINED AND FACTUAL.
So your saying Shelby didn't have a football program until your first championship? That's when you want to start counting? SMH. I'm sorry but history is history and nchsaa keeps those records for that reason. I guess your correct that Shelby doesn't have many gaps, it's hard to have gaps when you start winning as late as Shelby did.
Your like a low rent Johnnie Cochran trying to win the OJ case. Next you'll tell me if the helmet doesn't fit you must acquit. No doubt you must own an art gallery because you can put a frame around anything to make it look better than it really is, like Shelby. Keep preaching the "3 decades theory" but when people outside the state look to see who has the most successful football program in NC they will find Reidsville's name alone with the most championships. They don't even list second place.
You're right....just like when anyone looks to see who has the most NCAA titles and see Princeton and Yale....they become shocked...dig a little deeper...look up the dates of those titles and laugh....because they are prehistoric....just like the majority of Reidsville's. Success in high school football these days in North Carolina is synonymous with Shelby High school....not Reidsville. 30 year recent gaps kinda knock you outta the conversation. Facts not theories buddy. Theories are possibilities....a three straight decade recent gap actually happened for Reidsville. It can't be denied. Sorry.
I'm just waiting for someone to say "we dem ramz"......
I'll take our 1 Championship and go sit back down now.
I'll take our 1 Championship and go sit back down now.
Just for fun I did a little research on the NCHSAA page.... Now, I am old and half blind so I may have missed one or two here and there (damn that fine print) but here's what I came up with:
From about 1913 to 1977 there were two separate athletic associations in North Carolina - the NCHSAA and the WNCHSAA - and both had state champions.
So lets take a peek at that time frame.
In the NCHSAA state champions list, I found Reidsville listed 10 times:
1930 1931 1932 1937 1939 1940 1945 1950 1969 1970
In the WNCHSAA state champions list, I found Shelby listed 5 times:
1947 1968 1970 1972 1976. The apparently tied in 1975 so 6 times.
Now, for all intents and purposes, during a big chunk of that time, I would imagine most of those games were played by about 7 guys and a half deflated basketball, but whatever....
Both associations merged after 1977 so I guess this is what we should refer to as "The Modern Era"
During this timeframe I see Reidsville listed 7 times:
2002 2003 2007 2008 2009 2016 2018
I see Shelby listed 10 times:
1986 1987 1998 2005 2006 2013 2014 2015 2016 2018
So when you add all this up, I come up with Reidsville at 17 and Shelby as 15 (16 if you add the tie in there)
So from my perspective as an innocent bystander...I'd call it pretty much even.
From about 1913 to 1977 there were two separate athletic associations in North Carolina - the NCHSAA and the WNCHSAA - and both had state champions.
So lets take a peek at that time frame.
In the NCHSAA state champions list, I found Reidsville listed 10 times:
1930 1931 1932 1937 1939 1940 1945 1950 1969 1970
In the WNCHSAA state champions list, I found Shelby listed 5 times:
1947 1968 1970 1972 1976. The apparently tied in 1975 so 6 times.
Now, for all intents and purposes, during a big chunk of that time, I would imagine most of those games were played by about 7 guys and a half deflated basketball, but whatever....
Both associations merged after 1977 so I guess this is what we should refer to as "The Modern Era"
During this timeframe I see Reidsville listed 7 times:
2002 2003 2007 2008 2009 2016 2018
I see Shelby listed 10 times:
1986 1987 1998 2005 2006 2013 2014 2015 2016 2018
So when you add all this up, I come up with Reidsville at 17 and Shelby as 15 (16 if you add the tie in there)
So from my perspective as an innocent bystander...I'd call it pretty much even.
Shelby won in '84 as well. It was a D2 title. Back then only #1 in conference made the playoffs. That year they took the second place teams in the conferences and made another bracket. It is really no different than today's watered down championships but some Shelby followers don't claim it in the list.
Sorry. The WNCHSAA was a Western Piedmont North Carolina conference.
