Favorite THR Quotes....
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This one from UNC-75 when talking about Grayson.
"Reputation gives any tie to "guilty as charged". That's why reputation is important whether it's fans across the country or the refs. Stay clean in the first place and you won't have to defend yourself."
Oh the irony when a UNC fan, of all people, gives a lecture on reputation and staying clean.
"Reputation gives any tie to "guilty as charged". That's why reputation is important whether it's fans across the country or the refs. Stay clean in the first place and you won't have to defend yourself."
Oh the irony when a UNC fan, of all people, gives a lecture on reputation and staying clean.
Those are great songs, Sky! Saw Rod in concert (with my wife) in the early 90's, and he put on a wonderful show.
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That just might top everything that has ever been said over at THR. Hopefully he doesn't operate moving machinery or work around sharp objects.
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Holy crap what did I read. This UNC71-00 seems like an angry guy with lots of hatred. To make it worse, posters are giving him props for his nonsense. Here is the latest gem:
I always know I have won an argument when my wife changes the subject. The difference is at this point I let it die when talking with her; however since makeup sex is not an issue in this particular exchange, I have no worries about continuing to pound you into a pulp.
No one (other than your whiny self) is talking about NCAA infractions and what may or may not have happened. This discussion has nothing to do with players taking classes at North Carolina Central, jewelry, Sociology majors or any of that. Or if you want to talk about this stuff, then get Duke to agree to all FOIA requests. But of course that will never happen, so let's stick to the topic.
Duke plays trashketball, pure and simple, and they play a dirty brand of it. From the head whips to the leg kick 3s to the flops to the pulling and grabbing, your coach encourages the players to do whatever it takes to win. Bend the rules, break the rules, not only do these things not matter-they are coached and part of the premeditated game plan. And K does his part by whining and bitching and moaning and cussing and spitting and glaring and refusinghandshakes and generally acting like the biggest ******* coach in the history of sports, and I don't say that lightly. But guess what- he wins. So all is forgiven, at least by his loyal minions.
Duke isn't universally hated because they win, in spite of what K tries to sell (and all of you fools buy, apparently). You are universally hated because of the way you go about winning. He took the Detroit Pistons of the late 80s and raised it 3 notches. But he wins, just like the Pistons did. So own it, relish it, and brag about it. This is who you are. Quit trying to pretend like you are victims of anything and own the fact that you are despised not because ofthe fact that you win, but because of the chosen style used to secure those wins.
And what your fools also don't get, which is completely entertaining for the rest of us, is that the actual real live people who go to Duke and graduate from Duke don't have a very high opinion of the non-alum fanbase. Unlike most Duke fans and probably 999/1000 of your message board population, I know several guys who graduated from Duke, and they laugh about all the lifelong Duke fans that used to be lifelong State fans before State went in the crapper which coincided with Duke's rise to prominence. What you really are, at least here in NC, are ABCers and Duke is the only place you can go these days to actually have hope of a victory. And as far as the rest of the nation that likes Duke, these are just simply bandwagon fans- you see them in every sport. In short, Duke is only liked by the vast majority of you twerps because Duke wins- which is the very essence of bandwagon.
Because at it's root, Duke is the very embodiment of the 1 per centers. It's an absurdly expensive, elitist private school that looks down it's rather prominent nose at the rest of society and will do whatever it needs to do to maintain power and win. Whereas our love for North Carolina is based on the fact that it is as it was meant to be- the University of the people. (edit- thanks toCharles Kuralt for this beautiful piece of prose)
So now Duke plays trasketball and mimics the Bad boys of the 80s??? You can't make this stuff up
I always know I have won an argument when my wife changes the subject. The difference is at this point I let it die when talking with her; however since makeup sex is not an issue in this particular exchange, I have no worries about continuing to pound you into a pulp.
No one (other than your whiny self) is talking about NCAA infractions and what may or may not have happened. This discussion has nothing to do with players taking classes at North Carolina Central, jewelry, Sociology majors or any of that. Or if you want to talk about this stuff, then get Duke to agree to all FOIA requests. But of course that will never happen, so let's stick to the topic.
