Burns, Crest, Shelby & KM thoughts

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It seems Shelby have gotten themselves right, that win over KM got them back... Shelby is going to be dangerous... East Rutherford & South Point will be tough games for them, but make no mistake they can win both of those games

Burns, with the loss to Cramer pretty much ended any chances of having a successful season, honestly they will be lucky to win another game this year... Maybe next year considering how young the Dogs are.. Beating Shelby was just a fluke and a direct result of playing the Lions very early

Crest... Crest will be Crest and most likely wins or finishes 2nd in the Big South ... Huss is VERY good.... Huss is the only team in this s conference that can challenge Crest

KM... OVERRATED... Highly overrated.. I'll probably get bashed for this but just my honest opinion... KM has zero chance of beating Crest... KM beats up much lower quality teams, but when faced with a real team they fall flat... Again, overrated.. If KM wins 7 games they should be happy

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It seems Shelby have gotten themselves right, that win over KM got them back... Shelby is going to be dangerous... East Rutherford & South Point will be tough games for them, but make no mistake they can win both of those games

Burns, with the loss to Cramer pretty much ended any chances of having a successful season, honestly they will be lucky to win another game this year... Maybe next year considering how young the Dogs are.. Beating Shelby was just a fluke and a direct result of playing the Lions very early

Crest... Crest will be Crest and most likely wins or finishes 2nd in the Big South ... Huss is VERY good.... Huss is the only team in this s conference that can challenge Crest

KM... OVERRATED... Highly overrated.. I'll probably get bashed for this but just my honest opinion... KM has zero chance of beating Crest... KM beats up much lower quality teams, but when faced with a real team they fall flat... Again, overrated.. If KM wins 7 games they should be happy

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I agree. Shelby is back to business. Burns only graduates maybe 3 starters I think so we know next year will be better. The defense cannot make stops. The offense has put up enough to win.
Crest and Huss next week will be awesome and I will be out of town or I would almost make that trip.
KM- sad but true. They play good teams and lose. Weak schedule has hurt them and I hate it for them as a team. Not big on the fans on here but it is what it is.
 
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It seems Shelby have gotten themselves right, that win over KM got them back... Shelby is going to be dangerous... East Rutherford & South Point will be tough games for them, but make no mistake they can win both of those games

Burns, with the loss to Cramer pretty much ended any chances of having a successful season, honestly they will be lucky to win another game this year... Maybe next year considering how young the Dogs are.. Beating Shelby was just a fluke and a direct result of playing the Lions very early

Crest... Crest will be Crest and most likely wins or finishes 2nd in the Big South ... Huss is VERY good.... Huss is the only team in this s conference that can challenge Crest

KM... OVERRATED... Highly overrated.. I'll probably get bashed for this but just my honest opinion... KM has zero chance of beating Crest... KM beats up much lower quality teams, but when faced with a real team they fall flat... Again, overrated.. If KM wins 7 games they should be happy

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Agreed with pretty much all you said, good analysis. I’m no longer concerned about East Rutherford, though, their defense is suspect. South Point, on the other hand, is a problem. They are playing some great football right now, that will be a tall task for the Lions. Our defense is playing lights out, though. It should be a heck of a game.
 
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I agree. Shelby is back to business. Burns only graduates maybe 3 starters I think so we know next year will be better. The defense cannot make stops. The offense has put up enough to win.
Crest and Huss next week will be awesome and I will be out of town or I would almost make that trip.
KM- sad but true. They play good teams and lose. Weak schedule has hurt them and I hate it for them as a team. Not big on the fans on here but it is what it is.
One other thought. Has any team in our County won a “big game” over a good team? Crest beat SP but the Sp went down and it was anybody’s game before that. SP is 5-2 so not a bad team at all. Burns beat SHELBY which proved to not be doing much because SHELBY isn’t the Shelby of old. Crest beat Shelby which didn’t say much. Shelby beat KM which proved KM played a weak schedule. Name one big win by any team. Crest lost to Weddington which was the biggest test they have had. Huss and Crest will be the next big test to see who is for real. KM fans on here have brought a lot of heat on themselves but none of our teams have beat anyone yet.
 
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Agreed with pretty much all you said, good analysis. I’m no longer concerned about East Rutherford, though, their defense is suspect. South Point, on the other hand, is a problem. They are playing some great football right now, that will be a tall task for the Lions. Our defense is playing lights out, though. It should be a heck of a game.
Why are you no longer concerned about ER?
 

