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Every last poster here who gave ****, to other posters claiming this kid was overrated (who were 100000000% correct), should STFU for about 3-months. 3 ROUNDS NOW AND NOBODY WANTS TO TOUCH HIM lololol!!! You know who you are so step up and "eat the crow" lol!
You’re all class.
 
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Many are trying to find an excuse but are overlooking what is most obvious, especially given the reports of people who are in charge of interviewing and analyzing Sanders.
I think this has become somewhat personal we have seen far worse qbs get picked in the first round it happens every year. It's not a talent issue with him. Every year teams reach for qbs because they have insane need for 1 most important position. Even in the NFL a bunch of bad qbs continue to get chances look at the circus Aaron Rodgers has become. If u think it's a talent issue u don't know football could the kid be arrogant yes but so are many other players. There's kid with legit off the field trouble and pending court cases who get drafted every year.
 

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Many are trying to find an excuse but are overlooking what is most obvious, especially given the reports of people who are in charge of interviewing and analyzing Sanders.
He had a few character flags but the refusal to work out anywhere and apparently doing poorly with the team interviews are not being overlooked. I expect he’ll go in the 4th round today.
 

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I think this has become somewhat personal we have seen far worse qbs get picked in the first round it happens every year. It's not a talent issue with him. Every year teams reach for qbs because they have insane need for 1 most important position. Even in the NFL a bunch of bad qbs continue to get chances look at the circus Aaron Rodgers has become. If u think it's a talent issue u don't know football could the kid be arrogant yes but so are many other players. There's kid with legit off the field trouble and pending court cases who get drafted every year.
I never mentioned talent or any other specific issue, but talent does seem to be a problem. As someone said on the site, everyone entered in the draft is good but who is the best of the best. Right now Sanders doesnt appear to be one of the best.

"According to Jeff Howe of The Athletic, most NFL decision-makers he spoke to were "more concerned with Sanders' talent than anything off the field," adding that, "Some said the personality nitpicks wouldn't be an issue if he had put together better tape."


He had a few character flags but the refusal to work out anywhere and apparently doing poorly with the team interviews are not being overlooked.
This too.
 
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I never mentioned talent or any other specific issue, but talent does seem to be a problem. As someone said on the site, everyone entered in the draft is good but who is the best of the best. Right now Sanders doesnt appear to be one of the best.

"According to Jeff Howe of The Athletic, most NFL decision-makers he spoke to were "more concerned with Sanders' talent than anything off the field," adding that, "Some said the personality nitpicks wouldn't be an issue if he had put together better tape."



This too.
I'm just not buying all what's being said I'm not saying he's super elite or he's isn't cocky. I'm simple saying that we have seen players with similar issues still go very early. You can't tell me shouldn't have been drafted already you are legit crazy if u think he's a 4th round talent considering the way he produced in college. The saints took qb Tyler Shough at pick 40 the kid is 26 years old already lol spent 6 years in college transferred 3xs this past season wss the first time he threw for more then 1500 yards. This goes back to my point from the previous post NFL teams reach for qbs every year
 
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Every last poster here who gave ****, to other posters claiming this kid was overrated (who were 100000000% correct), should STFU for about 3-months. 3 ROUNDS NOW AND NOBODY WANTS TO TOUCH HIM lololol!!! You know who you are so step up and "eat the crow" lol!
???? The goalpost has moved huh? I thought it was the father that you guys didn't like and lost his "shine"? Now it was shedeur that you guys were saying would fail all along? Lol ok you were right....now what?
 
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At the end of the day the Sanders family builds their wealth every day. Shedeur is not desperate for money, he will play in the NFL. He will succeed or he will fail but because of the foundation his father has built for him he will always live a lavish life that many romanticize in the current political climate.. I don't understand what's funny lol
 
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Hey Caliknight don't react to my post we aren't talking about a lacrosse draft do they even have one??? Lol
 
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I think this has become somewhat personal we have seen far worse qbs get picked in the first round it happens every year. It's not a talent issue with him. Every year teams reach for qbs because they have insane need for 1 most important position. Even in the NFL a bunch of bad qbs continue to get chances look at the circus Aaron Rodgers has become. If u think it's a talent issue u don't know football could the kid be arrogant yes but so are many other players. There's kid with legit off the field trouble and pending court cases who get drafted every year.
Plenty of players with issues get drafted every year because teams think they bring something that there aren’t a lot of options for. Guys who can play the DL or rush the QB will get multiple chances.

Sanders isn’t good enough to make it worth taking on any baggage and there are other options for what he brings. They can get other backup/developmental QBs that will be quiet.
 

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Plenty of players with issues get drafted every year because teams think they bring something that there aren’t a lot of options for. Guys who can play the DL or rush the QB will get multiple chances.

Sanders isn’t good enough to make it worth taking on any baggage and there are other options for what he brings. They can get other backup/developmental QBs that will be quiet.
He isn't good enough dude u are crazy lol it's amazing what people will believe
 
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I watched a bunch of Colorado games. He looked pretty good to me. He was under duress all the time with no line and kept his eyes downfield and would try and make plays. He never got in trouble. Looks like he works hard. Yeah he has an arrogant attitude but whatever. Confidence is important.

