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You never know in a Final, but if Villanova wins, they will have won 2 titles in 3 seasons. And, had a #1 seed last year. Wright will be a lock for the HOF and what a great program he has built.

Gotta say that at that point, Jay Wright is the best coach in CBB by far right now. And, he's done it in a really effective and interesting way. Ignoring the one-and-done talent.

Go back and look at the top 100 recruiting lists the past 4 seasons. Duke completely dominates 'Nova every season. The "D" shows up far more often and far higher than the "V." 'Nova's recruits generally range from the high teens to the 80's or so. But, the difference is, they don't lose those recruits to the NBA after a year and they develop those players.

Four years ago, Duke had 4 players in the top 20 and won the title in 2015. Nova had Bridges at 82, and Booth at 92 (in ESPN's rankings). They've had 3 #1 seeds, two FFs, and they could have two titles after Monday night.
 

Arlene

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If Duke was to go outside the family for K’s replacement, would love to see Jay Wright come to Duke. He is used to pretty heavy media attention by being in the Phily sports media market, and he can flat out coach. If the NBA changes the OAD rules, would be a great fit at Duke since he wouldn’t have to go after the top 10-15 players each year since most will go directly to NBA.

Doubt the above will happen, as I can see him going to coach in the NBA but one can dream. Tony Bennett would be another good choice if he’s able to actually get to the Final 4 over the next couple years before K retires.
 
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tclark6

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If Duke was to go outside the family for K’s replacement, would love to see Jay Wright come to Duke. He is used to pretty heavy media attention by being in the Phily sports media market, and he can flat out coach. If the NBA changes the OAD rules, would be a great fit at Duke since he wouldn’t have to go after the top 10-15 players each year since most will go directly to NBA.

Doubt the above will happen, as I can see him going to coach in the NBA but one can dream. Tony Bennett would be another good choice if he’s able to actually get to the Final 4 over the next couple years before K retires.
Jay Wright would be a great option if Duke decided to go outside if the family! I would hate to see one of our assistants replace K and come nowhere close continuing the Duke tradition...that would be hard to watch and hard to handle...still don't want to imagine Duke without K!
 

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I could see Jay Wright as a DUKE coach, but I don't think that Tony Bennett would ever be considered for our next coach. That boring style of basketball would not fly at Duke. I know I don't want it, and I sure that I am not the only one!!!
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think I read all five starters red shirted also? Anyone know if that’s correct? So they have been in the program for a long time....we don’t really red shirt anyone...and ones who don’t play early usually transfer...that’s our biggest problem I believe...we can turn over the roster year after year...but we can’t get good players to stay and wait for their time...one of the perils of the amount of talent we can attract....guys want to play....
 
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K-oach Q

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Why would Wright come to Duke, he's building his own dynasty right where he's at. As for Bennett.....PASS.
I’m there with you....I’d love to have us play defense like Bennett but I continue to believe that style can’t win it all in March....can’t score in the 50s for six straight games....somewhere you have to score...
 

dukiejay

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Four of their five starters have redshirted. Only one of them was a team decision, though. (Brunson is the starter who hasn’t redshirted.)

Mikal Bridges came in as a 6’7” skinny freshman. Villanova decided to redshirt him.

Paschall had to sit out a transfer season from Fordham. Booth redshirted a season because of injury. Spellman was out last year because of an academic issue.
 
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skysdad

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Jay Wright would be a great option if Duke decided to go outside if the family! I would hate to see one of our assistants replace K and come nowhere close continuing the Duke tradition...that would be hard to watch and hard to handle...still don't want to imagine Duke without K!


Who says Jay Wright would want to leave Nova. He has built that team just like Coach K did Duke. After Coach K starting winning big was KU, UCLA, Indiana or anywhere did Coach K have a desire to go there . No he didn't. Duke was his program. Nova has become Wright's. OFC
 

dukiejay

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Who says Jay Wright would want to leave Nova. He has built that team just like Coach K did Duke. After Coach K starting winning big was KU, UCLA, Indiana or anywhere did Coach K have a desire to go there . No he didn't. Duke was his program. Nova has become Wright's. OFC

And Wright isn’t a spring chicken anymore. He’ll be 57 when next season starts. If we assume Coach K goes for another three or four years that puts him at 60. I’m not sure Duke is looking at someone they most likely need to replace because of another retirement within a decade.
 

