Lebron blocks Tyus; Tyus gets revenge
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Awesome! I don't remember Tyus dunking much, but he flushed that one down with Lebron bearing down on him! Love it!
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Did Lebron just stare Tyus down after the block?! I like Lebron, but that’s a putz move! Glad Tyus got revenge. I miss Tyus also!
I’ve got no problem with Lebron stairing down Tyus after that block and was glad to see Tyus give it right back at him. Folks trying to ***** about Lebron for no reason at all. Imagine that was a message to Kyrie about leaving him and Cleveland as well and used another Duke PG to send the message to and through.
More importantly, Tyus got the win as the primary PG. He has holes in his game, but he doesn’t hold his team back.
Big imagination if you really believe your last sentence. I agree with your first sentence though.
Not sure Lebron knows who Tyus is. Didn't he call him Tyler Jones afterwards? Maybe he was messing with him.
And yeah, might sound crazy, but Tyus might be my top pick for "Guy I would have loved to see at Duke a second year."
And yeah, might sound crazy, but Tyus might be my top pick for "Guy I would have loved to see at Duke a second year."
In an interview prior to the game Lebron was speaking on how the Wolves aren't young anymore.. "outside of Wiggins and Tyler Jones.."
We didn't get a 2nd year of Tyus but we get his brother now, who may be better than Tyus...so great being a Duke fan.
Also great being a Timberwolves and Duke fan right now, as I'm loving watching Tyus start in place of injured Teague. I know there are other Wolves fans here, to me, eye test, the team just plays better when Tyus is on the court. His stat lines don't reflect him being superior to Teague but the ball doesn't stop in his hands unless he's making a positive move to drive or shoot, Teague loves to just dribble. It seems the ball movement is contagious and the whole team is moving it better and outside of a dud against Brooklyn they're playing great.
Reading a bit over on RealGM about the Wolves, and it seems that Tyus is near the top of the league in a lot of the more advanced metrics among PGs, whereas Teague is most assuredly not.
A lot of Wolves fans seem to be coming around. Personally, I cannot imagine that Teague is really a better PG than Tyus.
Wolves fan here, too. Tyus has certainly exceeded my expectations. He might be a better fit for this version of the Wolves than Teague. He's not a better player, but he fits well. I wish I could give Tyus a little bit of Teague's outside shooting, though. That's the one area where Tyus struggles some. If he could knock down the jump shot a little more consistently he would be really good in this role.
They're quite different as players. I've been pleasantly surprised at how well Tyus has slid into this role. Like I said, a little more consistency with his jump shot would go a long ways. What's made him fit in so well, IMO, is that he's not looking to score like Teague.
But he's improving (mostly) on his shooting, DJ! Look at these stats for Tyus' first 3 years (and still counting) in the NBA.
2015/16 2point% .388 3point% .302 eFG% .410
2016\17 .454 .356 .486
2017/18 .531 .333 .519
He's improved across the board, except for a slight slip this year (so far) in 3 point shooting. I do think he's got a good chance to get to 37 or 38 percent from 3 within the next year or so.
Now here are Teague's for his first 3 years
2009/10 .426 .219 .412
2010/11 .449 .375 .467
2011/12 .514 .342 .514
Not too much difference from Tyus. It's a process.
Now Teague's for his last 3 years
2015/16 .454 .400 .495
2016/17 .475 .357 .492
2017/18 .483 .375 .509
And in Teague's 5th year in the NBA when he averaged a career high of 16.5 ppg he shot only .329% from behind the arc. Also in his 6th year when he averaged his 2nd career ppg of 15.9 his 3 point % was only .343. So, Teague is not light years ahead of Tyus as a perimeter shooter...but still better as of now. But Tyus is improving.
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Watching that clip reminded me of something my dad always told me....
"Son, what goes around comes around."
"Son, what goes around comes around."
And those numbers can be a little skewed, because the who shoots more is usually going to have a slightly lower percentage. And when I talk about Tyus and his outside shot, I'm not necessarily talking about from deep. I'm a long-suffering Wolves fan who watched Ricky Rubio never form any semblance of a jump shot....Tyus becoming more consistent with his 18- to 20-footer will go a long ways in him becoming a 'good' player in this league.
But, as your stats show, we can't always judge a book by its cover, or before the book has been written. Tyus is improving with each season thus far, as he should, and I don't think we're even close to seeing his best.
Agree 100%.
I think Tyus has focused on the defensive side of things and strength more than anything thus far. I have little doubt his outside shot will improve dramatically in the next year or two. Kid is hungry.
The chances of him better than Tyus are pretty slim,but I hope your right!
In terms of being clutch and the results of the team with Tyus, yes will be tough to surpass. But from what I've seen of Tre in High School, I think he will enter with a skills level above that of Tyus.
Either way, he's going to be very good for us, and to get both Jones boys is amazing as a Duke fan from MN.
And yeah, the more you shoot the more attention you're going to garner (provided of course you're capable at all). But on the flip side, shooting only occasionally doesn't allow a player to establish a rhythm either.
I haven't seen the Timberwolves play this year (only a clip here and there) so I can't use the eyeball test like you DJ
Hopefully, Tyus is doing enough to get another contract from Minnesota.
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Not if your metric for "better" is winning. I'd say chances are not above 50%, but certainly not slim.The chances of him better than Tyus are pretty slim,but I hope your right!
This is a great point. That's why I've been the resident Tyus promoter on DI. I'm sure others read my enthusiasm as homer logic, but I am just reacting to what I see of him in games. I've watched Teague too. The stats and the eye test suggest Teague commands more attention on the court, and is a better individual player. Even so, Tyus plays the game with a certain feel that Teague just doesn't have. I just feel safer with Tyus out there. It's an awareness thing.
I'm a Cavs fan, but ultimately I would love to see the Wolves do great, mainly because it would make my year if the Cavs saw anyone but the Warriors in the finals.
Is there any traction to the rumors of the Wolves listening to trade offers for Andrew Wiggins?? Seems to make sense, Wiggins hasn't progressed at the rate he was supposed to, and is having a terrible year. The Wolves already have 2 studs, and their biggest weakness is depth. Seems crazy to give up on Wiggins this early, and I'm aware he just got the maximum contract (which at the moment, looks like a horrible deal.) If the Wolves can turn Wiggins into 3 rotation guys, I think they can compete with the Rockets/Spurs/Warriors.
Is there any traction to the rumors of the Wolves listening to trade offers for Andrew Wiggins?? Seems to make sense, Wiggins hasn't progressed at the rate he was supposed to, and is having a terrible year. The Wolves already have 2 studs, and their biggest weakness is depth. Seems crazy to give up on Wiggins this early, and I'm aware he just got the maximum contract (which at the moment, looks like a horrible deal.) If the Wolves can turn Wiggins into 3 rotation guys, I think they can compete with the Rockets/Spurs/Warriors.
Rumor up here is he wants to go to Toronto,it's his home town,has always stated that he wants to play for the Raptors,i don't see it happening any time soon,but we'll see
Figured, I wouldn't move him. Even if they add a few pieces, I think they are years away from being a championship contender, I'd rather bet on Wiggins making a leap.
I'm sure that Tre's basketball skills and IQ are right up there with Tyus,I was thinking more of the Genetic factor...does he have "THE STONES!"
Oh, you were talking about Duval being better than Tyus? In that case, I agree, his chances are slim. I thought you were saying Tyus would likely never be better than Teague for the T-Wolves. Sorry. I need more coffee, eh?
No, I give Tre about a 2% chance of being a better college player than Stones. That said, Tre may exceed Tyus in the NBA because of that wingspan and speed. They're both awesome in their own way.