LaVar Ball: "White Guys" cost UCLA title..

[Buzzooka Joe]

So, LaVar Ball (father of UCLA's Lonzo Ball) was quoted, saying: "Realistically you can't win no championship with 3 white guys because the foot speed is too slow".. Mr. Ball was obviously referring to the 3 white players that start for UCLA (I guess we should ignore the fact that his son is half-white).

I'm guessing LaVar did not watch the 2010 tournament.. I recall Duke winning the National Championship, with Brian Zoubek, Kyle Singler, & John scheyer as starters, and Mason & Miles Plumlee coming off the bench.

This guy is not helping his kids, by making comments like this.

*EDIT: Forgot to add, Duke doesn't beat the "slow white boys" Sam Dekker & Frank Kaminsky of Wisconsin, to win the 2015 National Championship without the 16 points they got from "slow white boy" Grayson Allen.

 

[DukeDenver]

I vote not to respond to anything that man says. That's just what he wants. Plus, the Plumlees transcend any sort of race designation. They are simply: Plumlee, a race unto themselves.

 

[Lavar5150]

I guess it's the white half of Lonzo that allowed Fox to blow by him all game on the way to 39 points.

 

[Tim1515]

You have to feel bad for the white American basketball player. They are stereotyped and discriminated against and most people find no fault in its judgement. Worse...if you are good...you are hated and picked apart.

I say that in some amount of jest since they haven't suffered a tenth of what many others have in this country...but it is amazing to me how accepted it is in our society to rip them...especially by Caucasian fans!

 

[IPSYCHOSIS]

I swear and white people are racist? If a white man would have said you can't win no natty with 3 black guys the whole world would know about it in less then an hour! There be protests ..national guard. Etc he be fired! chaos !! Lmao ..what happens when you cater to minority's for 8 years and the tit finally pops out their mouth!! Trump!! Lmao fun..I k ow it's not really racist but turn the table and it would be lmao !! This guy needs to shut up everybody's gonna hate his sons because of his big asz mouth ! I swear I want to say so much but Ima bite my tounge!

 

[VaBlueDevil33]

He is a real dipshit

#whitelivesmatter

 

[smithn]

Maybe he should have sent his son to a HBCU

 

[Showenuff]

Va, you finally hit a nail right on the head that time.

 

[TRU CANE]

I swear and white people are racist? If a white man would have said you can't win no natty with 3 black guys the whole world would know about it in less then an hour! There be protests ..national guard. Etc he be fired! chaos !! Lmao ..what happens when you cater to minority's for 8 years and the tit finally pops out their mouth!! Trump!! Lmao fun..I k ow it's not really racist but turn the table and it would be lmao !! This guy needs to shut up everybody's gonna hate his sons because of his big asz mouth ! I swear I want to say so much but Ima bite my tounge!

I think you should let it ALL out. Thank you in advance.

 

[hart2chesson]

I swear and white people are racist? If a white man would have said you can't win no natty with 3 black guys the whole world would know about it in less then an hour! There be protests ..national guard. Etc he be fired! chaos !! Lmao ..what happens when you cater to minority's for 8 years and the tit finally pops out their mouth!! Trump!! Lmao fun..I k ow it's not really racist but turn the table and it would be lmao !! This guy needs to shut up everybody's gonna hate his sons because of his big asz mouth ! I swear I want to say so much but Ima bite my tounge!

IPSYCH spot on, the media would give this SO MUCH MORE play if it had been reversed..

OFC

 

[CRAZIE4LIFE]

I somewhat enjoy the guy, kinda like the people around you at walmart....they just make you feel better about yourself.

 

[DukeRulesBasketball]

You have to feel bad for the white American basketball player. They are stereotyped and discriminated against and most people find no fault in its judgement. Worse...if you are good...you are hated and picked apart.

See Grayson Allen, JJ Redick, and Laettner!

 

[RanDEVILman]

To be fair...People did say stuff like that about black players...Not really all that long ago. I believe the great Adolph Ripped was in that camp. That said, this is a different era obviously and this guy is quite ignorant/sociopathic.

