Kinnick East coming along nicely

BunchofAholes

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Nice but I still think they went too small on this. 35K is tiny. Guess they're going for a Cameron indoor feel for football. I read somewhere that NW averaged around $35K in the old dump. You'd think more will come to a modern venue. Then again, I'm reading that ticket prices are really high.
 
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hahkize

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I thought the P2 was coming up w/ some commitment levels programs had to meet in order to be a member. One of them is surely stadium seating capability. Maybe NW is looking for some type of agreement ND has w/ the ACC for just Olympic sports
 

BunchofAholes

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I thought the P2 was coming up w/ some commitment levels programs had to meet in order to be a member. One of them is surely stadium seating capability. Maybe NW is looking for some type of agreement ND has w/ the ACC for just Olympic sports
One has to think they've looked at this angle and planned accordingly. Either NW is expecting an exemption or planning to move out of the B1G, which I can't imagine they would.

Autzen and SHI (Rutgers) are just over 50 as is the Goophs home.
 
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WeBeHerkin

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Meanwhile in Kinnick West.


Facing $147M deficit, ISU Athletics halts Hilton Coliseum renovation, ups ticket prices​

‘ISU views this effort as one of the top priorities and challenges facing the university’

Vanessa Miller
Vanessa Miller
AMES — Iowa State University Athletics — facing a $147 million budget deficit through 2031, or just under $25 million annually over the next six years — is rolling out painful concessions, including indefinitely postponing construction of a new wrestling practice facility and a $25 million Hilton Coliseum renovation.


“In the past two years, there have been several transformational changes in college athletics that will result in $30 million in recurring annual financial repercussions to the athletics department beginning this year,” ISU athletics reported in its 2026 budget report to the Board of Regents, made public this week.


Given the challenges, Iowa State told the board it has made several tough budget decisions, including:

  • Indefinitely postponing construction of a planned $20 million wrestling practice facility and a $25 million Hilton Coliseum renovation;
  • No longer absorbing the cost of sales tax on tickets and instead passing on that expense — about $1.5 million annually — to consumers;
  • Upping annual required donation levels for membership in the Cyclone Club by 20 percent — generating an estimated $3 million annually.
  • And mandating all sports and support units cut costs and find savings “to slow the growth of overall expenses.”
 

DukeSlater

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NW has said it's going for ambiance and cutting-edge amenities in a stadium inspired by top soccer facilities. NW will finally have sellouts in a stadium this size. The renderings suggest it will be an intimate atmosphere with all the latest tech and fan-friendly conveniences. I think it's the smart way to go. Don't we know by now that bigger isn't necessarily better? And many schools that have done major remodels or built new facilities recently have reduced capacity, and some--like Arizona State--dramatically so--from around 75,000 to about 54,000.

It would seem that prying people out of their AC (or heat) at home in front of their giant-screen TVs to sit in the discomfort of a football stadium is only going to get more and more difficult. The inconvenience and significant cost of attending a game is a huge issue. A generation from now I think it's possible, if not likely, that sports will be played in TV studio settings with small live crowds . . . perhaps less than 10,000 instead of 70,000.

Regardless, I think the NW stadium will be unique and serve that institution well.
 
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WeBeHerkin

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NW has said it's going for ambiance and cutting-edge amenities in a stadium inspired by top soccer facilities. NW will finally have sellouts in a stadium this size. The renderings suggest it will be an intimate atmosphere with all the latest tech and fan-friendly conveniences. I think it's the smart way to go. Don't we know by now that bigger isn't necessarily better? And many schools that have done major remodels or built new facilities recently have reduced capacity, and some--like Arizona State--dramatically so--from around 75,000 to about 54,000.

It would seem that prying people out of their AC (or heat) at home in front of their giant-screen TVs to sit in the discomfort of a football stadium is only going to get more and more difficult. The inconvenience and significant cost of attending a game is a huge issue. A generation from now I think it's possible, if not likely, that sports will be played in TV studio settings with small live crowds . . . perhaps less than10,000 instead of 70,000.

Regardless, I think the NW stadium will be unique and serve that institution well.
Yeah like kiddies staring like zombies at their phones rather than going out and engaging in the actual world.
 

rchawk

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Meanwhile in Kinnick West.


Facing $147M deficit, ISU Athletics halts Hilton Coliseum renovation, ups ticket prices​

‘ISU views this effort as one of the top priorities and challenges facing the university’

Vanessa Miller
Vanessa Miller
AMES — Iowa State University Athletics — facing a $147 million budget deficit through 2031, or just under $25 million annually over the next six years — is rolling out painful concessions, including indefinitely postponing construction of a new wrestling practice facility and a $25 million Hilton Coliseum renovation.


“In the past two years, there have been several transformational changes in college athletics that will result in $30 million in recurring annual financial repercussions to the athletics department beginning this year,” ISU athletics reported in its 2026 budget report to the Board of Regents, made public this week.


Given the challenges, Iowa State told the board it has made several tough budget decisions, including:

  • Indefinitely postponing construction of a planned $20 million wrestling practice facility and a $25 million Hilton Coliseum renovation;
  • No longer absorbing the cost of sales tax on tickets and instead passing on that expense — about $1.5 million annually — to consumers;
  • Upping annual required donation levels for membership in the Cyclone Club by 20 percent — generating an estimated $3 million annually.
  • And mandating all sports and support units cut costs and find savings “to slow the growth of overall expenses.”
No problem. I'm sure Jamie has a plan for Iowa taxpayers to chip in- a lot.
 

rchawk

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It may be more difficult for visiting fans to get tickets to NU games. Scalpers will be happy. I think it is illegal in Evanston so be surreptitious about it.