Duke plays trashketball, pure and simple, and they play a dirty brand of it. From the head whips to the leg kick 3s to the flops to the pulling and grabbing, your coach encourages the players to do whatever it takes to win. Bend the rules, break the rules, not only do these things not matter-they are coached and part of the premeditated game plan. And K does his part by whining and bitching and moaning and cussing and spitting and glaring and refusinghandshakes and generally acting like the biggest ******* coach in the history of sports, and I don't say that lightly. But guess what- he wins. So all is forgiven, at least by his loyal minions.
Duke isn't universally hated because they win, in spite of what K tries to sell (and all of you fools buy, apparently). You are universally hated because of the way you go about winning. He took the Detroit Pistons of the late 80s and raised it 3 notches. But he wins, just like the Pistons did. So own it, relish it, and brag about it. This is who you are. Quit trying to pretend like you are victims of anything and own the fact that you are despised not because ofthe fact that you win, but because of the chosen style used to secure those wins.
And what your fools also don't get, which is completely entertaining for the rest of us, is that the actual real live people who go to Duke and graduate from Duke don't have a very high opinion of the non-alum fanbase. Unlike most Duke fans and probably 999/1000 of your message board population, I know several guys who graduated from Duke, and they laugh about all the lifelong Duke fans that used to be lifelong State fans before State went in the crapper which coincided with Duke's rise to prominence. What you really are, at least here in NC, are ABCers and Duke is the only place you can go these days to actually have hope of a victory. And as far as the rest of the nation that likes Duke, these are just simply bandwagon fans- you see them in every sport. In short, Duke is only liked by the vast majority of you twerps because Duke wins- which is the very essence of bandwagon.
Because at it's root, Duke is the very embodiment of the 1 per centers. It's an absurdly expensive, elitist private school that looks down it's rather prominent nose at the rest of society and will do whatever it needs to do to maintain power and win. Whereas our love for North Carolina is based on the fact that it is as it was meant to be- the University of the people. (edit- thanks toCharles Kuralt for this beautiful piece of prose)
So now Duke plays trasketball and mimics the Bad boys of the 80s??? You can't make this stuff up
By the way, I don't know if anyone is reveling in this like me, but the last time UNCheat won a NC, their players left and the next year was a down season which ended with an NIT bid. Our "down" season after losing 4 starters, and the 5th to injury was making it to at least the Sweet 16. I take great pride in knowing that.
This is a broken record coming from UNC71-00. He brought it up over and over on the national board. I asked him for evidence that our players abuse the limited opportunity to take a class at Central. He had none, yet still maintained widespread abuse. Then I provided the following information about interinstitutional registration:
https://registrar.duke.edu/special-registrations/interinstitutional-registration
The student may take a course at a participating university if the student's academic advisor and/or dean can certify that the course is appropriate for the student's degree program and that the course is not available during the same academic year at the home institution. Registration deadlines of the home institution should be observed. Students may not audit courses under the interinstitutional registration agreement.
Furthermore, I pointed out that the number of classes one could possibly take at Central was limited to one per semester. So to break it down:
1) Need approval from academic advisor or dean
2) Class can't be available at Duke
3) Maximum one class per semester
All of that context is completely lacking in his claims of widespread abuse of this process. In my 4 years at Duke, I can say with absolute certainty I never met another student who had taken a class at Central or even contemplated taking a class at Central. Furthermore, if Duke basketball players were popping up in classes at Central, you better believe there would be some chatter/photos about it on social media. Despite any shred of evidence (unlike the mountains of evidence against UNC), that moron maintains widespread abuse. What a fool. It's worth noting that he stopped posting on the national board when I outed him for his stupid conspiracy theory about classes at Central.
It's also rich how he denigrates the Sociology program at Duke, again without any shred of evidence of malfeasance. I guess that's his prerogative: lie consistently and present absolutely no evidence to support inaccurate claims. What a sad, sad individual.
Stupid people believe want they want to believe, regardless of facts that slap them in their open-mouthed faces. That is one of the primary things that makes them stupid.
https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/threads/ncaa-investigation.35718/
Amazing how cocky they are. And how in hell is it that so many of those clowns, like SeaHawk here, claim it is an academic issue only, therefore they are in the clear as far as bball?? Amazing.
Amazing how cocky they are. And how in hell is it that so many of those clowns, like SeaHawk here, claim it is an academic issue only, therefore they are in the clear as far as bball?? Amazing.
https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/threads/the-hate-from-other-teams-is-really-starting.35841/
And this one. All of us are sooooo jealous of them. Hilarious, they are gonna suck next year.
