OT: Plantation Education !
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Yeah..... I will pass on reading another book on race.
Boy it just never ends at that cesspool.
I’d actually be fascinated to see his take on academics and basketball at UNC.
Good coach....isn’t aware his kids aren’t going to class...yea....pshhh ...If you even weren’t aware it’s even worse! Imo . Shows you care a lot huh. Take a poo on this book too.
Plantation Education shoulda been what they named the court ...lmao!!!
Won't read the book, but if it continues to talk about the real "Carolina Way" then I could see that jersey coming down or getting tucked in a corner.
The basketball hierarchy at UNC, even when St. Dean was running the show, is pretty thin skinned and petty. There's no way they let that jersey stay where it is if RM further blackens that eye.
The basketball hierarchy at UNC, even when St. Dean was running the show, is pretty thin skinned and petty. There's no way they let that jersey stay where it is if RM further blackens that eye.
You've read a lot of books on race, have you?
Personally, I've never really bought into the idea that athletes are completely robbed of educational opportunities by the colleges they attend.
I try not to go on personal anecdotes when faced with research, but my best friend was a highly-recruited skill-position football player at a power 5 school. He had two goals, go the the league and, if that didn't work, go to dental school.
When he was handed his schedule at the beginning of his first semester, he handed it back and told the advisor it needed to be fixed as it wasn't going to get him into dental school. The schedule was changed and he never had the conversation again.
The schools could absolutely do more to ensure their athletes, especially the ones who make money for the school, receive a quality education but some responsibility needs to put on the student-athlete as well.
Then having RMs jersey hanging in the center.....Priceless
@OldasdirtDevil make/edit whatever you do to a picture/meme of that hahahahaha I’d die. Don’t forget to put the master card in there somewhere lmao! I got a great vision of what to do but I don’t know how to do it
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I wish Dirt would make a pic w/ol Roy tossing out the books to the Dean Dome crowd like diplomas.....Actually I heard Ol Roy got sick to his stomach when he learned Rashad wrote the book...#RoyThrew
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Actually, yes. I read a number of books on race and racial issues in college, you? I've had my fill of complaints and BS on the subject from spoiled athletes who get a free education and then cry about being taken advantage of. And I would argue, virtually all of the responsibility is on the student athlete to take the courses he/she wants or get the schedule changed. By college, they do have their big boy/girl pants on.
Quite a few. During college, of course, but some afterward as well.
A financially-sucessful individual's opinion about racial strife or discrimination should not be disregarded simply because of the professional status he has achieved. If anything, it should he be valued at an equal if not high level.
Basically, it is every bit as maddening if not moreso for guy who lives in a big house, drives a nice car, has a good job and who is the prototype of the American Dream to still have to endure discrimination and animosity based on the color of his skin as it is for someone who has not reached those levels. Basically, it's a reminder that you will always be looked at by your race by a certain, and possibly large, segment of the folks in this country.
Mods, please go back to work and lock what has become a travesty of a thread. It happens too often that this board gets highjacked by some amateur sociologist who wants to lecture us on for whom we should have sympathy because of their race, gender, sexual preferences, and, now, of all things, because they also happen to be wealthy.
We’ve been fair when it comes to leaving these threads open for a few days, letting people air their differences and then move on. We’re monitoring believe me. You don’t have to remind us how to do our “jobs.”
The thread will be locked later, but there’s currently a discussion on going. Remember we don’t have a Lounge for this anymore.
I wish we had it. For the time being, everyone can do us a favor and place an OT before the threat title. The titles are pretty self explanatory so if you’d like to ignore it, please do.
Colleges and universities have a responsibility to educate. Period. I do believe in personal responsibility. Very much so. But, it shouldn't end there. Institutions have responsibilities too. Especially those that receive any funding and or tax breaks etc. to exist. Any school, at any level that ignores It's responsibility to educate commits a crime against all of us and our democracy.
His post was thoughtful, measured, and respectful. That’s rare on the interwebz. Why not just discuss, instead of getting upset?