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Why are you no longer concerned about ER?
Their defense doesn’t impress me, they give up a lot of points. No offense, don’t take this the wrong way, but I can’t see them just lining up, and running it straight down the middle as they did versus Burns. They just simply ran it up middle on y’all, no counter action, no misdirection or anything, not much zone reading, just straight up middle with whomever they’d line up in the backfield.
 
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Their defense doesn’t impress me, they give up a lot of points. No offense, don’t take this the wrong way, but I can’t see them just lining up, and running it straight down the middle as they did versus Burns. They just simply ran it up middle on y’all, no counter action, no misdirection or anything, not much zone reading, just straight up middle with whomever they’d line up in the backfield.
None taken. They did run it down our throat and we knew it was coming. I think the ER and Shelby game will be a good one though.
 

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One other thought. Has any team in our County won a “big game” over a good team? Crest beat SP but the Sp went down and it was anybody’s game before that. SP is 5-2 so not a bad team at all. Burns beat SHELBY which proved to not be doing much because SHELBY isn’t the Shelby of old. Crest beat Shelby which didn’t say much. Shelby beat KM which proved KM played a weak schedule. Name one big win by any team. Crest lost to Weddington which was the biggest test they have had. Huss and Crest will be the next big test to see who is for real. KM fans on here have brought a lot of heat on themselves but none of our teams have beat anyone yet.
I completely agree and I'll go one step further. I don't really think any of the teams are very good. I know that Shelby is no where what we have been the past 4 years. I know the Crest morons will holler we beat Shelby and yes you did but in all honesty unless 3A is weak this year they aren't making a deep run. Crest is a good team just not great. Burns has come back down to earth, still boot stomped my Lions though. Kings Mt is a way way way over rated. If Crest had KM's QB then they would have something I think to contend for a title.
 

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Crest Offense is:eek: terrible! We have line issues, RB injured,and play calling issues! I think we might get blown out by Huss.
 

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Crest’s offense better be running laps or doing a hundred pushups on Monday for that God awful performance last night. Seems like almost all of Ashbrooks points came from the offense just turning the ball over. Hunter Huss will eat Crest alive if them boys don’t wake up.
 

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Crest’s offense better be running laps or doing a hundred pushups on Monday for that God awful performance last night. Seems like almost all of Ashbrooks points came from the offense just turning the ball over. Hunter Huss will eat Crest alive if them boys don’t wake up.
Just weird because we don’t get Jefferies, Greene, Zanders,and Geter all involved on the same week!! Everyone will have to be involved against Huss next week
 
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For you guys that said that KM has no chance of beating Crest than you are crazy. The KM-Huss game was a very competitive game. KM just dug themselves too big of a hole with the two early interceptions. I honestly believe that the Huss/KM game was the conference championship game and that Crest has no shot against Huss next week. Crest is too one dimensional on offense and it will haunt them against both Huss and KM.
 
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Let me point out that ER is more than just run it up the middle. They did that against Burns because Burns couldn't stop that. Burns didnt see the arsenal. Had a WR, #6, catch 3 touchdown passes last night. We barely threw it against Burns. Why would ER throw it when Burns couldn't stop a simple counter play?

As for defense, it is suspect. But with that being said, they shut RS out last night. Next Friday against SP, we will see how good they are.
 
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Let me point out that ER is more than just run it up the middle. They did that against Burns because Burns couldn't stop that. Burns didnt see the arsenal. Had a WR, #6, catch 3 touchdown passes last night. We barely threw it against Burns. Why would ER throw it when Burns couldn't stop a simple counter play?

As for defense, it is suspect. But with that being said, they shut RS out last night. Next Friday against SP, we will see how good they are.
Of course, you take what the defense gives you, and Burns’ middle was easy access, but you will not do that versus our linebackers. You will need to complete a couple of passes, and I guarantee our secondary is a whole lot better than RS’ secondary. We have length and athleticism back there. Our D is looking very good, and they will be hell now for real, now that we are obviously facing 2A competition.
 
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For you guys that said that KM has no chance of beating Crest than you are crazy. The KM-Crest game was a very competitive game. KM just dig themselves two big of a hole with the two early interceptions. I honestly believe that the Huss/KM game was the conference championship game and that Crest has no shot against Huss next week. Crest is too one dimensional on offense and it will haunt them against both Huss and KM.
I see Crest beating KM. KM struggles vs athletic teams, particularly those with an athletic secondary, that can contain or slow down Paysour some. Shelby did that, and Crest is more than capable, too. You’re very familiar with that no.3 in their secondary, right? He’s a heck of s player, and so is no. 21. Crest also has a good front 7. Wade has too much on his plate, having to contribute so much to KM’s absent running game, too. Mack has done nothing. I also see Ashbrook giving KM all they want next week, they are athletic, too.
 