And this one. All of us are sooooo jealous of them. Hilarious, they are gonna suck next year.
Which post? As you well know, the mods over there don't really allow much discourse. So little, in fact, that some of us are banned without having posted over there.
What points? Are you talking about his assertion that Duke players take classes at NC Central despite a total lack of evidence indicating that is the case?
Ex-Duke players consistently pop up in jobs that require intelligence and poise. You can't say the same for many other top b-ball programs. We're educating our guys and recruiting high character athletes... and winning. No wonder they mad.
The one that matthew1 quoted, quoted again below for reference.
I do know that the mods on THR can have a quick trigger sometimes, but who is has been banned without posting over there?
I can say with certainty that he has zero evidence to support his wild accusations about our players loading up on NC Central classes. He's been tossing that nonsense out there for a while now, and it's just as stupid as it was the first time he posted it. I suppose I shouldn't expect anything more from a poster like him.
That was his claim? That Duke athletes load up on NC Central courses? And I'm assuming Hark and his brethren just took that as gospel, with no desire to see anything that resembles proof.
Duke students have the ability to take classes at other universities, but there are strict guidelines that must apply (to student-athletes as well; this isn't UNC):
1) It can be done once a term only
2) The class has to be individually approved by an advisor or Dean as an adequate substitute
3) The off-campus class the Duke student is taking CANNOT be offered on the Duke campus that term
So, players or any students quite literally cannot "load up." In addition, one of the schools Duke has this interinstitutional agreement with is UNC-Chapel Hill. Under the current circumstances, if I was looking to attack Duke's academic integrity, that would probably be the better thing to bring up.
https://registrar.duke.edu/special-registrations/interinstitutional-registration
Duke students have the ability to take classes at other universities, but there are strict guidelines that must apply (to student-athletes as well; this isn't UNC):
1) It can be done once a term only
2) The class has to be individually approved by an advisor or Dean as an adequate substitute
3) The off-campus class the Duke student is taking CANNOT be offered on the Duke campus that term
So, players or any students quite literally cannot "load up." In addition, one of the schools Duke has this interinstitutional agreement with is UNC-Chapel Hill. Under the current circumstances, if I was looking to attack Duke's academic integrity, that would probably be the better thing to bring up.
https://registrar.duke.edu/special-registrations/interinstitutional-registration
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Derryck, there is a rumor out there that you and/or Chase Jeter many be considering a transfer. I hope this is true because your situation has all the signs of being strikingly similar to Andre "Bail-Out" Dawkins. In case you don't know, K convinced Dawkins to enroll early because K had a big need for guard to come in to fill a vacuum......In other words enroll early to "bail' K out. The rest is history.
Andre Dawkins enrolled at Duke early and K abused him his entire career while at Duke. K even convinced Dawkins to redshirt for a year. Bottom line, K does not care about you.
Frank Jackson has already been designated the starter at point for Duke next year. Your brief time as a starter for Duke will officially end when Jackson sets foot on the Duke campus. If you stick around, you will be the second coming of Andre "Bail-Out" Dawkins. Think about it! You bailed K out last year by enrolling early and now you will get abused. You will not start over Frank Jackson. K has invested heavily in the one-n-done philosophy and since you look like a 4-year player you will be abused. Trust me son.
Oh my Chase. How much playing time do you think you are going to get with Amil "Shaq Jabbar" Jefferson returning and the imminent signing of Bolden out of Texas? Please don't let K convince you to redshirt. Just get the heck out of there!
You heard it here first! You will thank me for this.
K only thinks about himself. He does not care about either of you. Get out!
Derryck, there is a rumor out there that you and/or Chase Jeter many be considering a transfer. I hope this is true because your situation has all the signs of being strikingly similar to Andre "Bail-Out" Dawkins. In case you don't know, K convinced Dawkins to enroll early because K had a big need for guard to come in to fill a vacuum......In other words enroll early to "bail' K out. The rest is history.
Andre Dawkins enrolled at Duke early and K abused him his entire career while at Duke. K even convinced Dawkins to redshirt for a year. Bottom line, K does not care about you.
Frank Jackson has already been designated the starter at point for Duke next year. Your brief time as a starter for Duke will officially end when Jackson sets foot on the Duke campus. If you stick around, you will be the second coming of Andre "Bail-Out" Dawkins. Think about it! You bailed K out last year by enrolling early and now you will get abused. You will not start over Frank Jackson. K has invested heavily in the one-n-done philosophy and since you look like a 4-year player you will be abused. Trust me son.