Unless coaches and owners are afraid of Deion and the circus. I get that but I’ve seen a lot of worse QBs drafted in rounds 1 and 2 through the years.

Surprised the Steelers didn’t take a swing in round 2.
 
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I'm just not buying all what's being said I'm not saying he's super elite or he's isn't cocky. I'm simple saying that we have seen players with similar issues still go very early. You can't tell me shouldn't have been drafted already you are legit crazy if u think he's a 4th round talent considering the way he produced in college. The saints took qb Tyler Shough at pick 40 the kid is 26 years old already lol spent 6 years in college transferred 3xs this past season wss the first time he threw for more then 1500 yards. This goes back to my point from the previous post NFL teams reach for qbs every year
It’s a very weak QB class, only 5 taken through 3 rounds. Most of these guys will probably be done in 3-4 years. I’m not surprised he wasn’t taken in the 1st round though I thought someone would take him the 3rd. Will not be on the board long today.
 

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I watched a bunch of Colorado games. He looked pretty good to me. He was under duress all the time with no line and kept his eyes downfield and would try and make plays. He never got in trouble. Looks like he works hard. Yeah he has an arrogant attitude but whatever. Confidence is important.

Unless coaches and owners are afraid of Deion and the circus. I get that but I’ve seen a lot of worse QBs drafted in rounds 1 and 2 through the years.

Surprised the Steelers didn’t take a swing in round 2.

I didn't know he would fall this far but I'm a pretty emotionally intelligent guy. Lol when I saw him pull up to the combine, not work out, have his jewelry on. Have his hat on backwards during media availability and proclaim in multiple interviews how good he was and would be. Walking around like he owned the combine, I knew that was going to cost him. Maybe if he ran a 4.2 like his father he can do all of that but not when you have his measurables..
 

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Every last poster here who gave ****, to other posters claiming this kid was overrated (who were 100000000% correct), should STFU for about 3-months. 3 ROUNDS NOW AND NOBODY WANTS TO TOUCH HIM lololol!!! You know who you are so step up and "eat the crow" lol!
Weird schadenfreude win for you
 

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He isn't good enough dude u are crazy lol it's amazing what people will believe
He's a better QB than milroe and Gabriel, hands down...ward Ill have to see, dart padded his stats vs cupcakes and disappeared in big games scared to let the ball go. Had one good game against legit competition...did you watch Colorado? Shedeur cooked in all types of situations and close games.. personally I wouldn't have wanted any of the QBs in this draft but to say there were 4 better QBs, that's why people are skeptical..
 

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He isn't good enough dude u are crazy lol it's amazing what people will believe
You aren’t facing reality.

There are only a small handful of teams where there is an open question over who their day 1 starter will be. For all of the teams with a starter Sanders “isn’t good enough” because NFL teams do not take on baggage for the backup or 3rd QB positions.

For the small handful that do need starters it is reasonable that after evaluating Sanders they judged he doesn’t bring the traits they are looking for.

He doesn’t have a strong arm and isn’t particularly athletic. He biggest positive stat as a college QB was his completion percentage, and that is positive is inflated by the fact he held onto the ball too long and took too many sacks.

You can go back 12-18 months ago and see mocks that had Quinn Ewers as a top 5 QB. The difference is that Ewers’ ranking was adjusted as teams evaluated him more, while the sports media continued to rank Sanders high even though we heard a lot about some teams not liking him at all, and others being turned off by the fact the Sanders camp was dismissive of the teams that weren’t drafting high (and that Sanders would only be willing to play for a select handful of teams).
 
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It’s a very weak QB class, only 5 taken through 3 rounds. Most of these guys will probably be done in 3-4 years. I’m not surprised he wasn’t taken in the 1st round though I thought someone would take him the 3rd. Will not be on the board long today.
Bro every year it's a weak qb class and every year teams reach and take qbs of out need. I can even give u that maybe not a 1st rounder. But you got GMs that are taking 5'10 Dillion Gabriel and 26 year old college journeyman Tyler Shough need to be fired before the 4th round of the draft. Cool they don't like Shaduer but I wouldn't pick any of those qbs but like I said teams reach every year for qbs
 

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He's a better QB than milroe and Gabriel, hands down...ward Ill have to see, dart padded his stats vs cupcakes and disappeared in big games scared to let the ball go. Had one good game against legit competition...did you watch Colorado? Shedeur cooked in all types of situations and close games.. personally I wouldn't have wanted any of the QBs in this draft but to say there were 4 better QBs, that's why people are skeptical..
Bro I'm on your side lol I forgot about Milroe getting drafted that kid was super inconsistent all year he held Alabama back. You can tell how they ran there offense they didn't trust him fully.
 

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You aren’t facing reality.

There are only a small handful of teams where there is an open question over who their day 1 starter will be. For all of the teams with a starter Sanders “isn’t good enough” because NFL teams do not take on baggage for the backup or 3rd QB positions.