 

[sheyduke]

He's a douche that is putting a really big target on his sons when they make it to the league.
I can actually see some flagrant man size fouls being used on his son for that comment.

 

[germantondevil]

He is so knowledgeable I mean white boys are slow as crap. I wish K would quit recruiting them. Lavar you are a genius.

 

[RanDEVILman]

See Grayson Allen, JJ Redick, and Laettner!

Nah...That's just because they play at Duke, had nothing to do with race...

 

[sheyduke]

To be fair...People did say stuff like that about black players...Not really all that long ago. I believe the great Adolph Ripped was in that camp. That said, this is a different era obviously and this guy is quite ignorant/sociopathic.

Huh? Give me one example of not to long ago. And if your referring to " Adolph Rupp" his comments were back in what the 1960?
This is now. You really need to re-watch " Glory Road" if that's where you are getting your quotes from.

 

[DukeRulesBasketball]

Nah...That's just because they play at Duke, had nothing to do with race...

Sometimes I do wonder though but yea a big part of it is they play at Duke but sometimes I can't help but feel that Race might play a small part in it as well.

 

[dukiejay]

Up until a couple weeks ago I was thinking Lavar Ball was a genius, in a sick and twisted kind of way. But it's just getting old now. Seriously....shut up, dude.

 

[sheyduke]

Nah...That's just because they play at Duke, had nothing to do with race...

Since your up on what was said. Watch Jalen Rose's comments about Christian Lattner.

 

[DukeRulesBasketball]

I wonder if Lavar actually means the crap he says or if it is some marketing gimmick. After all Lonzo has been on a lot of the sports shows here recently. Either way Lavar is a complete tool!

 

[dukiejay]

I wonder if Lavar actually means the crap he says or if it is some marketing gimmick. After all Lonzo has been on a lot of the sports shows here recently. Either way Lavar is a complete tool!

Like I said above, a few weeks back that's what I thought it was. He was kind of genius about it too. Now I think the crap has gone to his head and he's turning himself into a joke.

 

[germantondevil]

He was such an imposing and super quick player himself. I mean check out his pedigree. If you can find any.

 

[Buzzooka Joe]

I forgot to add to the original post, Duke doesn't beat the "slow white boys" Sam Dekker & Frank Kaminsky of Wisconsin, to win the 2015 National Championship without the 16 points they got from "slow white boy" Grayson Allen.

 

[ScheyerIsOnFire30]

How does Alford put up with this guy for possibly 4 more years? This racist dad not only took shots at players of his team, but also his son. If Alford has any cahonas he cuts scholarships and wipes his hands clean with lavar.

 

[DevilDJ]

Like you guys , I can enjoy a certain amount of "sports porn." But this guy? I'm sorry. Can't do it. If you're gonna be obnoxious at least be entertaining or amusing. Something. As soon as I see his name or face , I quickly scroll past it or divert my attention from the tv screen. I'm already pizzed at myself for taking time to write about 'im.

 

[CRAZIE4LIFE]

I know it's different sport, but Jordy Nelson and Christian McCaffrey are pretty awesome

 

[MyDudeG_rivals]

How does Alford put up with this guy for possibly 4 more years? This racist dad not only took shots at players of his team, but also his son. If Alford has any cahonas he cuts scholarships and wipes his hands clean with lavar.

Yup and the worst part about the situation for Alford is that the best of the Ball brothers is already done at UCLA. Gelo is a 3 star recruit and I'm not a fan of Melo's game at all. If there were two more Lonzo's on the way then putting up with the dad's nonsense might at least be bearable. Next few years are going to be brutal for Alford if Lavar keeps this up.

 

[RanDEVILman]

Since your up on what was said. Watch Jalen Rose's comments about Christian Lattner.