Oh my Chase. How much playing time do you think you are going to get with Amil "Shaq Jabbar" Jefferson returning and the imminent signing of Bolden out of Texas? Please don't let K convince you to redshirt. Just get the heck out of there!
You heard it here first! You will thank me for this.
K only thinks about himself. He does not care about either of you. Get out!
Makes them feel better in their pea brains as a way of deflecting their academic scandal and saying, "See, Duke does something similar too!" What a bunch of morons.
In their minds Grayson tripping players is equal to UNC players not attending class for 20+ years & remaining eligible. Definitely comparable....
Here would be my response....although I'm guessing it will fall on deaf ears. He seems to have made up his mind despite most of it being everyday UNC jargon and little of it dealing in truths, but rather subjective (fecal) matter.
Dean Smith is one of the greatest basketball coaches of all-time and was revered by his peers. In the state of North Carolina he was somewhat of a god. And there's nothing wrong with that. However, 36 years ago some Polish guy from Chicago with a West Point degree in tow came to town. No one noticed at first because he didn't win. Duke was still Duke....the little brother, the elite private school and in no way threatening of UNC.
Then something happened. All of a sudden this Krzyzewski guy was winning some games, taking in recruits, and welp, he was brazen enough to challenge Dean. People didn't like it. No one questions or challenges the great Dean Smith, they said.
Even still, though, Dean was still Dean. This cocky young guy won't last and there's no way a coach can consistently win at Duke. But soon that was changing, too. Starting in 1986, the hot shot West Point grad would take Duke to seven Final Fours in nine years and win two national championships....even eclipsing Dean's total after the 1992 season (Dean would obviously tie it back up with the win in '93).
Now things were getting dicey. All of a sudden kids were choosing the school eight miles away over the holy grail of Chapel Hill. Dean's run was coming to an end and this Krzyzewski guy was still only 50 years old while holding two national championships with potentially another 20 years or so left to coach.
Fast forward to where we are today in the 21st century. Coach K has advanced to 12 Final Fours and won five national championships. Among his peers, he's the most revered coach of his time. He leads USA basketball and the best basketball players in the world look to him for advice and as a mentor. He's eclipsed everything Dean Smith ever accomplished in the sport. He's philanthropic through the Duke University Hospital and the Emily K Center. But he's a fraud, they say. Oooooooo-kkkkkkkkaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy!
Have Duke players flopped? Yes. So do UNC players. Trashketball? Seriously? It makes you sound like the little kid at the playground who takes his ball and goes home. And just because UNC fans think he's an ******* doesn't make him one. Sure, others do too. But plenty of people disliked Dean outside of North Carolina back in the day. And I'd be willing to guess that if Dean coached in an age with social media he might be looked at in a different light too.
And give me a break about Duke being hated because of how they go about winning. That's laughable. Just because you've built up this mental block in your mind that you can't get past doesn't make you right of the authority. UNC fans hate K. That doesn't bother me. Like I said, it's laughable. You will go to just about any length imaginable to paint K in a bad light. And again, that's fine. But please don't act like somehow the UNC fan is the moral compass. Everyone knows that's not true.
And give me a break about the graduation thing. Are you really arguing that? People laugh at the non-graduates? Fine. Some probably do. How is that different than any other school? And even still, I don't really understand your point. Is it that if you didn't go to Duke you can't be a fan or can't be invested into the team? Sound logic.
There's elitists at Duke. There's elitists at every school....whether private or public. I never spent a single day of my education in a public school....from elementary, to high school, my undergrad to grad school....all at private institutions. And for the record, I myself didn't attend Duke. But every stop along the way I met kids of every race, ethnicity and socio-economic background. Some were pricks, but most were good people and very, very few were "one percenters", as you like to call them.
Lastly, the university of the people, in Chapel Hill, ran an educational Ponzi scheme for two decades....it started under Dean's watch and continued in earnest with his disciple Roy. Be proud of the university of the people....and continue being mad at Duke. I think Duke fans relish in it because it's such a disillusioned way of thinking....most of the time we're laughing at you.
