OT: Eternal Lawn Care Thread

[rufeelinit]

Probably wouldn’t wait a month if you’re in the area. Soil temp about low 50s is good.

https://plant-pest-advisory.rutgers...ch as,reaches this optimum temperature range.

Thanks

 

[phs73rc77gsm83]

I just aerated my lawn by hand using a metal rake, many blisters but I enjoy these things. I was going to use Lesco, but they had a great deal at Home depot, $50 off if you buy scotts halts crabgrass preventer plus another scotts summer fertilizer. But now I am going to seed instead after I aerated my lawn . First I need to have my sprinkler system turned on this week, any advice on which seed? I will then use the scotts triple action for seeding. I will save the Halts crabgrass for next year.

Here is a good piece on seed. I’d look for “zero weed and zero other crop” on the label. Some here use Hogan seed, I’ve used United seed (Bewitched) and Pownee Butte. All three are great. These are online distributors.

https://ag.umass.edu/turf/fact-sheets/understanding-turfgrass-seed-label

 

[wisr01]

I use the MSU site to plan putting down crabgrass preventer: https://gddtracker.msu.edu/

Looks like most of NJ is in optimum range for the next week or two. You can enter your zip code to check for your exact location.

 

[e5fdny]

I use the MSU site to plan putting down crabgrass preventer: https://gddtracker.msu.edu/

Looks like most of NJ is in optimum range for the next week or two. You can enter your zip code to check for your exact location.

I’m more of a company man myself…

https://njaes.rutgers.edu/fs1308/

 

[wisr01]

I’m more of a company man myself…

https://njaes.rutgers.edu/fs1308/

No tracking of current weather for timing your application in what is provided. The site I linked is for providing real-time estimates on timing.

 

[Postman_1]

So I was gonna spray my Prodiamine today with rain forecast for tomorrow evening. I checked when I purchased it and it was 2021. I read it has a 3 year shelf life so I didn’t do it.
I wanted to get something down before germination, better early than late. Ended up going to Depot and getting a Lesco 19-0-7 with Dimension in it. So I applied that with the spreader. I never used this before but it seems to be similar to Prodiamine. I’m having trouble locating a small 5 or 8oz size of Prodiamine. The only sizes I see are huge and most of it would go to waste.

 

[DHajekRC84]

I'll revisit this thread tomorrow with a good story and some pictures of my experience last year using a company to take care of my lawn for the first time ever.

 

[e5fdny]

No tracking of current weather for timing your application in what is provided. The site I linked is for providing real-time estimates on timing.

Dig deeper.

More of a Farmer's Almanac approach, but not bad...

"Crabgrass typically germinates mid to late April in central and northern New Jersey and early to mid-April in southern parts of the state. Forsythia is an excellent phenological indicator for crabgrass germination (Figure 6). When forsythia is in full bloom, crabgrass pre-emergent herbicides should be applied as soon as possible. Foxtails typically germinates 3 to 4 weeks after crabgrass."

Many of us use the forsythia example for this too.

I did not know this opinion by those at the RAES:

"In areas with a history of severe crabgrass infestations or sandy soils, consider applying once in the spring before crabgrass germinates and again in early June."

The above info pertains to the Scotts blue bag, the one you put down first.

 

[rufeelinit]

So I was gonna spray my Prodiamine today with rain forecast for tomorrow evening. I checked when I purchased it and it was 2021. I read it has a 3 year shelf life so I didn’t do it.
I wanted to get something down before germination, better early than late. Ended up going to Depot and getting a Lesco 19-0-7 with Dimension in it. So I applied that with the spreader. I never used this before but it seems to be similar to Prodiamine. I’m having trouble locating a small 5 or 8oz size of Prodiamine. The only sizes I see are huge and most of it would go to waste.

Can’t help you with prodiamine q but I also purchased lesco at Home Depot. The bags were strewn all over the floor and the employees offered me $10 off when he saw me looking at them

One of our knowledgeable lawn care posters replied to an earlier post on applying lesco and said I should put down sooner than later but said the soil should be around 50 degree. If we are still dropping down to the high 30’s at night could the soil be at 50 degrees. I was thinking I would wait until next week to apply.

