OSU Assistant Mike Boynton new OSU HC

mcane

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came with Underwood. Apparently, OSU only interviewed Gottlieb and the current assistants. It's almost as if Holder has decided OSU basketball is not a major sport - or could it be there was no interest from sitting head coaches such as Jankovich?

A desperate gambit to keep Evans from turning pro?

Cheaping out (again)?
 
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TU_BLA

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Remember when TU fans heard a sitting assistant coach knocked his interview out of the park and we passed on hiring Chad Morris and others?
 
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But they have T. Bone Picken$$$$$$$.

You'd think he'd put up some $$$ to hire a decent coach.
 

goldfan83

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But they have T. Bone Picken$$$$$$$.

You'd think he'd put up some $$$ to hire a decent coach.
I think he is mostly dedicated to football. How much of that was lost on some poor commodity bets that went the wrong way on them too?
 

lawpoke87

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I've never seen anything like this...widespread demands among the fan base calling for Mike Holder's immediate resignation. I would say running well over 90 percent.
 

lawpoke87

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I know of very few people who thought OSU would get a Marshall. What they did think is they would get a solid mid-major guy much in the mold of the Underwood hire. Most fans now realize that Holder's reputation for being difficult to work with is widespread in the coaching ranks and his presence is toxic when it comes to hiring an established coach.
 

lawpoke87

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Why does this sound like a JP hire?

I think the only similarity is that they were both in the predecessor's staff. JP was old and a TU guy (why he got the job). Boynton is young and has no ties to OSU other than being an assistant coach for one year. He better win quick because OSU fans will not show up to the arena after this to watch bad basketball.
 
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If Pickens would have bankrolled it, they could have made Self an offer that would have been hard to refuse.
 

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I am not sure Self wants anything to do with Holder and Pickens. He has a great job at KU why screw it all up and go to osu.
 
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It came down to Boynton & Self, Buddy Self, asst. coach at Poteau High School. They felt Boynton was a better fit, since he already lives in Stillwater.
 

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If Pickens would have bankrolled it, they could have made Self an offer that would have been hard to refuse.

They offered Self a boatload of $ in 2008 and he had no interest. Marshall would never have been interested in OSU. I think there would be quite a few smaller college guys with established success that would have been interested. Surprised they did not make an effort for Kermit Davis, Dan Hurley or the like.
 

mcane

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this seems like a "we don't care to make the best hire" hire from Holder. Still shocked that no sitting head coach from a super-successful mid-major was not even interviewed. I think Haisten got it right - convenient and affordable hire, one of the most damning comments from the World I've ever seen.

Very sad tonight for a great KU team. But the NCAA is a one-great-game tourney.
 

TU_BLA

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Archie Miller (Dayton) is the new HC at Indiana. Good fit for Hoosiers
 

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Mark Few was elevated from assistant at Gonzales so there is hope.
 

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Hard to compare to Few, He was Gonzaga assistant like 10 years before getting his gig. This hire may end of being a home run but it is certainly a head scratcher.
 

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Kim Anderson was available... Great D-II coach. All he did was moan about how it was so hard after the mess he said he inherited. Heck, given another 10 years, he might have turned things around. But I guess Pitt State outbid them!
 

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All he did was moan about how it was so hard after the mess he said he inherited.

It's so fascinating how situations are in the eye of the beholder. Kim did moan a lot about that. Martin was named HC, he's already attracted big time recruits to the school, and Mizzou fans think they're headed to the tournament next fall. Despite the terrible job Kim did for 3 years.
 
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Kim Anderson was available... Great D-II coach. All he did was moan about how it was so hard after the mess he said he inherited. Heck, given another 10 years, he might have turned things around. But I guess Pitt State outbid them!

Anderson took over a bad situation, both on the floor and academically and made it WORSE.

He's now the head coach at Pittsburgh State, back to Division Ii.
 
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lawpoke87

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Anderson took over a bad situation, both on the floor and academically and made it WORSE.

He's now the head coach at Pittsburgh State, back to Division Ii.

He also took over a program going on probation including scholarship reductions and a post season ban.
 

TU_BLA

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He also took over a program going on probation including scholarship reductions and a post season ban.
And the 2 best players leaving school for the NBA.

Interestingly, Gottlieb was on the DP Show today and talked some about the process. He was initially under the impression that Holder wanted him but the rest of the committee did not and he thought it initially was because they wanted someone with more experience behind the bench. Gottlieb said he thought that meant they were going to go with someone like Tom Crean or Tim Jankovich and that he didn't have a resume that could compare with those guys. But then they hired Boynton.

Interestingly enough, Gottlieb said his brother, Miles Simon, would have been part of his staff. I don't know anything about Gottlieb's brother, but Miles Simon was one of the best guards I've ever seen in college.
 

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Im glad they went cheap on a coach, the return to Stoolwater will be that much funner. IF and that is a BIG IF we have improved the way we should have, I would love to see us run them out of their own building
 

lawpoke87

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No idea if Boynton can coach but he's killing it thus far on the recruiting side. Just received a commitment from the #68 player in the country and has confirmed official visits from numerous top 50 national kids beginning this week. I hated the hire but if he can coach a lick it looks like he has a chance to be successful given the talent he appears to be attracting.
 

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No idea if Boynton can coach but he's killing it thus far on the recruiting side. Just received a commitment from the #68 player in the country and has confirmed official visits from numerous top 50 national kids beginning this week. I hated the hire but if he can coach a lick it looks like he has a chance to be successful given the talent he appears to be attracting.
True, if Haith can get things rolling again, this could be a monster rivalry
 

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No idea if Boynton can coach but he's killing it thus far on the recruiting side. Just received a commitment from the #68 player in the country and has confirmed official visits from numerous top 50 national kids beginning this week. I hated the hire but if he can coach a lick it looks like he has a chance to be successful given the talent he appears to be attracting.

The gap between the Big XII & the American is much smaller in basketball than football. We should be able to competitively recruit against OSU & other Big XII schools in basketball. The key word is should.
 

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The gap between the Big XII & the American is much smaller in basketball than football. We should be able to competitively recruit against OSU & other Big XII schools in basketball. The key word is should.
I think OU is going to uptick with that All American kid they grabbed last season. We'll never recruit with Kansas but there's no shame in that. I think Baylor / TCU's level of success is an achievable goal with the right recruiters in toe.
 
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I think OU is going to uptick with that All American kid they grabbed last season. We'll never recruit with Kansas but there's no shame in that. I think Baylor / TCU's level of success is an achievable goal with the right recruiters in toe.
Problem is, every time we have that "right recruiter", they get a job at a P5. Cason and English the two most recent
 
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