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Jay Wright is a great coach. He will not coach at Duke. It will stay in the family. Also, who wants to follow a legend.

Wright doesn’t attract top talent because they have so many upperclassmen that fell in the 30 to 85 range. Top recruits want playing time and they are not going to get it at Nova
 

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You never know in a Final, but if Villanova wins, they will have won 2 titles in 3 seasons. And, had a #1 seed last year. Wright will be a lock for the HOF and what a great program he has built.

Gotta say that at that point, Jay Wright is the best coach in CBB by far right now. And, he's done it in a really effective and interesting way. Ignoring the one-and-done talent.

Go back and look at the top 100 recruiting lists the past 4 seasons. Duke completely dominates 'Nova every season. The "D" shows up far more often and far higher than the "V." 'Nova's recruits generally range from the high teens to the 80's or so. But, the difference is, they don't lose those recruits to the NBA after a year and they develop those players.

Four years ago, Duke had 4 players in the top 20 and won the title in 2015. Nova had Bridges at 82, and Booth at 92 (in ESPN's rankings). They've had 3 #1 seeds, two FFs, and they could have two titles after Monday night.
Ignoring the OAD talent is a complete misconception. Just like Roy “ignores” them because they aren’t coming to his school. Not arguing that he is a great coach but he has even said that he wishes he could get those players. You think he would have turned down Anyone in our starting 5?https://www.zagsblog.com/2018/03/14...ove-one-dones-coach-k-john-calipari-best-job/
 

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Great coach. There is a great story on him that talks about Nova started recruiting the 5 star guys after some success and how it wasn’t beneficial for their program because the 5 star guys they recruited weren’t the right guys for their program. The key here is guys that are right for his program not simply where they are rated.
 
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pisgah101

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I never dreamed he was 56. He'll be over 60 when K retires so he ain't going to be here
 

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Who says Jay Wright would want to leave Nova. He has built that team just like Coach K did Duke. After Coach K starting winning big was KU, UCLA, Indiana or anywhere did Coach K have a desire to go there . No he didn't. Duke was his program. Nova has become Wright's. OFC
I agree, just because I think he's a good option doesn't mean I think he'll come...he has no reason to! He is Nova basketball and heck if I come get ran out of town by a bunch of Crazies if I didn't live up to K! I'm just glad we weren't on the receiving end of the a$$ whupping Nova gave Kansas last night! We've been there done that!
 

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And Wright isn’t a spring chicken anymore. He’ll be 57 when next season starts. If we assume Coach K goes for another three or four years that puts him at 60. I’m not sure Duke is looking at someone they most likely need to replace because of another retirement within a decade.
We're unlikely to follow K w/ another future HoFer who is here for even 20 years. I could see the next hire as someone who is only around for 5 years or so, taking the pressure off the next guy.

It won't be Wright, though.
 

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Ignoring the OAD talent is a complete misconception. Just like Roy “ignores” them because they aren’t coming to his school. Not arguing that he is a great coach but he has even said that he wishes he could get those players. You think he would have turned down Anyone in our starting 5?https://www.zagsblog.com/2018/03/14...ove-one-dones-coach-k-john-calipari-best-job/

This is a misnomer as the facts bear out. Of course every coach wants talent. Coaches say stuff all the time that doesn't actually reflect what they think. The good ones are nothing if they are not PC.