 

[Postman_1]

Can’t help you with prodiamine q but I also purchased lesco at Home Depot. The bags were strewn all over the floor and the employees offered me $10 off when he saw me looking at them

One of our knowledgeable lawn care posters replied to an earlier post on applying lesco and said I should put down sooner than later but said the soil should be around 50 degree. If we are still dropping down to the high 30’s at night could the soil be at 50 degrees. I was thinking I would wait until next week to apply.

I use this site to track soil temps. Just put in your zip code. It’s (soil temps) been around 55 for 3 days. That’s what crabgrass needs to germinate I believe.
Yeah most of the bags were mangled. I got lucky and found one in good condition

Soil Temparature Maps | GreenCast | Syngenta

www.greencastonline.com

 

[phs73rc77gsm83]

So I was gonna spray my Prodiamine today with rain forecast for tomorrow evening. I checked when I purchased it and it was 2021. I read it has a 3 year shelf life so I didn’t do it.
I wanted to get something down before germination, better early than late. Ended up going to Depot and getting a Lesco 19-0-7 with Dimension in it. So I applied that with the spreader. I never used this before but it seems to be similar to Prodiamine. I’m having trouble locating a small 5 or 8oz size of Prodiamine. The only sizes I see are huge and most of it would go to waste.

I’ve used Dimension past it’s shelf life. In my view it doesn’t totally lose effectiveness; rather effectiveness is reduced beyond shelf life. I’ve used it at the upper range (as per label) or boosted the amount used. Having said, that, proceed at your own risk

 

[phs73rc77gsm83]

I use this site to track soil temps. Just put in your zip code. It’s (soil temps) been around 55 for 3 days. That’s what crabgrass needs to germinate I believe.
Yeah most of the bags were mangled. I got lucky and found one in good condition

Soil Temparature Maps | GreenCast | Syngenta

www.greencastonline.com

I plan on applying Dimension next week. Think you’ll e fine next week or even 10 or so days out. As per label, there is some post emergent control of crab grass in its early stages. Remember to rotate fungicides periodically.

https://www.domyown.com/msds/Dimension_2EW_Herbicide_Label_2023.pdf

 

[RU Golfer]

So I was gonna spray my Prodiamine today with rain forecast for tomorrow evening. I checked when I purchased it and it was 2021. I read it has a 3 year shelf life so I didn’t do it.
I wanted to get something down before germination, better early than late. Ended up going to Depot and getting a Lesco 19-0-7 with Dimension in it. So I applied that with the spreader. I never used this before but it seems to be similar to Prodiamine. I’m having trouble locating a small 5 or 8oz size of Prodiamine. The only sizes I see are huge and most of it would go to waste.

https://www.domyown.com/barricade-4fl-herbicide-p-3956.html?sub_id=23705

 

[rurichdog]

So I was gonna spray my Prodiamine today with rain forecast for tomorrow evening. I checked when I purchased it and it was 2021. I read it has a 3 year shelf life so I didn’t do it.
I wanted to get something down before germination, better early than late. Ended up going to Depot and getting a Lesco 19-0-7 with Dimension in it. So I applied that with the spreader. I never used this before but it seems to be similar to Prodiamine. I’m having trouble locating a small 5 or 8oz size of Prodiamine. The only sizes I see are huge and most of it would go to waste.

The two main pre-emergent choices we have for cool season crabgrass control are Prodiamine & Dithiopyr. Dimension's active ingredient is Dithiopyr; you're good. It is probably a good practice to switch up your pre-em chems every now & then so any crabgrass cultivars in your turf don't acquire resistance.

 

[phs73rc77gsm83]

No tracking of current weather for timing your application in what is provided. The site I linked is for providing real-time estimates on timing.

The preemergent paragraph says when forsythia is in full bloom. I go by 75% or so in bloom. A thermopen meat thermometer will work too, take soil temp in several places in the yard, Also, dimension has some post emergent control of crab grass (see label) so just my opinion but I think there is a 2-3 week window.

I also do a split application in June.

 

[BigRnj]

@phs73rc77gsm83 you have recommended Dithiopyr and Prodiamine (or Mesotrione when overseeding) as good pre-emergents for spring application (the forsythias are just about to bloom so it’s time). I’m wondering if you have an opinion about Dicamba? It appears as the active ingredient in Spectricide “weed stop for lawns plus crabgrass preventer.” It is cheap, readily available, and has a long list of post-emergent broadleaf weeds that it claims to control. My son has a lot of ground ivy at his new house so I’m thinking of using spectricide.

