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TU1NNJ

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I am not a big NFL fan but the college OT rule is better than the NFL. Both teams should get a possession. Luck of the coin toss is too much of a critical factor. Yes I understand that if they don’t score a TD the other team does get the ball but too many factors can impact one possession.

After watching the Rams and Saints earlier I was thinking a modified college rule might be good. Each team gets 10 downs from the 25 yard line. If you score in less than 10 plays you get the ball after the other teams possession for the remainder of your downs. If the teams are tied after 10 downs each then both teams gets one down from the 5 yard line and field goals are not an option. Keep going until a winner is decided.

Just my 2 cents.
 

Gmoney4WW

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I agree that a flip of the coin and the first one to score is not fair. If you have a great defense but a lesser offense, or vice versa, then a bad coin flip can favor one team over the other in OT.
 
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Gmoney4WW

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I would like to see an additional ten minute period then you continue play and it becomes sudden death of game is tied after ten.
And flip coin twice, once for OT, twice for second Sudden Death OT. If you are going to let a coin flip favor one team over the other, then at least have two flips to possibly even the odds. Personally I'd rather have one 10 minute OT, and if it is still tied go to a modified college rule as TUNNJ was suggesting.
 

URedskin54

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College OT rules are the way to go. It might be the best thing about the college game.
 

lawpoke87

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And flip coin twice, once for OT, twice for second Sudden Death OT. If you are going to let a coin flip favor one team over the other, then at least have two flips to possibly even the odds. Personally I'd rather have one 10 minute OT, and if it is still tied go to a modified college rule as TUNNJ was suggesting.

I would simply have a continuation of play after ten minutes if the game is tied (playoffs only). So at the ten minute mark if the Chiefs have the ball at their own 40 in a tie game they keep the ball there same down and yardage. Only thing which would change is the next score wins.
 

Gmoney4WW

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I would simply have a continuation of play after ten minutes if the game is tied (playoffs only). So at the ten minute mark if the Chiefs have the ball at their own 40 in a tie game they keep the ball there same down and yardage. Only thing which would change is the next score wins.
That would definitely be more fair than a coin flip in a separate sudden death OT. Would lend toward coaches strategy as well.
 

Tulsafanzz

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As regulation was ending, I told my wife & daughter that whoever wins the upcoming coin toss will win the game. It shouldn’t be that predictable. Both offenses were playing well & both defenses were worn down

I agree, college rules are fairer.
 

quincy101

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Hey Bla( & choke, gasp-TUPatsFan-assuming Pats means Patriots), will it be #6 for #12? I'm thinking so-& solidifying his status as greatest QB ( as well as dynasty) in NFL history. The Pats haters may now spew some hate. Was hoping it would be the Super(Geriatric)Bowl with Brees-age 40 & Brady-age 41 knocking heads. But refs made sure that didn't happen.
 
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noble cane

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I would like to see the coaches meet at midfield with pistols at 20 paces.

Otherwise the rule is fine.

The college rule sucks... games can last forever and players can get hurt.
 

tupatsfan

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Hey Bla( & choke, gasp-TUPatsFan-assuming Pats means Patriots), will it be #6 for #12? I'm thinking so-& solidifying his status as greatest QB ( as well as dynasty) in NFL history. The Pats haters may now spew some hate. Was hoping it would be the Super(Geriatric)Bowl with Brees-age 40 & Brady-age 41 knocking heads. But refs made sure that didn't happen.

There were plenty of calls against the patriots too. The conspiracy theorists just sound like morons.
 

Babe the Blue Ox_rivals

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One thing I hope Coach Reid learned yesterday: Don't call a timeout just before halftime with the hope of getting the ball back. You just gave Brady time to run more plays when he would have been satisfied going in to the locker room up 7-0.
 

Gmoney4WW

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There were plenty of calls against the patriots too. The conspiracy theorists just sound like morons.
I don't think he is talking about a call against Kansas City. I believe he is talking about the call against the New Orleans Saints that 'kept' the geriatric bowl from happening.
 
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noble cane

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I don't think he is talking about a call against Kansas City. I believe he is talking about the call against the New Orleans Saints that 'kept' the geriatric bowl from happening.