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I know I’m going to be seen as biased and that’s fine, but Kings Mountain was definitely stronger last year than this year. Do I believe Crest is going to kill KM? No, not at all, but I do believe as of right now I’d pick Crest to win by at least a TD. Oh and by the way Hunter Huss VS Crest will be the conference championship because we all know, the rest of the teams in the conference are pretty much done and now the KM fans have to cheer for the Crest Chargers if they want a chance to share that conference championship.
 

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I see Crest beating KM. KM struggles vs athletic teams, particularly those with an athletic secondary, that can contain or slow down Paysour some. Shelby did that, and Crest is more than capable, too. You’re very familiar with that no.3 in their secondary, right? He’s a heck of s player, and so is no. 21. Crest also has a good front 7. Wade has too much on his plate, having to contribute so much to KM’s absent running game, too. Mack has done nothing. I also see Ashbrook giving KM all they want next week, they are athletic, too.
I disagree with your prediction. Crest is struggling offensively. I agree that Ashbrook is the trap game for KM emotionally coming off the Huss game . There is a lot of football to be played. KM threw for almost 300 yds on Huss so they will definitely be able to pass it some on Crest. I do agree that the KM offensive game plan was horrible against Shelby and made the Shelby secondary’s job that much easier. Also KM substituted too much against Shelby in my opinion and played some players who are not ready for that level of competition. As far as the running game no one is going to have a lot of success running on Huss. Nobody. 4A teams included. I’ve said that several times on these boards about how loaded the Huss defense is. KM’s o-line does need to improve however. Most of the people on here are so glued to the past that they are unable to see or believe a team like Huss is one of the best teams in the state. If KM wins next week than it will run the table on the rest of the conference.
 
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I disagree with your prediction. Crest is struggling offensively. I agree that Ashbrook is the trap game for KM emotionally coming off the Huss game . There is a lot of football to be played. KM threw for almost 300 yds on Huss so they will definitely be able to pass it some on Crest. I do agree that the KM offensive game plan was horrible against Shelby and made the Shelby secondary’s job that much easier. Also KM substituted too much against Shelby in my opinion and played some players who are not ready for that level of competition. As far as the running game no one is going to have a lot of success running on Huss. Nobody. 4A teams included. I’ve said that several times on these boards about how loaded the Huss defense is. KM’s o-line does need to improve however. Most of the people on here are so glued to the past that they are unable to see or believe a team like Huss is one of the best teams in the state. If KM wins next week than it will run the table on the rest of the conference.

So what’s the excuse with SC? I mean Crest struggled, sure, but not nearly as bad as KM. Huss may very well beat Crest. But I promise, if Crest comes to play, outside of Clover, it’ll be the toughest game Huss has faced thus far in NC. And as far 4A goes goes, obviously 4A doesn’t mean better, I’ve seen 4A teams fall to Chase including when 4A teams like Crest used to be against lower classes, 4A doesn’t mean anything
 
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Everybody seems to be handing the win to Huss . I think it's a mistake to do that. They look like a solid team. Playing at Huss is advantage us.The Chargers are gonna roll up in there loud and proud. I think with the road crowd,conference crown implications, We will do enough to win.
Can Huss handle the pressure ? That is the question. Are they mentally tough enough ? Have they been in a dogfight?
 

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So what’s the excuse with SC? I mean Crest struggled, sure, but not nearly as bad as KM. Huss may very well beat Crest. But I promise, if Crest comes to play, outside of Clover, it’ll be the toughest game Huss has faced thus far in NC. And as far 4A goes goes, obviously 4A doesn’t mean better, I’ve seen 4A teams fall to Chase including when 4A teams like Crest used to be against lower classes, 4A doesn’t mean anything
91 you talk out of both sides of your mouth. Thanks and have a good day.
 
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Of course, you take what the defense gives you, and Burns’ middle was easy access, but you will not do that versus our linebackers. You will need to complete a couple of passes, and I guarantee our secondary is a whole lot better than RS’ secondary. We have length and athleticism back there. Our D is looking very good, and they will be hell now for real, now that we are obviously facing 2A competition.
In all fairness, Burns second touchdown was straight up the middle on SHELBY. Your LBs were gassed most of the second half. We ran it pretty well against SHELBY and ER offense is much better than ours.
 

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For you guys that said that KM has no chance of beating Crest than you are crazy. The KM-Huss game was a very competitive game. KM just dig themselves two big of a hole with the two early interceptions. I honestly believe that the Huss/KM game was the conference championship game and that Crest has no shot against Huss next week. Crest is too one dimensional on offense and it will haunt them against both Huss and KM.
When Crest went 5 wide last nite I thought it would be for more than 1 play. If we don’t spread Huss fast defense out we have no shot.. it’s that simple!!
 