1. How could I have hijacked a thread titled "Plantation Education," in which the first reply featured statement about not wanting to read another book about race by including something about ... Race?
You seem to have confused hijacking with my writing something with which you disagree.
2. Where, in either of my posts, did I tell you or anyone else for whom you should feel sympathy?
I pointed out the importance of valuing someone's opinion. At no point did I say anything about sympathy or feeling sorry for someone based on status in a protected class.
It would be so great if their were only one race....the human race.....won't ever happen, but it would be so nice if no one gave a crap about what color your skin is or where your ancestors are from.
As far as who's responsibility it is to ensure an athlete gets the education that he or she should, I guess both sides have some responsibility, but I feel like more of it should be weighted to the athletes side. You are there, getting college for free. Take the right courses. Now. That's easy for me to say at my age, but at 18 years old, you simply don't have the same, plans or priorities, or the experience to let hindsight tell you what you "should" have done.
As far as who's responsibility it is to ensure an athlete gets the education that he or she should, I guess both sides have some responsibility, but I feel like more of it should be weighted to the athletes side. You are there, getting college for free. Take the right courses. Now. That's easy for me to say at my age, but at 18 years old, you simply don't have the same, plans or priorities, or the experience to let hindsight tell you what you "should" have done.
I agree with you about both sides sharing the responsibility of ensuring a student-athlete receives a quality education.
The school should probably shoulder an equal amount, if not more, seeing as the athlete is an 18 year-old who'd possibly spent the past 5 years being told that his future is in sports and he just needs to stay eligible. It's hard to unteach that mentality in a couple months, especially when that athlete was highly recruited to play basketball at a school like UNC or another basketball powerhouse. That means that the opportunity to earn a very good living playing professional basketball is on the table, so the kid who has his academic mind right without any help from coaches, administrators, etc is probably few and far between. Like you said, it's a lot easier to draw from experience when you have a lifetime's worth of it than it is when you're a college freshman, so I feel it's up to those charged with helping these kids once they get on campus to impart some of that knowledge.
I would love the first part of your post to be true, as well, but unfortunately that is simply not the way of this country at the present time and it may never reach that point.
the athlete is an 18 year-old who'd possibly spent the past 5 years being told that his future is in sports and he just needs to stay eligible.
That's kind of what I was getting at about easy for me to say that at my age without having experience or hindsight. It shouldn't be real hard though to look at draft boards and listen to what your coach is telling you to be able to see if it looks like you are going to have a career in sports, or if you better start studying. I think Bolden is a perfect example of that . I'm sure he came into Duke thinking one and done, but now, if I were him, I would be thinking I better come up with plan B just in case
@OldasdirtDevil make/edit whatever you do to a picture/meme of that hahahahaha I’d die. Don’t forget to put the master card in there somewhere lmao! I got a great vision of what to do but I don’t know how to do it
I tried to add in what you wanted, Ipsych, and the book throwing (Plantation Education) for you, Hart.
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I tried to add in what you wanted, Ipsych, and the book throwing (Plantation Education) for you, Hart.
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That is mean what you did to Roy.....
You are:
A. An A hole
B. Not finny!!
Ahhhahahah that’s great man! I don’t know how you do it , but I’m jealous. I’d have fun knowing / doing this ....occupy my whole day for a while! Broken armI tried to add in what you wanted, Ipsych, and the book throwing (Plantation Education) for you, Hart.
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Tryna think of small other detail stuff that could be added lmao Maybe Tyler H getting hit by the book with the bloody nose? Hahahah Numbers om the shot clock to ? The back of the guys holding the flag to something? Vacated banners? I don’t know
Maybe Tyler H getting hit by the book with the bloody nose? Hahahah Numbers om the shot clock to ? The back of the guys holding the flag to something? Vacated banners? I don’t know
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I tried to add in what you wanted, Ipsych, and the book throwing (Plantation Education) for you, Hart.
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Priceless Dirt!!!! You are UNBELIEVABLE my friend.....God bless you and your family as well....
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