For the small handful that do need starters it is reasonable that after evaluating Sanders they judged he doesn’t bring the traits they are looking for.

He doesn’t have a strong arm and isn’t particularly athletic. He biggest positive stat as a college QB was his completion percentage, and that is positive is inflated by the fact he held onto the ball too long and took too many sacks.

You can go back 12-18 months ago and see mocks that had Quinn Ewers as a top 5 QB. The difference is that Ewers’ ranking was adjusted as teams evaluated him more, while the sports media continued to rank Sanders high even though we heard a lot about some teams not liking him at all, and others being turned off by the fact the Sanders camp was dismissive of the teams that weren’t drafting high (and that Sanders would only be willing to play for a select handful of teams).
Rank Sanders how you want all I'm saying he should have been drafted already. You saying he dosent have a strong arm is a flat out lie
 
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People are ignoring that the short version of this saga is-

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Sanders camp- “there are only 5 or 6 teams who Shadeur will play for”. They proceed to be non-cooperative with other teams in the predraft evaluation process

Those 5-6 teams don’t want Shedeur.

Sanders camp “why is the entire league blackballing Shadeur?”
 

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I'm just not buying all what's being said I'm not saying he's super elite or he's isn't cocky. I'm simple saying that we have seen players with similar issues still go very early. You can't tell me shouldn't have been drafted already you are legit crazy if u think he's a 4th round talent considering the way he produced in college. The saints took qb Tyler Shough at pick 40 the kid is 26 years old already lol spent 6 years in college transferred 3xs this past season wss the first time he threw for more then 1500 yards. This goes back to my point from the previous post NFL teams reach for qbs every year
Shough has almost perfect NFL QB size. He’s also pretty darn fast. So, yeah, if you want to focus purely on college numbers he’s not your guy. Just grab whoever is running the current version of the air raid. But, if you want to project how a guy will play in the NFL, like every NFL team, you don’t just look at college numbers.
 
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He's a better QB than milroe and Gabriel, hands down...ward Ill have to see, dart padded his stats vs cupcakes and disappeared in big games scared to let the ball go. Had one good game against legit competition...did you watch Colorado? Shedeur cooked in all types of situations and close games.. personally I wouldn't have wanted any of the QBs in this draft but to say there were 4 better QBs, that's why people are skeptical..
Milroe is a physical freak. Sanders is a below average athlete. He’s not big, fast, and doesn’t have a huge arm. He’s tough as nails and he’s a gunslinger. But, you don’t build franchise around those guys. They get drafted late, develop, and get a shot at some point down the road.
 

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I'm just not buying all what's being said I'm not saying he's super elite or he's isn't cocky. I'm simple saying that we have seen players with similar issues still go very early. You can't tell me shouldn't have been drafted already you are legit crazy if u think he's a 4th round talent considering the way he produced in college. The saints took qb Tyler Shough at pick 40 the kid is 26 years old already lol spent 6 years in college transferred 3xs this past season wss the first time he threw for more then 1500 yards. This goes back to my point from the previous post NFL teams reach for qbs every year
So Tyler is a slow learner Iguess?
 

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Rank Sanders how you want all I'm saying he should have been drafted already. You saying he dosent have a strong arm is a flat out lie
Can you please post the assessments of Sanders that say he has a strong arm? Because just about every draft profile says he has a “good, not great arm”.
 

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Milroe isn’t a good QB, but his athleticism and arm put his ceiling far above Shadeurs.
Dude go away if you can't throw accurately you can't play in the NFL milroe struggled at Alabama throwing the ball. Milroe is nothing but joe milton
 

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Milroe is a physical freak. Sanders is a below average athlete. He’s not big, fast, and doesn’t have a huge arm. He’s tough as nails and he’s a gunslinger. But, you don’t build franchise around those guys. They get drafted late, develop, and get a shot at some point down the road.
Milroe is a physical freak and not a qb haha he can't accurately throw the ball. If you can't build around Sanders you definitely can't build around Milroe lol
 

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I didn't know he would fall this far but I'm a pretty emotionally intelligent guy. Lol when I saw him pull up to the combine, not work out, have his jewelry on. Have his hat on backwards during media availability and proclaim in multiple interviews how good he was and would be. Walking around like he owned the combine, I knew that was going to cost him. Maybe if he ran a 4.2 like his father he can do all of that but not when you have his measurables..
Ultimately I think this is what did him. They probably had some preconceived notions about him already and he just came to the combine and continued to rub these guys the wrong way. Him having played for his father all these years, idk if he knows how most football coaches are.. there's certain things thatll piss them off every single time..
 
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Milroe is a physical freak and not a qb haha he can't accurately throw the ball. If you can't build around Sanders you definitely can't build around Milroe lol
And no one is. That’s the point. When you draft a QB in the 3rd round you’re taking a flier. Let him sit, develop, and maybe you get lucky. In the interim, he instantly becomes a weapon on the tush push.
 
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