But the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Wright largely ignores OAD players unless they are in his wheelhouse (near 'Nova geographically or a guard / perimeter shooter who fits their program). When you look at top 10 talent / potential OAD players recruited the past 4-5 seasons, 'Nova made only 4-5 offers to players who fit that category. Most of those were geographically nearby (PA, DE, NY). And, 'Nova made very few strong recruiting pushes for those guys (Arguably the strongest was this year with Reddish). When you compare that to Duke, UNC, Kansas, UK, AZ, those schools all made 3-4-5 times the number of offers to top 10/OAD players over the past 4-5 seasons (even since 'Nova wan the title). It's just the facts. It's no comparison.
 
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youngman42

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I certainly would love to have Jay Wright - who wouldn't? But it is absurd to think he would leave 'Nova and the program he built for Duke or any other school in the nation.

Why would he? He's built a great program and legacy. Been there 18 years. He's not likely to leave unless his teams and program falls apart and becomes a middling team in the B East. Which is not likely.
 

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Has K.ever given any hints how much longer he wants to keep going? cant see it being longer than age 75,but you never know...his hair may start to get some grey in it by then!
 
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Jay Wright has re-built the program at Nova and taken it to an elite level. He will not leave nova for any college program. It makes no sense. An nba job is the only possible enticement for him to leave.
 

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think I read all five starters red shirted also? Anyone know if that’s correct? So they have been in the program for a long time....we don’t really red shirt anyone...and ones who don’t play early usually transfer...that’s our biggest problem I believe...we can turn over the roster year after year...but we can’t get good players to stay and wait for their time...one of the perils of the amount of talent we can attract....guys want to play....

Let's see what next year holds. This year's team was talented and experienced. If Brunson and Bridges go pro, as expected, that will really take a bite out of their roster. That Di(never be able to spell his name)venzo kid is a RS soph. And Wright was shocked by the notion that he might be a first round pick. Which means Wright has him inked in as next year's go to player. If he were to go pro, Wright's team next year might be in some trouble.
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Remember, K thought Duke would have Luke, and probably Frank Jackson, back on this year's team. If Allen had played to expectations last year, he'd have been in the NBA this year, and Luke would have been Duke's starting SG. Probably providing more, and more consistent, 3 point shooting. Frank would have been here instead of Duval, also providing more 3 point shooting.
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For all the problems this year's team had, we tend to forget that the perimeter was nothing like what K probably expected it to be at Christmas 2 years ago. It was assembled, essentially, on the fly last May. Before we anoint Jay Wright, let's see him do the same.
 

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Great coach. There is a great story on him that talks about Nova started recruiting the 5 star guys after some success and how it wasn’t beneficial for their program because the 5 star guys they recruited weren’t the right guys for their program. The key here is guys that are right for his program not simply where they are rated.

Eh. That is what Tony Bennett has done. Look, if you can ID the perfect players, great. Roy had a great run, Tony had a decent run, and Wright has hit it out of the park.
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But look at what had to happen for that success: They had to id guys that played well in college, but that all had some flaw that prevented them from being NBA early entry candidates. Roy did it with Hanstravel, and then Pinson, Berry, and Hicks. Well, Pinson, Maye and Hicks basically pulled a Zoubs and Lance Thomas, wherein they came on down the stretch run of a title year. Berry exceeded HS expectations but stayed in school. Maye WILDLY exceeded HS expectations, and the NBA wants no part of him as an early entry candidate. Maye is the perfect college recruit.
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Nova benefitted from the weakest MBB field in forever. And they had to have guys stay and outperform their HS ranking. That isn't sustainable. Consistently finding diamonds in the rough, AND having them stay 3+ years, is impossible. Gary Williams won a title at UMD with that exact type of player. And ended his career as a guy whose team struggled to consistently make the NCAAT.
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That Di-whatever guy won the title for them last night. And Wright has him inked in as next year's go to leader. More than that, Wright has it carved in stone. He was shocked, and somewhat dumbfounded, at the notion that the RS soph could be a first round pick THIS year. If that happens, Nova's team is blown up.
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And all that needs to happen next is a few of these non-elite HS players to fail to exceed expectations. Not fail to MEET expectations, fail to EXCEED them. Which will happen. Then Nova is just another team in a conf no one really cares about any more that has missed a few NCAATs. Meet Gary Williams.
 

