I saw an nit bracket from last night showing tulsa

libertychamp

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in a pod with 1 providence 2 Penn State 3 Oregon 4 LSu 5 washington 6 ucf 7 tulsa 8 Rider this looks like a winnable nit bracket to final 4 nit. the site was NYCBUCKETS the 4 top seeds were ARIZONA STATE- ALABAMA WITH OKIE STATE A 2 IN THEIR POD PROVIDENCE AND NEBRASKA LOOKS PRETTY REASONABLE
 
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Tulsafanzz

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We will have to move up to at least a 6 seed, & probably a 5 seed to get in the NIT.

The NIT averages 11 automatic bids given out each year to lower rated conference regular season champions that didn’t win their conference tournament. These NIT “Auto-bids” will take all the 7 & 8 seeds, & sometimes the 6 seeds & some 5 seeds.
 

mcane

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I agree that TU must beat Memphis (hopefully not USF) for RPI boost to make the NIT. Probably a road game unless TU wins 2 in the AAC.
 

JesseTU

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I thought a 7 season would still be at risk of being bumped from automatic bids with their RPIs in the 1000s?
 

Loca5174

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I would like for them to play out here on the east coast. That way I can attend the game.
 

libertychamp

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Tulsa has now dropped out of nit in this site to best chance of CIT/CBI with teams listed in order tulsa is the new top team for the CIT OR CBI
 

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Cool. Our conference won’t allow our teams to play in that tourney so clearly that site has tons of credibility.
 

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I dont understand, 19 - 11 isn't good enough for the nit?

The problem is that the NIT gives auto-bids to conference champions that don't make the NCAA field. Right now, they are projecting 10 NIT auto-bids, which leaves only 22 at-large slots to fill.

According to bracketmatrix.com, Tulsa is listed in "Other teams considered."


http://www.bracketmatrix.com/nit.html
 
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tupatsfan

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That’s great and all, but we will be in the NIT. Temple certainly won’t be in over us.
 

astonmartin708_rivals

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How are the at larges for the NIT evaluated? Is their a teamsheet like the NCAA? Or, do they just use RPI? Advanced Stats?

Why am I seeing OSU being a low seed in the NIT when they are significantly behind us in RPI? I'm guessing they must be using a team sheet?
 

astonmartin708_rivals

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It looks like there were 10 auto bids given last year, but a 20-11 (80 RPI) Richmond team from the A10 with only one decent win (against Rhode Island) went to the NIT. They were 4th place in the A10
 

mcane

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I think we must win Friday to get in. Even then, it will be iffy. A win Friday and Saturday, absolutely in.
 

TU_BLA

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Some of this crap is so shady. Personally, I don’t think a team with an under .500 confer nice record should be eligible for the NCAA tournament. OSU has a ton of good wins in the Big XII...but they still finished under .500 at 8-10 meaning they had a bunch of bad losses in conference. Same with OU...finished under .500. If you’re crap in your own conference you shouldn’t get to show your crap off in the NCAA tournament...or NIT
 

lawpoke87

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OSU doesn’t have a loss to a team not projected to be in the tourney. How are those “bad” losses ? Losses yes. Too many losses...maybe. But zero bad losses.

Osu shows why you can’t schedule teams below #300. Beat teams in the 200 range and you’re fine. Below 300 and the RPI is skewed.
 

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OSU doesn’t have a loss to a team not projected to be in the tourney. How are those “bad” losses ? Losses yes. Too many losses...maybe. But zero bad losses.

Osu shows why you can’t schedule teams below #300. Beat teams in the 200 range and you’re fine. Below 300 and the RPI is skewed.
Personally I would like to see a rematch between OSU and Tulsa
 

lawpoke87

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Haha that would be great, but I will settle for an NIT matchup with OU or OSU, but heck, I didn't even expect us to be in the NIT conversation a few weeks ago so why not!

Going to be interesting to see how the committee treats both those teams.
 

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Going to be interesting to see how the committee treats both those teams.
OU and TU are almost the exact opposite, we started off rather slowly but then picked up steam towards the end of the season, whereas OU started off hot and now the wheels have fallen off. Between OU, OSU, and Tulsa, any of those 3 could beat the other imo
 

URedskin54

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It’s true that OSU has a lot of good wins, but if the committee is going to use RPI to determine what are good wins then OSU’s #86 RPI has to matter too. If you’re going to play one of the worst non-con schedules in the country I’m not sure 8-10 in conference should get you in. I’d probably have them in, but it’s really close and I don’t think they have room to complain if they’re left out.
 

lawpoke87

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OU and TU are almost the exact opposite, we started off rather slowly but then picked up steam towards the end of the season, whereas OU started off hot and now the wheels have fallen off. Between OU, OSU, and Tulsa, any of those 3 could beat the other imo

There are teams lining up to play to play OU in the first round of the tourney right now. They’ve won two games since January.
 

lawpoke87

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It’s true that OSU has a lot of good wins, but if the committee is going to use RPI to determine what are good wins then OSU’s #86 RPI has to matter too. If you’re going to play one of the worst non-con schedules in the country I’m not sure 8-10 in conference should get you in. I’d probably have them in, but it’s really close and I don’t think they have room to complain if they’re left out.

Agree

OSU did play Wichita St, A&M, Fla State, Pitt and TU. Their problem is the other half of their non-conference. Playing sub 300 teams is an RPI killer. That said...OSU’s Pom and Sagarin ratings are solid. No clue what the committee does with them or OU.
 

URedskin54

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Agree

OSU did play Wichita St, A&M, Fla State, Pitt and TU. Their problem is the other half of their non-conference. Playing sub 300 teams is an RPI killer. That said...OSU’s Pom and Sagarin ratings are solid. No clue what the committee does with them or OU.

Fwiw I kinda think the committee will have them pretty firmly in with like a 10 seed. Ctt is the resident expert on this stuff though
 

lawpoke87

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Fwiw I kinda think the committee will have them pretty firmly in with like a 10 seed. Ctt is the resident expert on this stuff though

I think it depends on what the other bubble teams do. Wouldn’t be shocked to see OU or OSU in the play-in game.
 

TU1NNJ

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If it comes down to OSU vs OU for an at large; based on the blinded resume from the broadcast, OSU placing 8 OU 9 in Big XII and OSU 2-1 head to head seems like OSU would get the nod.
 
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TU_BLA

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Going to be interesting to see how the committee treats both those teams.
OU and TU are almost the exact opposite, we started off rather slowly but then picked up steam towards the end of the season, whereas OU started off hot and now the wheels have fallen off. Between OU, OSU, and Tulsa, any of those 3 could beat the other imo
OU is a one man team and that one man hit the wall about 3-4 weeks ago. With regard to TU, we’ve got 7 guys who could be the leading scorer any given game.
 

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I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a team limp into the NCAA tournament like OU will.

Maybe Arizona State? They were ranked #3 in the nation at one point this season but have lost 5 out of their last 6 and finished 2 games under .500 in the PAC12.
 
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I.I.

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I think it depends on whether Boise St beats Nevada and whether Tulsa wins the AAC. Both of those would knock a couple out.
 
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