PS - I just ordered Lebanon brand Prodiamine from Tractor Supply company for my place.

As always much thanks for sharing your advice!

 

[phs73rc77gsm83]

@phs73rc77gsm83 you have recommended Dithiopyr and Prodiamine (or Mesotrione when overseeding) as good pre-emergents for spring application (the forsythias are just about to bloom so it’s time). I’m wondering if you have an opinion about Dicamba? It appears as the active ingredient in Spectricide “weed stop for lawns plus crabgrass preventer.” It is cheap, readily available, and has a long list of post-emergent broadleaf weeds that it claims to control. My son has a lot of ground ivy at his new house so I’m thinking of using spectricide.

PS - I just ordered Lebanon brand Prodiamine from Tractor Supply company for my place.

As always much thanks for sharing your advice!

Dicamba is an/the active ingredient in a number brands of herbicides, including spectricide. It is a selective, post emergent broadleaf weed killer. I don’t think it is a pre emergent itself but can be combined with some other herbicides that might include pre emergent active ingredients. I have not used it but it’s fairly commonly used. I have used Ortho CCO (purple) which contains triclopyr and is effective against ground ivy (though multiple applications may be necessary). Good luck!

 

[e5fdny]

So I’ve seen it mentioned in this thread and other places about using the pre emergent for crabgrass more than once.

Does that mean you use the broadleaf weed control in between? In this case the yellow Scott’s bag.

 

[phs73rc77gsm83]

So I’ve seen it mentioned in this thread and other places about using the pre emergent for crabgrass more than once.

Does that mean you use the broadleaf weed control in between? In this case the yellow Scott’s bag.

Depending on the rate Dimension has about a three three month coverage so I often do another ap in June. You could do one in September if you’re not reseeding and have some problems with fall/winter germinating weeds (e.g. Poa annua). I generally don’t need to use a post emergent but when I do it is when weeds are actively growing.

 

[Knight Shift]

Depending on the rate Dimension has about a three three month coverage so I often do another ap in June. You could do one in September if you’re not reseeding and have some problems with fall/winter germinating weeds (e.g. Poa annua). I generally don’t need to use a post emergent but when I do it is when weeds are actively growing.

I have been on a break from this board, but taking a break from the break, because I wanted to see what your thoughts are on two things.

First:
Have about 15,000 square feet. Terminated our lawn fertilization contract and using the Jonathan Green package. Did the weed and feed, calibrated my Scott's drop spreader to ensure it was "correct", did the weed/feed, and wound up with about half of my weed and feed left over at the setting for 3.2 lbs/100 SF. I'm positive I calibrated and had the right setting. So I decided to get a tow behind broadcast spreader (Brinly Hardy-a decent brand), and set that at half the recommended setting, and seemed it was spreading way too heavy.

Do you have a preferred spreader?

Second:
A landscaper friend mentioned there is a "new" selective herbicide for POA.

Thoughts? Only $599 for each 16 oz bottle, covers 7 acres, but requires multiple applications. Think it would be cheaper to kill my entire lawn with Roundup and reseed!

https://golfcourselawn.store/produc...l-for-cool-season-turf?variant=44695181525241

 

[phs73rc77gsm83]

I have been on a break from this board, but taking a break from the break, because I wanted to see what your thoughts are on two things.

First:
Have about 15,000 square feet. Terminated our lawn fertilization contract and using the Jonathan Green package. Did the weed and feed, calibrated my Scott's drop spreader to ensure it was "correct", did the weed/feed, and wound up with about half of my weed and feed left over at the setting for 3.2 lbs/100 SF. I'm positive I calibrated and had the right setting. So I decided to get a tow behind broadcast spreader (Brinly Hardy-a decent brand), and set that at half the recommended setting, and seemed it was spreading way too heavy.

Do you have a preferred spreader?

Second:
A landscaper friend mentioned there is a "new" selective herbicide for POA.

Thoughts? Only $599 for each 16 oz bottle, covers 7 acres, but requires multiple applications. Think it would be cheaper to kill my entire lawn with Roundup and reseed!

https://golfcourselawn.store/produc...l-for-cool-season-turf?variant=44695181525241

Good to hear from you, a break isn’t a bad idea! I’ve seen university studies that rate Anderson spreaders the best in terms of dispersion and other factors. They aren’t cheap, though. I use a Scott’s EdgeGuard Delux but it’s not ideal.