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Get your point but to describe the Nova players as non-elite and diamonds in the rough is a bit naive. They are all in the top 100 in the country which given the number of players playing BB in the US would make them of elite status...just not in the top 20 ( decided by recruiting websites i might add, fodder for another thread). What elevates them is the extra time they get in the weight room, at practice with a great coach, working with players for multiple years to gain experience, trust and understanding. A mixture of OAD talent and then the elite players who stay 2-3 years would be ideal. Easy to say, tough to execute I suspect.
 

dukiejay

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Get your point but to describe the Nova players as non-elite and diamonds in the rough is a bit naive. They are all in the top 100 in the country which given the number of players playing BB in the US would make them of elite status...just not in the top 20 ( decided by recruiting websites i might add, fodder for another thread). What elevates them is the extra time they get in the weight room, at practice with a great coach, working with players for multiple years to gain experience, trust and understanding. A mixture of OAD talent and then the elite players who stay 2-3 years would be ideal. Easy to say, tough to execute I suspect.

I think it’s pretty clear what he means by non-elite. That means guys who aren’t on the NBA’s radar....not that they’re scrubs. For every Mikal Bridges, there’s dozens of kids who never become starters, let alone NBA prospects.

And he makes good points about the ‘luck’ you need to have. Jay Wright isn’t recruiting any different than he was 10 years ago....and from 2010 through 2015 — a six-year span — Nova never advanced past the first weekend.

Wright is a great coach....one of the best. I don’t think he’s cracked some secret code that never been discovered before, though.
 

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I’m just enammored with what he has done. He’s only one of three active coaches with multiple national titles and he did it at a school that isn’t a blue blood or has the media hype machine around him.

Wright has had a combined three NBA first round draft picks in his entire time at Nova and he just won a second national title.

Who else has done that?
 

ticket2ride04

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I think it’s pretty clear what he means by non-elite. That means guys who aren’t on the NBA’s radar....not that they’re scrubs. For every Mikal Bridges, there’s dozens of kids who never become starters, let alone NBA prospects.

And he makes good points about the ‘luck’ you need to have. Jay Wright isn’t recruiting any different than he was 10 years ago....and from 2010 through 2015 — a six-year span — Nova never advanced past the first weekend.

Wright is a great coach....one of the best. I don’t think he’s cracked some secret code that never been discovered before, though.
He’s gotten better but not significantly. Others have said it. College basketball is down. Great players are gone after one year now. Any of the championship teams from 2009(UNC year) and older easily best the last 6-7 Champs on a regular basis. 2006 Duke (IMO) beats ‘15 Duke. The depth and skill was so much better in CBB 10 years ago. 2017 was magical for UNC fans but I don’t think for a second they were an all-time team. 2009 UNC beats that squad by 30. ‘99 Duke beats either Nova team like a rented mule.
 

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You never know in a Final, but if Villanova wins, they will have won 2 titles in 3 seasons. And, had a #1 seed last year. Wright will be a lock for the HOF and what a great program he has built.

Gotta say that at that point, Jay Wright is the best coach in CBB by far right now. And, he's done it in a really effective and interesting way. Ignoring the one-and-done talent.

Go back and look at the top 100 recruiting lists the past 4 seasons. Duke completely dominates 'Nova every season. The "D" shows up far more often and far higher than the "V." 'Nova's recruits generally range from the high teens to the 80's or so. But, the difference is, they don't lose those recruits to the NBA after a year and they develop those players.

Four years ago, Duke had 4 players in the top 20 and won the title in 2015. Nova had Bridges at 82, and Booth at 92 (in ESPN's rankings). They've had 3 #1 seeds, two FFs, and they could have two titles after Monday night.
That's an interesting point. Perhaps recruits should be graded after their careers based on how many good years they gave the program. Because a number 50 recruit for 4 years could be better than a number 10 recruit for one year. That may not make sense, but it got me thinking.
 
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