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When Crest went 5 wide last nite I thought it would be for more than 1 play. If we don’t spread Huss fast defense out we have no shot.. it’s that simple!!
One thing I did notice about Huss, though. There offensive line isn’t all that. KM pressured Wallace all night, and lived in Huss’ backfield all night long. Huss’ success, offensively, was a result of shear athleticism from individual players. Crest’s D is better than KM’s D, in my opinion, but I like Huss’ fast, athletic defense a heck of a lot more than I like Crest’s offense, that’s why I think they win this game.
 

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Shelby has oline issues this year. They have improved as pass blockers but not very much in the run game. QB had all night to throw against Chase and completed less than 50 percent which is concerning. The defense will have to carry them against quality teams. I’m not fooled by Chase and a bad Mt Pleasant team.
 

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Everybody seems to be handing the win to Huss . I think it's a mistake to do that. They look like a solid team. Playing at Huss is advantage us.The Chargers are gonna roll up in there loud and proud. I think with the road crowd,conference crown implications, We will do enough to win.
Can Huss handle the pressure ? That is the question. Are they mentally tough enough ? Have they been in a dogfight?
If your offense is predictable as it has been I'll hand Huss the W. U need a more creative offense than that up the middle, pitch, QB draw number u do.
 

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In all fairness, Burns second touchdown was straight up the middle on SHELBY. Your LBs were gassed most of the second half. We ran it pretty well against SHELBY and ER offense is much better than ours.
Your exactly correct and I think you gashed us up the middle for either a long gain or another TD up the middle later in the game. I watched the video of your game against East and they are going to be a hand full and very difficult for Shelby to beat. Our defense does seem to be playing better and one new LB making better reads of where he is supposed to go. However our offense is still a disaster. Still can't run the ball effectively and the QB has started trying to throw the ball as hard as he can and either throwing it so hard they can't catch it or throws it way over the receivers head. We can get away with it against the teams we played the last three weeks but those last two against East and the midgets will be a much much harder task.
 
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I disagree with your prediction. Crest is struggling offensively. I agree that Ashbrook is the trap game for KM emotionally coming off the Huss game . There is a lot of football to be played. KM threw for almost 300 yds on Huss so they will definitely be able to pass it some on Crest. I do agree that the KM offensive game plan was horrible against Shelby and made the Shelby secondary’s job that much easier. Also KM substituted too much against Shelby in my opinion and played some players who are not ready for that level of competition. As far as the running game no one is going to have a lot of success running on Huss. Nobody. 4A teams included. I’ve said that several times on these boards about how loaded the Huss defense is. KM’s o-line does need to improve however. Most of the people on here are so glued to the past that they are unable to see or believe a team like Huss is one of the best teams in the state. If KM wins next week than it will run the table on the rest of the conference.
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Pretty good call on Crest vs Km shutdown.
Boy I watched game last night, Crest D played well in 1st half, but looked gassed in 2nd.
Crest offense play calling was terrible, I could done better job.
Km struggled at times to move ball, but in end was whipping Crest up front.
But after last night watching. I think Shelby maybe best team out of the Cleveland co.schools. to bad cant all play at 1st of year and last..best 2 out of 3....lol
 
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It seems Shelby have gotten themselves right, that win over KM got them back... Shelby is going to be dangerous... East Rutherford & South Point will be tough games for them, but make no mistake they can win both of those games

Burns, with the loss to Cramer pretty much ended any chances of having a successful season, honestly they will be lucky to win another game this year... Maybe next year considering how young the Dogs are.. Beating Shelby was just a fluke and a direct result of playing the Lions very early

Crest... Crest will be Crest and most likely wins or finishes 2nd in the Big South ... Huss is VERY good.... Huss is the only team in this s conference that can challenge Crest

KM... OVERRATED... Highly overrated.. I'll probably get bashed for this but just my honest opinion... KM has zero chance of beating Crest... KM beats up much lower quality teams, but when faced with a real team they fall flat... Again, overrated.. If KM wins 7 games they should be happy

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I think the HIGHTY OVERRATED YOUNG MOUNTIES had a pretty good season 9 and 2 losing only to SHELBY AND HUSS, Two very good teams. KM started playing its best football after MACK started finally getting healthy from being hurt in the first quarter of KM first game, when KM can run the ball its makes their offensive so much more difficult to handle. Our defense has play VERY GOOD all year, hope we can take the momentum from last night big win over a very good CREST TEAM INTO THE PLAYOFFS.