P.S. Charles Kuralt is probably rolling over in his grave seeing as how the university of the people, his former university, cheated so many student-athletes over the course of the past two decades....he'd probably be offended you used his name
I strongly suggest this be pinned at the top of the board. As a Duke alum, I truly enjoy meeting people who did not attend Duke University yet are invested in the athletic program.
As a fellow graduate, I completely agree.
keysersosay#1: "So the NCAA can evaluate and rule on an academic department that it has NO legal right or authority to do??? Can you give me an example of when they did this before and to what University??"
DSouth: "The only way it could be a NCAA violation is if those classes were offerred ONLY to athletes or if coaching staffs steered their players to those classes. Neither happened in Men's basketball or football. No matter how easy the classes may have been, the difficulty of the classes or what was expected from the class work is not within the NCAA's authority. We can talk for days, weeks, months and years on should it be but the fact is as I write this and absolutely when those questionable classes were going on they were not in the NCAA's realm of authority."
Apparently neither one has heard about Jim Harrick. While Georgia had a host of other issues under Harrick's watch, they were certainly charged with academic fraud over a class that was offered to regular students. While an assistant coach was directly involved, that case is certainly relevant to UNC's ongoing issues with the NCAA:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/11/s...ds-harrick-and-withdraws-from-postseason.html
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2004-03-03-harrick-exam_x.htm
DSouth: "The only way it could be a NCAA violation is if those classes were offerred ONLY to athletes or if coaching staffs steered their players to those classes. Neither happened in Men's basketball or football. No matter how easy the classes may have been, the difficulty of the classes or what was expected from the class work is not within the NCAA's authority. We can talk for days, weeks, months and years on should it be but the fact is as I write this and absolutely when those questionable classes were going on they were not in the NCAA's realm of authority."
Apparently neither one has heard about Jim Harrick. While Georgia had a host of other issues under Harrick's watch, they were certainly charged with academic fraud over a class that was offered to regular students. While an assistant coach was directly involved, that case is certainly relevant to UNC's ongoing issues with the NCAA:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/11/s...ds-harrick-and-withdraws-from-postseason.html
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2004-03-03-harrick-exam_x.htm
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I like DSouthrs rationalizing , our team can cheat, long as somebody who isn't on the team cheats with'em. Really smart fella.
DSouthr is always good for a laugh:
"For we old foggys, it is like going to bed with that poster of Farrah Fawcett and waking up to that poster being RoseAnn Barr is that red swimsuit..Oh the horror, my wet dream turning in to my greatest nightmare!
That is kinda what I see playing out for the fan bases of NC State, duke, and Ky. Their wet dream is we get taken down by the NCAA, their nightmare is that it does not happen and they just can not accept what they already know is coming. IT drives them nuts and it does because they so crave the national respect that we at least had and will earn back. But they just can not find a way to tap in to that love. Their collective envy drives over the top, they are obsessed, they feel this pain of our having what they crave to the extent I wonder if suicide alerts should come with the NCAA's final ruling?
Duke fans felt pretty good because they won it all last season but here we are again, yet again poised to steal their thunder, drives them nuts they will it all and we come right back and snatch away their bragging rights. Ky fans and duke fans see their team get all that crazy talent, more than we have had and yet here UNC is, on the verge of greatness yet again.
And as for NC State, actually who cares, no one cares, no one has reason to care, they are the punch line to a joke that IS FUNNY ! LOL."
"For we old foggys, it is like going to bed with that poster of Farrah Fawcett and waking up to that poster being RoseAnn Barr is that red swimsuit..Oh the horror, my wet dream turning in to my greatest nightmare!
That is kinda what I see playing out for the fan bases of NC State, duke, and Ky. Their wet dream is we get taken down by the NCAA, their nightmare is that it does not happen and they just can not accept what they already know is coming. IT drives them nuts and it does because they so crave the national respect that we at least had and will earn back. But they just can not find a way to tap in to that love. Their collective envy drives over the top, they are obsessed, they feel this pain of our having what they crave to the extent I wonder if suicide alerts should come with the NCAA's final ruling?
Duke fans felt pretty good because they won it all last season but here we are again, yet again poised to steal their thunder, drives them nuts they will it all and we come right back and snatch away their bragging rights. Ky fans and duke fans see their team get all that crazy talent, more than we have had and yet here UNC is, on the verge of greatness yet again.
And as for NC State, actually who cares, no one cares, no one has reason to care, they are the punch line to a joke that IS FUNNY ! LOL."