Velocity has been around for years but I think they recently reformulated it. It can damage many/most Kentucky Bluegrass cultivars so if you have a KBG lawn or Northern mix that includes KBG I personally would not use it. If you do, follow the label closely and maybe test it on a small patch to assess damage to desirable turf. PoaCure is effective against Poa annua and Poa triv but isn’t licensed for residential use and is very expensive. I have had some success with Tenacity doing multiple applications but staying within the per application and annual dosage limits on the label. Both Poa annua and Poa triv are winter annuals so pre emergents work best in early fall. Those battles are often multi-year efforts. Good luck!

 

[e5fdny]

I have been on a break from this board, but taking a break from the break, because I wanted to see what your thoughts are on two things.

First:
Have about 15,000 square feet. Terminated our lawn fertilization contract and using the Jonathan Green package. Did the weed and feed, calibrated my Scott's drop spreader to ensure it was "correct", did the weed/feed, and wound up with about half of my weed and feed left over at the setting for 3.2 lbs/100 SF. I'm positive I calibrated and had the right setting. So I decided to get a tow behind broadcast spreader (Brinly Hardy-a decent brand), and set that at half the recommended setting, and seemed it was spreading way too heavy.

Do you have a preferred spreader?

This happened to me too this season.

As I bought the package offered online from Scott’s:

4 bags, one for each season, and the spreader for $99.

It’s the same spreader @phs73rc77gsm83 uses, just the smaller model.

Also have a Scott’s drop spreader I’ve been using for years. More accurate IMO and more control.

 

[phs73rc77gsm83]

This happened to me too this season.

As I bought the package offered online from Scott’s:

4 bags, one for each season, and the spreader for $99.

It’s the same spreader @phs73rc77gsm83 uses, just the smaller model.

Also have a Scott’s drop spreader I’ve been using for years. More accurate IMO and more control.

I was thinking about an Anderson a few years back but most of what I put down is sprayed (though fertilizer is granular and thus spread).

 

[bigbirdru]

Depending on the rate Dimension has about a three three month coverage so I often do another ap in June. You could do one in September if you’re not reseeding and have some problems with fall/winter germinating weeds (e.g. Poa annua). I generally don’t need to use a post emergent but when I do it is when weeds are actively growing.

if you reapply in June, do you have problems seeding in August?

 

[bigbirdru]

I see a lot of people in this thread using Dimension and Barricade- Most of the stuff at home depot (Scotts, Vigoro) is Pendimethalin. Anyone have experience with that?

If you use preemergent now, and again in June, is seeding safe for end of August? most of the home depot stuff says it lasts 4 months.

I also see bio-advanced has a 5-1 that claims to last 6 months.

 

[phs73rc77gsm83]

if you reapply in June, do you have problems seeding in August?

If I’m going to seed or over seed at the end of august I do a lighter application in early June.

 

[DHajekRC84]

I have been on a break from this board, but taking a break from the break, because I wanted to see what your thoughts are on two things.

First:
Have about 15,000 square feet. Terminated our lawn fertilization contract and using the Jonathan Green package. Did the weed and feed, calibrated my Scott's drop spreader to ensure it was "correct", did the weed/feed, and wound up with about half of my weed and feed left over at the setting for 3.2 lbs/100 SF. I'm positive I calibrated and had the right setting. So I decided to get a tow behind broadcast spreader (Brinly Hardy-a decent brand), and set that at half the recommended setting, and seemed it was spreading way too heavy.

Do you have a preferred spreader?

Second:
A landscaper friend mentioned there is a "new" selective herbicide for POA.

Thoughts? Only $599 for each 16 oz bottle, covers 7 acres, but requires multiple applications. Think it would be cheaper to kill my entire lawn with Roundup and reseed!

https://golfcourselawn.store/produc...l-for-cool-season-turf?variant=44695181525241

Great questions and welcome back (was gonna give you a shout out because you and the @mildone just disappeared. I take breaks from here too. Very healthy thing to do lol).

I'm firing my team too..right after they fix the mess they made of things last year. Done my own for 33 years here but with that bad back I decided to hire someone . Fired the first 1 after just one attempt because they screwed up the very first time. They even came back and did an unannounced treatment 2 months after I fired them..SMH.

