Missouri S&T Exhibition

cmullinsTU

All-American
Dec 19, 2006
10,185
8,285
78
Is this year’s team better than last years?

Genuine question, I’m apathetic and don’t pay close attention anymore
 

mcane

All-Conference
Dec 3, 2003
8,478
2,703
112
overreacting I know but I went from 16 wins to 9 prediction and that’s based on a soft schedule
Hoping for better on Monday
 
  • Like
Reactions: t-townpod

rusty-c

All-Conference
Dec 28, 2009
3,973
3,046
0
which is worse our football or our basketball?
Football…. The basketball team won’t be relying on true freshman to win games. I hope that the young guys can contribute, but we won’t roll out a hoops lineup full of 18-19 year olds to compete against grown men like FB.
 

TUcandoit

All-Conference
Sep 17, 2011
1,955
1,833
113
I don't understand how any of you are taking an exhibition game with anything more than a grain of salt. If you are predicting our season off an exhibition game...that's weak. See how they do Monday and then start forming opinions. If you picked your superbowl champion by their preseason record you would have the wrong team almost every single year.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dougheffking

AvsRick

Redshirt
Dec 10, 2003
287
37
0
Agree a bit. But I think the early panic comes from the last several years and not just this exhibition game. But this game brought on the fear of "oh no, we suck again" mentality and I understand it. I know it was "just an exhibition game" and we were maybe trying different things. I even read above someone pointed out that maybe we let it be a close game for more experience. If that is true, we do have the wrong coach again. We should be using these games to get a feel for winning games. Unfortunately to me, it feels like another year of the same. I hope not.
 

TUcandoit

All-Conference
Sep 17, 2011
1,955
1,833
113
Exhibition games are literally designed as one last chance before a season starts to see where you are lacking. Where you need to practice more, get stronger, and what you can build upon. It's to get that 1-2 weeks of closed practices to really get prepared for opening game. A coach who uses exhibitions only to get a "W" is doing it wrong in my opinion. You don't learn anything from that. You need those games to find those weaknesses and improve upon them. Put them in rough scenarios and see how they do.
 

AvsRick

Redshirt
Dec 10, 2003
287
37
0
I don't understand how any of you are taking an exhibition game with anything more than a grain of salt. If you are predicting our season off an exhibition game...that's weak. See how they do Monday and then start forming opinions. If you picked your superbowl champion by their preseason record you would have the wrong team almost every single year.

Exhibition games are literally designed as one last chance before a season starts to see where you are lacking. Where you need to practice more, get stronger, and what you can build upon. It's to get that 1-2 weeks of closed practices to really get prepared for opening game. A coach who uses exhibitions only to get a "W" is doing it wrong in my opinion. You don't learn anything from that. You need those games to find those weaknesses and improve upon them. Put them in rough scenarios and see how they do.
I disagree whole heartedly. The team and fan base needs W's and momentum right now. If TU was coming off successful seasons, i could get behind that mentality. But right now, nothing is more important than winning for the program even if it is just an exhibition.
 

TUcandoit

All-Conference
Sep 17, 2011
1,955
1,833
113
I disagree whole heartedly. The team and fan base needs W's and momentum right now. If TU was coming off successful seasons, i could get behind that mentality. But right now, nothing is more important than winning for the program even if it is just an exhibition.
That teaches the coach nothing of his team. He went out and did that the first exhibition and won by what?? 40. This one was to find weaknesses. Winning doesnt tell you where you are weak. Would you rather see a rough exhibition that he can go in and fix and not count against us? Or see something bad happen week 2 and we lose because we didnt find anything out in our exhibition and it could have been addressed weeks before?
 

chito_and_leon

All-Conference
Dec 5, 2003
6,511
2,765
0
Exhibition games are literally designed as one last chance before a season starts to see where you are lacking. Where you need to practice more, get stronger, and what you can build upon. It's to get that 1-2 weeks of closed practices to really get prepared for opening game. A coach who uses exhibitions only to get a "W" is doing it wrong in my opinion. You don't learn anything from that. You need those games to find those weaknesses and improve upon them. Put them in rough scenarios and see how they do.
Well, usually coaches schedule exhibitions against lower division teams so they can do the things you said and still get the easy W. Most coaches don't have to choose one or the other. That's the concern. We should be able to play the end of the bench and win by 20.
 

chito_and_leon

All-Conference
Dec 5, 2003
6,511
2,765
0
That teaches the coach nothing of his team. He went out and did that the first exhibition and won by what?? 40. This one was to find weaknesses. Winning doesnt tell you where you are weak. Would you rather see a rough exhibition that he can go in and fix and not count against us? Or see something bad happen week 2 and we lose because we didnt find anything out in our exhibition and it could have been addressed weeks before?
If this is his logic then we should be playing a real team that can stretch us. The fact that MOST and not Drake or Ill. St. stretched us is concerning.
 

astonmartin708_rivals

All-American
Apr 17, 2012
19,250
6,808
73
Funny that one team can consider it an exhibition in their schedule while the other teams doesn’t…

When is a friendly not a friendly?
 

chito_and_leon

All-Conference
Dec 5, 2003
6,511
2,765
0
Funny that one team can consider it an exhibition in their schedule while the other teams doesn’t…

When is a friendly not a friendly?
This seems obvious to me, and it's an idea that rightly or wrongly is well entrenched in sports culture, that when a lower team plays a higher team, the lower team is motivated to give it their all and the higher team might slack. You hear this a lot when a higher team talks about a lower team like "this was their super bowl" or the best team is like "every team brings their A game against us." I'd expect a bunch of DII kids to work like crazy to beat a DI team. And the coach probably looks at the value of the game for the DII team differently than the DI team. Maybe I'm not understanding your point because it seems obvious.
 

