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You're up 7 points, the other team is out of timeouts with 90 seconds left and you throw it incomplete on 3rd down and stop the clock for the other team? I guarantee you Shane laws was thinking "THANK YOU!" when that happened. That's seriously how head coaches get fired in college and the nfl. Despite all the BS or non BS calls, that's one of the worst calls you will ever see. Incredibly stupid and most likely lost Erwin the game.
 
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I see where people are saying Erwin had bad clock management. But 85 yards for a td in a minute and 9 secs and no time outs. How did that happen?

Erwin sacked Reynolds qb and the clock should have kept running but they stop it for a damn chin strap being lose. How do these refs get big games like this? Honestly, I have no answers for that.
 

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You're up 7 points, the other team is out of timeouts with 90 seconds left and you throw it incomplete on 3rd down and stop the clock for the other team? I guarantee you Shane laws was thinking "THANK YOU!" when that happened. That's seriously how head coaches get fired in college and the nfl. Despite all the BS or non BS calls, that's one of the worst calls you will ever see. Incredibly stupid and most likely lost Erwin the game.

That was very stupid on Erwin part but Reynolds should never have been within 28 points of Erwin. They were gift wrapped two scores at the end of the half with the int call and ejection.
 

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Erwin is absolutely snake bit in the Mac. How many teams have they had the last 7-8 years that were supposed to obliterate every Mac team and it not happen? It's always something nuts. Tonight, players being morons in 2013, fair catch punt return tds vs Reynolds several years ago etc.

All these qbs throwing for 7,000 yards the last 7 years and they have what? One shared conference championship to show for it? That's nuts

Tell me about it. Don't forget the game vs Asheville that Garrett Brown was ejected from. I think we are cursed.
 

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So what happened with the ejection? An Erwin defensive player?

Nobody seemed to know. The ref got physical with one of our better defensive players then ejected him. Coach Sexton went crazy. It basically put Reynolds in the end zone. What makes it even worse is that arguably Reynolds best player is one of our former players.
 

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Why would a ref get into a physical altercation with a player? Other than breaking up a fight between opposing players or pulling guys off each other after a fight for a fumble, i see no reason why a ref and a player should be in a shoving math
 

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Why would a ref get into a physical altercation with a player? Other than breaking up a fight between opposing players or pulling guys off each other after a fight for a fumble, i see no reason why a ref and a player should be in a shoving math

That's what we all wanted to know. It was same ref that called back the td a few minutes later. He definitely had a issue with Erwin
 

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One bright spot tonight was Erwin's running game. Isaiah Poore had a field day on their defense.
 
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Tell me about it. Don't forget the game vs Asheville that Garrett Brown was ejected from. I think we are cursed.
No, Erwin has no discipline. Been that way for years now. When it keeps happening,it's not the refs, it's you.
I hate Reynolds but they're pretty damn good when the heat is on.
 

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Well we handled your *** pretty well in the scrimmage. Go buy some more tight, shiny,little, gymnastic tank tops for your 7v7 champions.

Haha...still talking about that stupid scrimmage that you lost 7-4...Your schedule is trash this year so far and I can promise you would want no part of Erwin now.
 

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No, Erwin has no discipline. Been that way for years now. When it keeps happening,it's not the refs, it's you.
I hate Reynolds but they're pretty damn good when the heat is on.

What the hell has your school done lately. They suck. We would have beat them the last 6 years if they had the balls to play us. At least your county rival did for a few years. I remember beating up on your teams when we sucked. I would love to play them now.
 

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What the hell has your school done lately. They suck. We would have beat them the last 6 years if they had the balls to play us. At least your county rival did for a few years. I remember beating up on your teams when we sucked. I would love to play them now.
Waaaaaaaaaa, you suck, waaaaaaaa.
And I remember a period when the entire MAC was like 0 for Haywood County for about 3 years if you want to hop in that time machine.
Raise that 7v7 trophy with pride! Go play with those balls, that's all you'll have to do come mid -November, again.
 