The 2nd company let this happen. They admitted they missed a fungus and agreed to restore the yard with aeration and seeding but couldn't last fall due to the drought. Coming back in 2 weeks..Then once I restored ..goodbye. I was shopping for a tow behind spreader just this weekend. Before and after pictures.

 

[RU Golfer]

I have been on a break from this board, but taking a break from the break, because I wanted to see what your thoughts are on two things.

First:
Have about 15,000 square feet. Terminated our lawn fertilization contract and using the Jonathan Green package. Did the weed and feed, calibrated my Scott's drop spreader to ensure it was "correct", did the weed/feed, and wound up with about half of my weed and feed left over at the setting for 3.2 lbs/100 SF. I'm positive I calibrated and had the right setting. So I decided to get a tow behind broadcast spreader (Brinly Hardy-a decent brand), and set that at half the recommended setting, and seemed it was spreading way too heavy.

Do you have a preferred spreader?

Second:
A landscaper friend mentioned there is a "new" selective herbicide for POA.

Thoughts? Only $599 for each 16 oz bottle, covers 7 acres, but requires multiple applications. Think it would be cheaper to kill my entire lawn with Roundup and reseed!

https://golfcourselawn.store/produc...l-for-cool-season-turf?variant=44695181525241

I have a Lesco High Wheel Broadcast spreader with the 80lb capacity hopper. Have had it 20+ years last spreader I will ever need.

 

[Knight Shift]

Good to hear from you, a break isn’t a bad idea! I’ve seen university studies that rate Anderson spreaders the best in terms of dispersion and other factors. They aren’t cheap, though. I use a Scott’s EdgeGuard Delux but it’s not ideal.

Velocity has been around for years but I think they recently reformulated it. It can damage many/most Kentucky Bluegrass cultivars so if you have a KBG lawn or Northern mix that includes KBG I personally would not use it. If you do, follow the label closely and maybe test it on a small patch to assess damage to desirable turf. PoaCure is effective against Poa annua and Poa triv but isn’t licensed for residential use and is very expensive. I have had some success with Tenacity doing multiple applications but staying within the per application and annual dosage limits on the label. Both Poa annua and Poa triv are winter annuals so pre emergents work best in early fall. Those battles are often multi-year efforts. Good luck!

Thanks. Maybe Velocity is not what my landscaper friend was referring to. Not going to spend that kind of $$ for a selective herbicide just for POA>

This happened to me too this season.

As I bought the package offered online from Scott’s:

4 bags, one for each season, and the spreader for $99.

It’s the same spreader @phs73rc77gsm83 uses, just the smaller model.

Also have a Scott’s drop spreader I’ve been using for years. More accurate IMO and more control.

I'm going to recalibrate and see if my problem was operator error.

Great questions and welcome back (was gonna give you a shout out because you and the @mildone just disappeared. I take breaks from here too. Very healthy thing to do lol).

I'm firing my team too..right after they fix the mess they made of things last year. Done my own for 33 years here but with that bad back I decided to hire someone . Fired the first 1 after just one attempt because they screwed up the very first time. They even came back and did an unannounced treatment 2 months after I fired them..SMH.

The 2nd company let this happen. They admitted they missed a fungus and agreed to restore the yard with aeration and seeding but couldn't last fall due to the drought. Coming back in 2 weeks..Then once I restored ..goodbye. I was shopping for a tow behind spreader just this weekend. Before and after pictures.

Holy smokes, it looks like they dropped Agent Orange on your yard! That's horrific! They even killed your Rutgers flag!!

I have a Lesco High Wheel Broadcast spreader with the 80lb capacity hopper. Have had it 20+ years last spreader I will ever need.

Thanks. That's a nice spreader. Amazon has them for about $634. As they say, sometimes the cheapest way to go is first class. I'm going to check my calibration on the drop spreader and give my tow behind another shot before giving up.

 

[Postman_1]

Did my first cut of the season yesterday. Grass was higher in some spots and looked ugly. Wanted to get it done with all the rains forecasted for this week. Still not fully green yet

 

[BigRnj]

@phs73rc77gsm83 what is the prevailing wisdom for when to overseed in the spring? I have a few rough spots that didn’t do well with my fall overseeding due to the fall drought. I use a little peat moss and straw so I assume a few light frosts shouldn’t be an issue, but I don’t want to seed too early … any advice?