Sorry to ruffle your feathers shey. Both of my posts were supposed to be somewhat sarcastic. I know it was the 60s, and no I'm not just quoting a movie. In fact in college I wrote a few papers about the history of desegregation in basketball, so I'm not an expert but I am an educated adult with a master's in history so I have some idea what I'm talking about. It wasn't that long ago in all of history, but it was a long time ago, which is what I said at the end of my post. I don't agree with Balls comments they are obviously stupid. But stuff like this has been said before and it will be said again in some way. Race is for better and worse an interesting part of basketballs history. As for my comment about the guys being from Duke, I was definitely being sarcastic there. I think one of the other posters picked up on it. I am usually sarcastic in my posts, which is a problem on a message board. But that's just how I talk about things.

 

[LouisiAaron]

He is a real dipshit

#whitelivesmatter

you need to stop. white live matter hahahaha. get outta here. Yes white players can win with the right coach and system. athletically there's no comparison between the races. Duke has had some really good white players that are very athletic lately though. That's not the norm. Pump ya breaks homeboy

 

[sheyduke]

Sorry to ruffle your feathers shey. Both of my posts were supposed to be somewhat sarcastic. I know it was the 60s, and no I'm not just quoting a movie. In fact in college I wrote a few papers about the history of desegregation in basketball, so I'm not an expert but I am an educated adult with a master's in history so I have some idea what I'm talking about. It wasn't that long ago in all of history, but it was a long time ago, which is what I said at the end of my post. I don't agree with Balls comments they are obviously stupid. But stuff like this has been said before and it will be said again in some way. Race is for better and worse an interesting part of basketballs history. As for my comment about the guys being from Duke, I was definitely being sarcastic there. I think one of the other posters picked up on it. I am usually sarcastic in my posts, which is a problem on a message board. But that's just how I talk about things.

No your good. I hate stupid comments by individuals. Race is important in all history because it plays a part throughout all of history. I'm racially mixed so it doesn't bother me at all. Stupid things are always said. But you look at the greats in every sport and I don't think they were worried about color but more of becoming great. That's why I said the statement about the flagrant man fouls when he gets to the league.
Rose's comments are what ball should read.

 

[dukephysics]

you need to stop. white live matter hahahaha. get outta here. Yes white players can win with the right coach and system. athletically there's no comparison between the races. Duke has had some really good white players that are very athletic lately though. That's not the norm. Pump ya breaks homeboy

Really?

 

[TheDude1]

I swear and white people are racist? If a white man would have said you can't win no natty with 3 black guys the whole world would know about it in less then an hour! There be protests ..national guard. Etc he be fired! chaos !! Lmao ..what happens when you cater to minority's for 8 years and the tit finally pops out their mouth!! Trump!! Lmao fun..I k ow it's not really racist but turn the table and it would be lmao !! This guy needs to shut up everybody's gonna hate his sons because of his big asz mouth ! I swear I want to say so much but Ima bite my tounge!

Listen, I don't give a **** if other fan bases want to be stupid; DUKE FANS shouldn't be.

Let me break this down for you:

Lavar Ball is an idiot who should be completely ignored, as we've seen many times ("I could beat Jordan!"), and now seems like a bit of a racist.

EVERYONE IN THE WORLD IS CALLING HIM OUT FOR THIS. EVERYONE. EEEEVVVVEEERRRRYYYYOOONNNNNEEEE. Every. One.

This has nothing to do with white people being racist.

There would not be riots or national guard called out over some dumbass helicopter dad of some kid saying some moderately racist thing, especially a thing that has gotten hinted at for years and years in discussion of basketball.

This has nothing to do with "minority's" (sic) being catered to and the tit popping out of their mouth, whatever in the **** that means.

Why do people go COMPLETELY ******* retarded about race? Like... completely?

Some jackass nobody said a moderately racist thing. Everyone is saying he is a jackass nobody who said a moderately racist thing, and that he should shut up. There is no greater social message here, and it is not some goddamned political touchpoint.



****. I really expect more from Duke fans. DUKE FANS. FFS.

 

[sheyduke]

Listen, I don't give a **** if other fan bases want to be stupid; DUKE FANS shouldn't be.