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Waaaaaaaaaa, you suck, waaaaaaaa.
And I remember a period when the entire MAC was like 0 for Haywood County for about 3 years if you want to hop in that time machine.
Raise that 7v7 trophy with pride! Go play with those balls, that's all you'll have to do come mid -November, again.

Why are you even on here. We don't even play your team. I wish we did because it would be like playing a middle school team compared to what we have played so far. I dont care if you're undefeated. Everyone knows your schedule is trash. You will get smoked in the playoffs quickly. I just pray you go 3AA because you might get your wish and play Erwin. Only this time it will be a real game, not a scrimmage that you keep hanging your hat on.
 

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Why are you even on here. We don't even play your team. I wish we did because it would be like playing a middle school team compared to what we have played so far. I dont care if you're undefeated. Everyone knows your schedule is trash. You will get smoked in the playoffs quickly. I just pray you go 3AA because you might get your wish and play Erwin. Only this time it will be a real game, not a scrimmage that you keep hanging your hat on.
Not to point at the elephant in the room, but that Erwin schedule got you guys 7 wins and a one and done in the playoffs last year (and likely will again this year). If both of your teams go out in one round, they can at least talk about 10 wins (or so) as opposed to 6-7 wins and a whole bunch of "quality losses".

FYI, the whole "tough schedule" thing just means your team isn't ready to play the teams that keep beating them up. It's a kind of masochism where you take pleasure and pride in taking the beatings....
 

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I read where Erwin is giving up almost 50 points per game. That's just bad defense no matter what schedule your playing. Hard to win big games with half a team.
 

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So what's that say about Reynolds? They gave up 48 tonight. Everyone has talked about Erwin's defense but what about their offense that is hands down better then anyone in wnc. What's up with the Tuscola fans obsession with Erwin. Maybe it's the fact that Erwin is the only team worth a crap they have stepped on the field with this season? I could care less about them but for some reason they keep coming over to tell us about a lame scrimmage they didn't win.
 

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erwins offense is maybe the best i've ever seen. at erwin very deceptive ball handling,receivers catch everything and block for each other, nice o'line and very good runners. they can make some noise but they have to get a few stops each half because they're going to score 80% of their possessions
 
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Again, I apologize to the Reynolds and Tuscola fans on here. Last night's game was very frustrating because we basically gift wrapped the conference championship for ACR. The refs hurt but I know that is part of sports sometimes. I was just venting after a heartbreaking loss. I think we have all been there. I bet ai1015 and ceingle would probably say the same thing. Congrats to Reynolds on the big win.
 
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CJ Thompson highlights. The second play is the interception and the phantom block in the back call.

 

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I agree with you guys after watching that a few times I didn't see a block in the back. But guys after seeing what kind of game Poore had it makes the coaches decision to throw the ball at the end of the game even more stupid. They were having a hard time stopping Poore you want to run some clock they should have never thrown another pass and kept giving him the ball until he said he needed a break. Coaches cost you as much as the refs. And 85 yards for a td with no time outs and only a 1:09 to go. How does that happen guys? Anyway know how you guys feel we have all been there it's very frustrating dealing with the pitiful officiating in the mountains. Good luck to you guys the rest of the year you won't lose another regular season game. And please take it easy on my Cougars.
 

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CJ Thompson highlights. The second play is the interception and the phantom block in the back call.



Clearly there were two blocks in the back, one at the 25 yard line (not called) and one at the 11 which was called, where our #12 was clearly hit in the back. Look unbiased and you will see it. I am sure you would expect for those to be called had ACR been returning that pick. It was an amazing return, but again there was clearly a block in the back and the block really wasn't even necessary. Posting this video defeats your fantum block in the back theory. Let's not forget ACR was in the red zone on 3 other occasions and failed to score a point and two of those times were because of penalties that forced us to attempt a FG and the other was a 17 yard holding penalty because it happened behind the line of scrimmage and we ended up punting. ACR fans could say that was bad calls in both situations but we don't know for sure. Also we scored on 4th and goal, I was on the goal line during the play and he was clearly in but the officials never blew the whistle and at that point the ball was knocked loose while he was laying on the pile in the end zone. We easily could have scored 3 more TDs as well but officials made or didn't make calls we see as correct. It works both ways. Great game and Erwin will make noise in the playoffs they have a very talented team!
 