 

[phs73rc77gsm83]

@phs73rc77gsm83 what is the prevailing wisdom for when to overseed in the spring? I have a few rough spots that didn’t do well with my fall overseeding due to the fall drought. I use a little peat moss and straw so I assume a few light frosts shouldn’t be an issue, but I don’t want to seed too early … any advice?

You can overseed now or anytime in the next couple weeks would be fine. I definitely like a Fall seeding better but spring can work. I like to use peat moss too but make sure the peat is pretty much saturated the first watering. Good luck.

https://postimg.cc/xk4mK1FM

 

[RU Golfer]

Just received a mail from Jonathan Green and they have a sale going on......Unfortunately I just got the mail and the sale ends today.

Spring is a perfect time to fertilize, as your lawn will need a boost from the cold winter months! Fertilizer is a "lawn food" that nourishes, strengthens, and enriches the soil, making it an important part of any lawn care routine. You can also bundle our fertilizers and buy everything you need at once! Buy our Annual Lawn Care Programs, our Natural Lawn Care Programs, or even our Lawn Starter Kits. Get 10% off* when you purchase one of our bundles today. Use code BUNDLE10 at checkout. Offer ends Wednesday, April 2nd!* Here is a simple fertilizer schedule you can follow throughout the year: Early Spring March-April: Fertilize to give your lawn a boost after winter Late Spring May-June: Control broadleaf weeds like clover and dandelion Green up the lawn with a second feeding Summer July-August: Adjust soil pH Loosen hard and compacted soil Feed soil microbes Autumn September-October: Apply a fertilizer that's high in potassium Repair summer damage and protect the lawn from harsh winter weather

SHOP FERTILIZERS​

 

[rufeelinit]

Can't believe I had to go four pages back to find this thread. Is everyone done with their spring lawn care? I put down Lesco 19-0-07 which is a combination fertilizer and pre emergent crabgrass preventer about a month ago. I am now noticing some other broadleaf weeds (dandelions) sprouting on a portion of my lawn near my neighbor who has quite a few such weeds. Am I supposed to put a general weed and feed product as well to address those? I thought I would do another round of Lesco in late May or early June but did not recall putting a general Scotts like weed and feed down in between. Thanks

 

[Knight Shift]

Can't believe I had to go four pages back to find this thread. Is everyone done with their spring lawn care? I put down Lesco 19-0-07 which is a combination fertilizer and pre emergent crabgrass preventer about a month ago. I am now noticing some other broadleaf weeds (dandelions) sprouting on a portion of my lawn near my neighbor who has quite a few such weeds. Am I supposed to put a general weed and feed product as well to address those? I thought I would do another round of Lesco in late May or early June but did not recall putting a general Scotts like weed and feed down in between. Thanks

Will defer to @phs73rc77gsm83 here, but I noticed similar sprout of a dandelion here and there in my lawn, particularly on the edges where lawm meets driveway. I keep a spray bottle of Ortho's selective herbicide mixed- I hit the dandelions, and they were gone in a day or two. One thing I have noticed this year (took over doing my own fertilization vs. the service) is that I have a lot less crabgrass than past years. Don't know if that is because of lack of rain or the product I am using.

Further up, I inquired about spreaders. Have not used it yet, but I went with the Spyker Ergo Pro SPY50L. Compared to my Scott's spreaders I used in the past, this is an industrial machine vs. a toy. Very well built. Will be doing the next round with this soon.

https://www.spyker.com/product/ergo-pro-spy50l-1p-50-broadcast-spreader/

 

[DHajekRC84]

Greenlawn FINALLY showed to seed/aerate my lawn last Friday night 5pm to fix their damage they caused. The manager texted me earlier in week they were coming Friday so I waited around. At 2pm a truck shows up and I asked them what they were doing. "We're here to fertilize your lawn"......OMG This business IS THE WORST. Once again I had to call and threaten legal action if not done THAT day. 5pm guy shows and said he was called back out to do my yard. "it's bad and I'm gonna have to really go over it and over it. About 2 hours". Rip it up I say. 1 hour later he was gone. Picture one is how they left it. Some holes and grass seed just lying on top of compacted soil. Picture two is after I grabbed my dethatcher and ran over everything for 30 mins mixing the seed into the soil.
Now I get to water my whole yard for an hour+ each day for the next 2+ weeks. more work for me.
NEVER AGAIN.