TUcandoit

All-Conference
Sep 17, 2011
1,955
1,833
113
This seems obvious to me, and it's an idea that rightly or wrongly is well entrenched in sports culture, that when a lower team plays a higher team, the lower team is motivated to give it their all and the higher team might slack. You hear this a lot when a higher team talks about a lower team like "this was their super bowl" or the best team is like "every team brings their A game against us." I'd expect a bunch of DII kids to work like crazy to beat a DI team. And the coach probably looks at the value of the game for the DII team differently than the DI team. Maybe I'm not understanding your point because it seems obvious.
it's the opposite in this case. It will be an exhibition for them but a game for us.
 

Gmoney4WW

Heisman
Jul 4, 2007
42,851
15,676
113
That teaches the coach nothing of his team. He went out and did that the first exhibition and won by what?? 40 24 . This one was to find weaknesses. Winning doesnt tell you where you are weak. Would you rather see a rough exhibition that he can go in and fix and not count against us? Or see something bad happen week 2 and we lose because we didnt find anything out in our exhibition and it could have been addressed weeks before?
 

TUcandoit

All-Conference
Sep 17, 2011
1,955
1,833
113
I think that was AvsRick's point, which you objected to. I believe he was saying that we should treat every game as a "real" game, given our instability and disappointing results in recent years.
What? That was not even what the question was about. The team we are playing literally has this game marked as an exhibition on their schedule and yet it will count for us. Aston wanted to know how that is possible. How can one team not count a game and another could. To which I said I dont know that is weird. To which no one has yet to explain that either. and what exactly did I object to??
 

TulsaRising1

All-Conference
Jun 21, 2017
5,134
4,123
81
Given the report of us beating the pants off of a North Dakota state team, I’d like to think the game the other night was a fluke, but I think we’ll know more this evening when we see us play again.
Hopefully that was as big of a fluke as us beating UTSA 😂 let’s do what they did though ! Win a well played game after being disappointed !
 

cmullinsTU

All-American
Dec 19, 2006
10,185
8,285
78
I don’t care if it’s an exhibition, the number 1 team in the country, or Little Sister’s of the Poor, at this point I just want to see Ws pile up. We have the schedule that it should be the expectation but I have 0 expectations right now.

I blame the past two basketball season and the state of the football program for my low expectations. I know nothing about the basketball team this year other than Archie is on it and a stud. But I’m excited.
 

Tulsafanzz

All-Conference
Apr 21, 2006
6,931
4,542
113
I sure hope we see a different (much better) TU team tonight. I might have too high of expectations for this year’s team, but I expect to see continued improvement this season.
After that disappointing exhibition game, I will be watching tonight’s game for signs of improvement.
 

goldenhurricane2

All-American
Sep 9, 2006
7,718
8,829
113
I sure hope we see a different (much better) TU team tonight. I might have too high of expectations for this year’s team, but I expect to see continued improvement this season.
After that disappointing exhibition game, I will be watching tonight’s game for signs of improvement.
I really really want that exhibition game to be fluke.
 

Babe the Blue Ox_rivals

All-Conference
Oct 3, 2001
3,582
3,279
0
Off topic, but has anyone else been around long enough to remember S&T (Sick & Tired) from AZ’s blue board? That poor guy complained about everything then got offended when everyone didn’t agree with his brand of crazy.
 

goldenhurricane2

All-American
Sep 9, 2006
7,718
8,829
113
Off topic, but has anyone else been around long enough to remember S&T (Sick & Tired) from AZ’s blue board? That poor guy complained about everything then got offended when everyone didn’t agree with his brand of crazy.
Ha! There have been a lot of weirdos come and go over the years
 

astonmartin708_rivals

All-American
Apr 17, 2012
19,250
6,808
73
Ha! There have been a lot of weirdos come and go over the years

😉
 
Inside Tulsa Sports

Latest

  1. 01 Inside Tulsa Sports Arias Nash expected to be a force on the Tulsa defensive line
  2. 02 Inside Tulsa Sports Tulsa Football: Strong competition in the kicking game
  3. 03 Inside Tulsa Sports David Wells gives Tulsa Football a proven weapon at receiver
  4. 04 Inside Tulsa Sports Tulsa's position battles continue as Oklahoma State opener draws near
  5. 05 Inside Tulsa Sports Tulsa Football: Offense looks to create explosive plays