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Waaaaaaaaaa, you suck, waaaaaaaa.
And I remember a period when the entire MAC was like 0 for Haywood County for about 3 years if you want to hop in that time machine.
Raise that 7v7 trophy with pride! Go play with those balls, that's all you'll have to do come mid -November, again.
This is 2016 season not the 1970s. Just because the forward pass has not been introduced to your team , don't blame Erwin. As for your powder puff schedule, I would be surprised if you were not undefeated. No competition. Your conference pre season favorite team,
Erwin dispatched of them by 23 points at their place. Now we need to define scrimmage for you. To engage in a simulated game. Well with no wins or losses being recorded most coaches that don't have anything to prove plays everyone to see how they do in a game situation. Most coaches want to know what we need to work on. I bet you ran around Haywood County bragging how your team kicked Erwins butt in a scrimmage. Now I hope your team gets a high seed in the playoffs and Erwin has to go there. I welcome that. Then we'll see what undefeated can handle.
 

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One game at a time. I'm positive this is the approach that both head coaches are taking. They probably would not admit it but this could be for all the conference marbles. Having been voted #1 & #2, this pits the two most talented teams in a must win situation. All things being what they are, leads me to home field advantage and the refs. We've had our fair(or unfair)share of home cooking at R. L. Dalton Stadium. I am referring to, hand up-fair catch and then runs for the winning TD. Even radio commentator and former head coach Bobby Poss couldn't believe that call. Sometimes just seeing who shows up to officiate will leave you shaking your head. IE-Mick Mick from Enka. In most close games special teams play can be the difference or just a simple turnover. I hope this is the case and we don't leave there with a stomach full of I told you so. Sure leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
De javu. Need I say anymore.
 

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One bright spot tonight was Erwin's running game. Isaiah Poore had a field day on their defense.

I think most of us non Erwin or Reynolds fans are asking the same question. Poore had an off the charts night, so why the heck when the game was on the line did your coach decide to throw the ball 3 times instead of running it with a stud back to burn up the clock? Not trying to start a fight here, just sucks for your kids to play their butts off all night and end up with a loss because of some dumb play calling right at the end.

Most of us understand that when you play Erwin or Reynolds you absolutely don't give them the ball back under any circumstances with a minute left on the clock. I've seen you guys score 21 points in under a minute. We have learned that lesson the hard way over the past few seasons. Seems like your coaches don't understand that for some reason.
 

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Clearly there were two blocks in the back, one at the 25 yard line (not called) and one at the 11 which was called, where our #12 was clearly hit in the back. Look unbiased and you will see it. I am sure you would expect for those to be called had ACR been returning that pick. It was an amazing return, but again there was clearly a block in the back and the block really wasn't even necessary. Posting this video defeats your fantum block in the back theory. Let's not forget ACR was in the red zone on 3 other occasions and failed to score a point and two of those times were because of penalties that forced us to attempt a FG and the other was a 17 yard holding penalty because it happened behind the line of scrimmage and we ended up punting. ACR fans could say that was bad calls in both situations but we don't know for sure. Also we scored on 4th and goal, I was on the goal line during the play and he was clearly in but the officials never blew the whistle and at that point the ball was knocked loose while he was laying on the pile in the end zone. We easily could have scored 3 more TDs as well but officials made or didn't make calls we see as correct. It works both ways. Great game and Erwin will make noise in the playoffs they have a very talented team!

Cmon..I respect your opinion but if those are blocks in the back there would be one called on every down in every game. They were guys tripping over their own feet trying to catch CJ. That was just one of the problems. The clock stoppage and ejection were even worse. Coach Sexton said on the radio this am it's the worst he can remember. I guess it doesn't matter became the bottom line is Reynolds gets the win. I just hate how it happened. Hopefully we get another shot at you guys in the playoffs.
 