Let me break this down for you:

Lavar Ball is an idiot who should be completely ignored, as we've seen many times ("I could beat Jordan!"), and now seems like a bit of a racist.

EVERYONE IN THE WORLD IS CALLING HIM OUT FOR THIS. EVERYONE. EEEEVVVVEEERRRRYYYYOOONNNNNEEEE. Every. One.

This has nothing to do with white people being racist.

There would not be riots or national guard called out over some dumbass helicopter dad of some kid saying some moderately racist thing, especially a thing that has gotten hinted at for years and years in discussion of basketball.

This has nothing to do with "minority's" (sic) being catered to and the tit popping out of their mouth, whatever in the **** that means.

Why do people go COMPLETELY ****ing retarded about race? Like... completely?

Some jackass nobody said a moderately racist thing. Everyone is saying he is a jackass nobody. There is no greater social message here, and it is not some goddamned political touchpoint.



****. I really expect more from Duke fans. DUKE FANS. FFS.

Switch to decaf brother

 

[TheDude1]

Switch to decaf brother

I can't today... got so little sleep, coffee is the only thing keeping me upright.

 

[sheyduke]

I can't today... got so little sleep, coffee is the only thing keeping me upright.

Lol, I feel you on that.

 

[bfort2223]

Listen, I don't give a **** if other fan bases want to be stupid; DUKE FANS shouldn't be.

Let me break this down for you:

Lavar Ball is an idiot who should be completely ignored, as we've seen many times ("I could beat Jordan!"), and now seems like a bit of a racist.

EVERYONE IN THE WORLD IS CALLING HIM OUT FOR THIS. EVERYONE. EEEEVVVVEEERRRRYYYYOOONNNNNEEEE. Every. One.

This has nothing to do with white people being racist.

There would not be riots or national guard called out over some dumbass helicopter dad of some kid saying some moderately racist thing, especially a thing that has gotten hinted at for years and years in discussion of basketball.

This has nothing to do with "minority's" (sic) being catered to and the tit popping out of their mouth, whatever in the **** that means.

Why do people go COMPLETELY ****ing retarded about race? Like... completely?

Some jackass nobody said a moderately racist thing. Everyone is saying he is a jackass nobody. There is no greater social message here, and it is not some goddamned political touchpoint.



****. I really expect more from Duke fans. DUKE FANS. FFS.

Agreed. It's a simple fact that white racism directed at blacks carries far more social and historical significance than the kind of comment Mr. Ball made.

His comment was certainly ignorant but also very transparently so. He's just self-indulgent like so many others who get a whiff of fame and is exploiting his 15 minutes at this point.

No reason for people to get incensed about these comments if their argument is that they portray inequity in one's right to say racist things. If whites really feel deprived about some purported inability to spout off racist viewpoints, well, it's a form of speech protected by the First Amendment so feel free, but the resultant backlash is much more justified when whites express racist views because of the legacy of slavery, Jim Crow, etc.

 

[GAAP_rivals]

I think people are reading the quote too quickly. Read it again, carefully. There's a double negative: "you can't win no championship with 3 white guys" = you can win a championship with 3 white guys.

My conclusion? He's either (1) paying homage to the 2010 Duke team, or (2) a reverse racist demonstrating his lack of basic communication skills.

 

[dukephysics]

You can't fill no 4 man bobsled with 3 white guys.

You can't play no double tennis match with 3 white guys.

You can't have no piggy back race with 3 white guys.

I think he meant you need 1) more white guys or 2) at least 1 or more non-white guys to win a championship. Maybe Ball has a little John Madden in him.

 

[TheDude1]

I think people are reading the quote too quickly. Read it again, carefully. There's a double negative: "you can't win no championship with 3 white guys" = you can win a championship with 3 white guys.

My conclusion? He's either (1) paying homage to the 2010 Duke team, or (2) a reverse racist demonstrating his lack of basic communication skills.

I'm sorry, did you just use the concept of double negative to show that Ball was paying homage to the 2010 Duke team?