You can always check in to a hotel in Chicago and watch the game in a bar. There are about four bars in Evanston and they fill to overflowing when the Cats are playing Miami-OH.
 

joelbc1

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Nice but I still think they went too small on this. 35K is tiny. Guess they're going for a Cameron indoor feel for football. I read somewhere that NW averaged around $35K in the old dump. You'd think more will come to a modern venue. Then again, I'm reading that ticket prices are really high.
It’s Chicago…it’s Northwestern and you think they care what others think? They raised $6B a couple of years ago (a world’s record for a school fundraiser) to pay for the new stadium amongst other things…..My in-laws are long time NW boosters and the guy they sit next to at FB games reads the Wall Street Journal during football games…and has for years. It’s a unique fan base in Evanston.
Their smaller stadium will make it more difficult for Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin and tOSU fans to attend road games there. However, the new stadium will be very upscale and modern.
 
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joelbc1

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NW has said it's going for ambiance and cutting-edge amenities in a stadium inspired by top soccer facilities. NW will finally have sellouts in a stadium this size. The renderings suggest it will be an intimate atmosphere with all the latest tech and fan-friendly conveniences. I think it's the smart way to go. Don't we know by now that bigger isn't necessarily better? And many schools that have done major remodels or built new facilities recently have reduced capacity, and some--like Arizona State--dramatically so--from around 75,000 to about 54,000.

It would seem that prying people out of their AC (or heat) at home in front of their giant-screen TVs to sit in the discomfort of a football stadium is only going to get more and more difficult. The inconvenience and significant cost of attending a game is a huge issue. A generation from now I think it's possible, if not likely, that sports will be played in TV studio settings with small live crowds . . . perhaps less than 10,000 instead of 70,000.

Regardless, I think the NW stadium will be unique and serve that institution well.
They did a nice job with Welch-Ryan, downsizing it a bit.
 

hahkize

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Meanwhile in Kinnick West.


Facing $147M deficit, ISU Athletics halts Hilton Coliseum renovation, ups ticket prices​

‘ISU views this effort as one of the top priorities and challenges facing the university’

Vanessa Miller
Vanessa Miller
AMES — Iowa State University Athletics — facing a $147 million budget deficit through 2031, or just under $25 million annually over the next six years — is rolling out painful concessions, including indefinitely postponing construction of a new wrestling practice facility and a $25 million Hilton Coliseum renovation.


“In the past two years, there have been several transformational changes in college athletics that will result in $30 million in recurring annual financial repercussions to the athletics department beginning this year,” ISU athletics reported in its 2026 budget report to the Board of Regents, made public this week.


Given the challenges, Iowa State told the board it has made several tough budget decisions, including:

  • Indefinitely postponing construction of a planned $20 million wrestling practice facility and a $25 million Hilton Coliseum renovation;
  • No longer absorbing the cost of sales tax on tickets and instead passing on that expense — about $1.5 million annually — to consumers;
  • Upping annual required donation levels for membership in the Cyclone Club by 20 percent — generating an estimated $3 million annually.
  • And mandating all sports and support units cut costs and find savings “to slow the growth of overall expenses.”

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hahkize

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Looks like this is FY22. Budgets must be way up as I thought Iowa was around $170m now ($126m in graphic).
Most current Infographic I could find re: schools that could / probably couldn't fund what was coming. This talk of P2, break-aways, etc. has been around for some time and ISU hadn't realized they may be in some trouble financially until now?
 
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joelbc1

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Northwestern. They've already finished a very nice football facility on the shore of Lake Michigan.
It’s more “than very nice”….Spectacular would be more accurate. The real estate it occupies is worth millions itself. The views of from inside the facility of Lake Michigan are amazing.
 
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Not sure about the B1G, but awhile back I remember you had to average so many fans or have a certain capacity to be FBS in football.
That requirement was dropped years ago. That's how so many of the FCS schools were able to move up when they know they will never meet that threshold.
 

Jonesy5960

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NW has said it's going for ambiance and cutting-edge amenities in a stadium inspired by top soccer facilities. NW will finally have sellouts in a stadium this size. The renderings suggest it will be an intimate atmosphere with all the latest tech and fan-friendly conveniences. I think it's the smart way to go. Don't we know by now that bigger isn't necessarily better? And many schools that have done major remodels or built new facilities recently have reduced capacity, and some--like Arizona State--dramatically so--from around 75,000 to about 54,000.

It would seem that prying people out of their AC (or heat) at home in front of their giant-screen TVs to sit in the discomfort of a football stadium is only going to get more and more difficult. The inconvenience and significant cost of attending a game is a huge issue. A generation from now I think it's possible, if not likely, that sports will be played in TV studio settings with small live crowds . . . perhaps less than 10,000 instead of 70,000.

Regardless, I think the NW stadium will be unique and serve that institution well.
I live close by and am really looking forward to attending some Iowa games there.
 

EbbyCalvin

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Build up, not out! I like the design. While not having a large capacity, that stadium will be intimate and loud.....just not for Northwestern.