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Cmon..I respect your opinion but if those are blocks in the back there would be one called on every down in every game. They were guys tripping over their own feet trying to catch CJ. That was just one of the problems. The clock stoppage and ejection were even worse. Coach Sexton said on the radio this am it's the worst he can remember. I guess it doesn't matter became the bottom line is Reynolds gets the win. I just hate how it happened. Hopefully we get another shot at you guys in the playoffs.
They said on the radio today that coach sexton had to bite his tongue when asked about the officiating and then made some comment about having to play against 15 people or something. He should be biting his tongue by making the single worst play call in wnc this year by throwing it on 3rd down with 1 min left and Reynolds having no timeouts. That's what they should be asking him. He is to blame for that loss in my opinion. He's a great coach but any middle school coach would be smart enough not to do that
 
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I totally agree the 3rd down pass was not the best idea. However had the player caught the pass (He was wide open and dropped the pass) we would be saying Sexton was a genius.
 

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I totally agree the 3rd down pass was not the best idea. However had the player caught the pass (He was wide open and dropped the pass) we would be saying Sexton was a genius.
It doesnt matter. If you run the ball on that 3rd down, your chances of winning go up to damn near 99 percent. He left them the time they needed by idiotically throwing the ball incomplete. That gave Reynolds an additional 30 seconds in the game. They scored with 23 seconds left, so what does that tell you? DUMB. Thats what you Erwin guys should be livid about.
This was probably the team that FINALLY had the best chance to win an outright conference championship for the first time since 1904 and your coach literally THROWS the game away. Now you need us to beat Reynolds and you guys win out to just get a tie most likely.
 

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Cmon..I respect your opinion but if those are blocks in the back there would be one called on every down in every game. They were guys tripping over their own feet trying to catch CJ. That was just one of the problems. The clock stoppage and ejection were even worse. Coach Sexton said on the radio this am it's the worst he can remember. I guess it doesn't matter became the bottom line is Reynolds gets the win. I just hate how it happened. Hopefully we get another shot at you guys in the playoffs.

And I respect your opinion on how it was called. Erwin fans see no foul, ACR fans see it as a foul that's the rose colored glasses each team looks through. I don't mean just ACR and Erwin, I mean all teams see things differently based on who you pull for. I'm sure if ACR had that exact same return and no flags thrown then Erwin fans would see it as a block in the back. The kid at the 11 yard line was hit in the back, the Erwin boy even stood there looking at him after he hit him. I understand your frustration, we've had these type games with Asheville where we felt we should have won. It's HS football and they are kids and officials and coaches make mistakes also. I don't think we can sit here and say that every call was correct on either side. The officials miss calls, but a couple of their calls also cost us points so it wasn't as one sided as you may think. I wish you luck the rest of the way, God bless and it was a great game played by great players. Maybe we both will make a lot of noise come playoff time! This conference is FAR from settled, Asheville and TCR both will still have their input as to who is MAC Champion!
 
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It doesnt matter. If you run the ball on that 3rd down, your chances of winning go up to damn near 99 percent. He left them the time they needed by idiotically throwing the ball incomplete. That gave Reynolds an additional 30 seconds in the game. They scored with 23 seconds left, so what does that tell you? DUMB. Thats what you Erwin guys should be livid about.
This was probably the team that FINALLY had the best chance to win an outright conference championship for the first time since 1904 and your coach literally THROWS the game away. Now you need us to beat Reynolds and you guys win out to just get a tie most likely.
Erwin went undefeated in conference in 2000-2001 season. So not since 1904. Also a cougars fan already weighed in on the block in the back controversy and said he did not see it. A unbiased opinion has weighed in on that matter.
 

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I'm not saying it wasn't a block in the back on the pick 6, but it's irrelevant. You know those officials can make boneheaded calls, but the fact of the matter is Erwin had a 7 point lead with 90 seconds left and the ball and the coach made an even bigger bonehead call
 
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It was a great game by some great athletes. Calls were made and calls were missed both ways. Best of luck to Erwin the rest of the way, now it's on to the Asheville game for us, no time to pound our chest, we haven't won anything yet.