Not exactly state wide. And the NCHSAA does not recognize its champions as state champions.
In fact your buddy 96Champion, who posts as theTRUEdynasty now, even made up a fictional meeting of the NCHSAA Board of Directors claiming the NCHSAA has recognized the WNCHSAA champions as state champions. And we all know what that got him.
The WNCHSAA was a great conference with a maximum membership of about 40 schools that had some truly great football teams. But state champions they were not.
Good luck against Shelby Friday. You will need it.
Hey the back and forth is irrelevant. The current record between these teams has Shelby ahead. Let's talk about that. When we've played, Shelby has won more times than Reidsville, and that's all the matters.
How does any of this bull matter at any point in time.
Let me settle the argument of “who is in someone’s head”.
From time to time, I google reidsville football just to see what’s out there. Many years ago that search led me to a years old newspaper article about the “legislative” declaration that Reidsville was the football capital/capitol.
the article was interesting enough but there was one recent comment on the article. It was by someone named 98whatever.
so if you read a three year old article about a declaration that isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. Then bother creating a profile on that site. Then go on the same diatribe that we see every other post on ncpreps. That my friend, is in someone’s head.
Reidsville has more championships than Shelby. Reidsville will continue to have more championships than Shelby. There is at least one copy of Dhag’s book floating around Shelby. In reading that book, you know that Reidsville has more victories than Shelby but many are lost due to poor record keeping.
Personally, I don’t google Shelby football. I don’t read Shelby football articles. I couldn’t name one player on shelby’s team.....but I bet 98whatever could tell you what Jimmy Teague ate for breakfast this morning.
These truths are self-evident. To quote my twitter friend......I’m just saying.
From time to time, I google reidsville football just to see what’s out there. Many years ago that search led me to a years old newspaper article about the “legislative” declaration that Reidsville was the football capital/capitol.
the article was interesting enough but there was one recent comment on the article. It was by someone named 98whatever.
so if you read a three year old article about a declaration that isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. Then bother creating a profile on that site. Then go on the same diatribe that we see every other post on ncpreps. That my friend, is in someone’s head.
Reidsville has more championships than Shelby. Reidsville will continue to have more championships than Shelby. There is at least one copy of Dhag’s book floating around Shelby. In reading that book, you know that Reidsville has more victories than Shelby but many are lost due to poor record keeping.
Personally, I don’t google Shelby football. I don’t read Shelby football articles. I couldn’t name one player on shelby’s team.....but I bet 98whatever could tell you what Jimmy Teague ate for breakfast this morning.
These truths are self-evident. To quote my twitter friend......I’m just saying.
But yet, here you are bumping this tired thread that has been inactive since yesterday morning.
You bumping this thread, period. Everyone else is now preoccupied with discussing their opponent this week, buddy, hence this thread being inactive, until you started thinking about Shelby again, buddy.
Then the case has been settled. There were NO STATE CHAMPIONS during the existence of the WNCHSAA. The winner of the NCHSAA never had to play the winner of the WNCHSAA and vice versa so neither can claim to be a state champion. The WNCHSAA existed from 1932-1977. Damn Mule....that means 11 of Reidsville's claimed championships don't count. Ouch.
Reidsville's 3 decade absence (1971-2001) from championship play really does show up with this case now being settled.
So with the new criteria:
Shelby - 9 State Championships
Reidsville - 9 State Championships
Actually we don't know because we are missing some more. Good try though.
1914-1919 records not available
I stand corrected....the elder has spoken. The WNCHSAA was formed in Dec. 1929 so Reidsville's first title in 1930 was not state wide. Sorry Mule.
1977 brought about the merger that put all public high schools in NC under one governing body. Since then
Shelby 10
Reidsville 7
1977 brought about the merger that put all public high schools in NC under one governing body. Since then
Shelby 10
Reidsville 7
I picture you sitting in a room painted black and gold with the words "die Reidsville" and " laces out" painted in red all over the walls.