 

[rufeelinit]

Will defer to @phs73rc77gsm83 here, but I noticed similar sprout of a dandelion here and there in my lawn, particularly on the edges where lawm meets driveway. I keep a spray bottle of Ortho's selective herbicide mixed- I hit the dandelions, and they were gone in a day or two. One thing I have noticed this year (took over doing my own fertilization vs. the service) is that I have a lot less crabgrass than past years. Don't know if that is because of lack of rain or the product I am using.

Further up, I inquired about spreaders. Have not used it yet, but I went with the Spyker Ergo Pro SPY50L. Compared to my Scott's spreaders I used in the past, this is an industrial machine vs. a toy. Very well built. Will be doing the next round with this soon.

https://www.spyker.com/product/ergo-pro-spy50l-1p-50-broadcast-spreader/

Thanks for the reply. Sorry to hear about your issues. I had some spray out in the garage so I applied that on the obvious spots. Hopefully that will do the trick. Just wasn't sure if there was something else I could put down more broadly that will interact well with the Lesco product or if that should not be required.

 

[phs73rc77gsm83]

Thanks for the reply. Sorry to hear about your issues. I had some spray out in the garage so I applied that on the obvious spots. Hopefully that will do the trick. Just wasn't sure if there was something else I could put down more broadly that will interact well with the Lesco product or if that should not be required.

Seems odd the Lesco preemergent isn’t working just a month or so after application. Could be your sprayer didn’t apply the product evenly? Was it the right application rate as per the label? I think you could reapply preemergent in a month or so maybe at a lower rate since the split application is usually 3 or 4 months after the first (depending on rates). I agree with knight Shift on spot spraying with a broad leaf weed killer like Ortho Weed Killer (though I think Ortho is reformulating some products, including the above). It is more difficult to control weeds if your neighbors don’t—place emphasis on preemergent and then spot spray as may be needed. If you’re trying to control ground ivy, chickweed, and clover, Ortho CCO with triclopyr works well. Might need multiple applications as per label. Good luck!

 

[Knight Shift]

Seems odd the Lesco preemergent isn’t working just a month or so after application. Could be your sprayer didn’t apply the product evenly? Was it the right application rate as per the label? I think you could reapply preemergent in a month or so maybe at a lower rate since the split application is usually 3 or 4 months after the first (depending on rates). I agree with knight Shift on spot spraying with a broad leaf weed killer like Ortho Weed Killer (though I think Ortho is reformulating some products, including the above). It is more difficult to control weeds if your neighbors don’t—place emphasis on preemergent and then spot spray as may be needed. If you’re trying to control ground ivy, chickweed, and clover, Ortho CCO with triclopyr works well. Might need multiple applications as per label. Good luck!

Don't get me started on my neighbors! Can I call in an agent orange drop on a residential property?
You may recall I had used the Scott's drop spreader for my initial fertilizer application, and despite checking the calibration, I only applied half the product for my square footage, which I am 99% sure is correct to the 10th decimal point. Happy with the Jonathan Green product so far. Where I did not drop the fertilizer in a transition area from lawn to woods in back yard, I did notice dandelions have sprouted up. I went with the Ortho and spot sprayed the area 20 feet beyond the lawn. When I have more time, I may seed more towards the woods, but that would mean more to cut!
While his had been dry, the lawn seems very happy with all the rain. Deep green and a lot fewer weeds than in past years.

 

[Postman_1]

Can't believe I had to go four pages back to find this thread. Is everyone done with their spring lawn care? I put down Lesco 19-0-07 which is a combination fertilizer and pre emergent crabgrass preventer about a month ago. I am now noticing some other broadleaf weeds (dandelions) sprouting on a portion of my lawn near my neighbor who has quite a few such weeds. Am I supposed to put a general weed and feed product as well to address those? I thought I would do another round of Lesco in late May or early June but did not recall putting a general Scotts like weed and feed down in between. Thanks

I applied the same product in mid March. About 90% of the dandelion I have on my property are 5' from the property line between me and my neighbors. It's on both sides too. Usually I put down a spray and spray about 5' onto there property because of this. This year my spray was expired so I went with the granular. I guess I didn't put enough down at the property line. I pulled a few on Saturday. I have some post emergent Speedzone or Ortho CCO I will use this week sometime to hit them with.