I would have liked to have seen the geriatric bowl... a SB with real football teams.. not those big 12 clones...a 17-14 Super Bowl would be pretty cool.
 

alchemy

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All I know is that Julian Edelman is one of the toughest players ever. He also is magical. That crazy bounce when he tried to field that punt was surreal. Even more so that it missed him. Go Pats!
 

TU_BLA

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I took my son to the game in KC yesterday. Not sure how but he is a Chiefs fan, so it was a pretty cool experience for his first live NFL game.

The officiating was weird. Weird calls against the Patriots, weird non-calls that went against the Patriots, yet the calls that most impacted the game favored the Patriots. The roughing the passer...everyone where we were sitting knew exactly what it was for when it was thrown and it looked like Jones hit Brady in the helmet...but replay slowed down showed he didn’t really touch him at all. Best guess is ref was blocked out a bit by the OL. I am still shocked by the overrule on the muffed punt. Up until that point fans in the stands felt we were in for a sub 3 hour game because it moved along at a brisk pace and then the 4th quarter took over an hour to play by itself.

Guys next to me wondered why the Chiefs scored so early at the end and then they said “why would you leave any time for Brady” and they were pretty resigned that the Pats were going to score. Said guy left when New England won the coin toss in OT.

I listened to KC sports talk driving back today and there were many discussions about the OT rule...but the question is, would they have questioned it had KC won the coin toss and went down and scored? Of course they wouldn’t.
 

TU_BLA

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All I know is that Julian Edelman is one of the toughest players ever. He also is magical. That crazy bounce when he tried to field that punt was surreal. Even more so that it missed him. Go Pats!
Yeah...not sure what or how the NFL came up with that replay decision. IMO, and remember, I am as big a Pats fan as there is, there was nothing definitive on any of the replays that was conclusive one way or the other. I’ve never seen so many flying blue missiles (Bud Light can bottles) in my entire life after that.
 

URedskin54

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I didn't have much of a rooting interest in this one and I thought KC's DBs got away with murder all game long. The call for roughing the passer on Brady was bad but I think the Patriots had plenty to complain about
 

Babe the Blue Ox_rivals

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How did they treat the visiting fans last night? The one time I went to Arrowhead about 20 years ago I was cheering for the Cowboys. You would have thought we were there to steal their children.

I’ve been to college and NFL games all over and never encountered that level of hostility before or since.
 

noble cane

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How did they treat the visiting fans last night? The one time I went to Arrowhead about 20 years ago I was cheering for the Cowboys. You would have thought we were there to steal their children.

I’ve been to college and NFL games all over and never encountered that level of hostility before or since.

Didnt you ever play cowboys and Indians as a kid?
 

TU_BLA

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How did they treat the visiting fans last night? The one time I went to Arrowhead about 20 years ago I was cheering for the Cowboys. You would have thought we were there to steal their children.

I’ve been to college and NFL games all over and never encountered that level of hostility before or since.
Lot of talk, but most were at least civil. There were a pretty good amount of Patriots fans too. The absolute worst the fans got was after the muff overrule...I can’t blame them. The language was pretty juicy but it’s not something my son hasn’t heard before.
 
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TUMU

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How did they treat the visiting fans last night? The one time I went to Arrowhead about 20 years ago I was cheering for the Cowboys. You would have thought we were there to steal their children.

I’ve been to college and NFL games all over and never encountered that level of hostility before or since.

I've been to Chiefs games in Denver, San Diego, Houston, Jacksonville. I ran into hostile fans at each place.

A friend of mine went to a Chiefs game in Buffalo. They were throwing beer cans or bottles, I don't remember which. The ushers response was, if you don't like it, leave. Lol.
 
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HuffyCane

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Try Millwall or Mexico in Azteca, then get back to me. Drove into the stadium with motorcycle escort, roadblocks and several technical jeeps with mounted .50 cal. Sicario looked very familiar except that escort team was smaller. Walked into the stadium ringed by 300 riot police and past counter snipers and bomb disposal cans. Watched the game inside a section ringed with ten foot chainlink fences with barbed wire at the top pointing OUT. Riot police inside and outside of that and they still tried to climb the fence to get at us despite watching countless friends pulled or beaten down. Endless barrage of Coke cups filled with urine and thrown, coins, batteries, you name it. It got worse when the result was a tie.