Time for next HC pick

[MADHAT1]

Mine is Molly Miller of the Grand Canyon Antelopes (WAC)
She's only 38 and has a 85–35 for 5 full years, not including the 24-2 record this season which makes it 109-37 there ( as of now)
Including her Division II record 180–17 in 5 years as Dury's HC , she's 289–54 overall in 11 years

 

[dfr1966]

If they do decide to move on, my pick would be Carla Berube from Princeton. Check out her record, both at Princeton and Tufts before that, a true winner!

 

[richthedentist]

Mine is Molly Miller of the Grand Canyon Antelopes (WAC)
She's only 38 and has a 85–35 for 5 full years, not including the 24-2 record this season which makes it 109-37 there ( as of now)
Including her Division II record 180–17 in 5 years as Dury's HC , she's 289–54 overall in 11 years

I’m not really in tune to the coaches out there but what about a top assistant from one of the top teams in the country?

 

[MADHAT1]

I’m not really in tune to the coaches out there but what about a top assistant from one of the top teams in the country?

Would be a good choice.
I picked Molly because she is an up and coming coach ready for a bigger program in my opinion.
A proven winner that won't break the bank right now and might be a year or two away from being a hot coaching candidate for top programs liking for someone
One thing I add to qualifications is willing to work for a smaller salary that the top candidates, but be just as deserving.
Top assistants might want more then RU us willing to pay and won't gamble their career for low wages while RU might not want a give a long term contract to bring a top assistant to coach after buying out Washington
I'm hoping ( if job comes open) Miller would be willing to take a gamble her career for around double her current $250,000 salary and feel she could make a big name for herself at Rutgers
Top assistants might want top dollar and Rutgers does like to go cheap.
So thar's why a small school coach that has been very successful that looks ready to move up instead of a top assistant.
Which assistant(s) do you think would be a good choice
Carly Thibault-DuDonis(Fairfield) mentioned in another thread would be a good choice and might be a better fit seeing she's coaching an East Coast school in Connecticut and played for Monmouth

 

[Fat Koko]

Carly Thibault-DuDonis would deserve an interview. But Carly will likely have a new job by the time Rutgers gets around to looking for a new women's basketball coach.

3 years of head coaching experience, all at Fairfield

2022-2023 15-15
2023-2024 31-2, including 78-54 beatdown of Rutgers at RAC, 29 game win streak, first ever top 25 ranking
2024-2025 22-3

Assistant coach experience in B1G, SEC, ACC
Played college ball at Monmouth
From basketball coaching family

 

[aardvark34]

Miller's an interesting case where I think her religion may play a pretty major role in where she takes her next job, if she even does move in the next cycle or two. Would love her here, but it'd be a huge geographic and cultural change for her and her young family (not to mention the change in competition too).

I'd also be surprised to see a top assistant take the job. Even though I don't personally want this, I think it ends up being a boring bridge hire to bring some stability, whenever it does happen. I'm still of the view she gets another year (even though the returning roster's looking incredibly grim) but would be curious to see how the Kiyomi saga shakes out, and what effect it might have.

 

[RULoyal]

Washington is here for another season. We won't hire a new coach until we have a new AD. We won't have a new AD until we have a new President which we won't have until June.

 

[richthedentist]

Washington is here for another season. We won't hire a new coach until we have a new AD. We won't have a new AD until we have a new President which we won't have until June.

Unfortunately it’s going to be till August minimum till we have a new AD and there are other sports that need a change but not going to happen
The other issue for new AD is Hobbs gave out contract extension like candy so we are financially hamstrung

 

[MADHAT1]

Washington is here for another season. We won't hire a new coach until we have a new AD. We won't have a new AD until we have a new President which we won't have until June.

Agree, like who should be next HC threads started on college football message boards covering all sports, this thread ,started by me, was a dream scenario hoping the school would make a change and who would be the best candidate for the position needing to be changed.
I posted my thoughts that included my feeling RU would be hiring on the cheap ,because of having to pay Quese a buyout , and who might be willing to accept what RU offered to make a major move up in their career

 

[RULoyal]

Agree, like who should be next HC threads started on college football message boards covering all sports, this thread ,started by me, was a dream scenario hoping the school would make a change and who would be the best candidate for the position needing to be changed.
I posted my thoughts that included my feeling RU would be hiring on the cheap ,because of having to pay Quese a buyout , and who might be willing to accept what RU offered to make a major move up in their career

No harm in dreaming as long as folks realize they really don’t know what the candidate pool is going to be like when we are actually ready to hire.

 

[MADHAT1]

No harm in dreaming as long as folks realize they really don’t know what the candidate pool is going to be like when we are actually ready to hire.

by the time the change comes, candidates of today will be at new gigs and we'll be talking about new candidates considered best available for the job.

 

[rutgersron]

I can't take another year of the this coach. She was a mistake hire and has proved why. Unfortunately it looks like we are stuck with her for at least one more year at least until RU gets its administrative house in order. I dread sitting thru next year.

 

[MGSA99]

Coach's 3-year stint here wiill end 30-64, 9-45 Conference. Penn State will be her last game.

 

[MADHAT1]

Coach's 3-year stint here wiill end 30-64, 9-45 Conference. Penn State will be her last game.

Washington agreed to a six-year contract from 2022-23 through 2027-28.
Expect Rutgers to keep her for the 2025-26 & 2026-27 seasons and replace her for the 2027-28 season .
Rutgers doesn't like to give buyouts

 

[RULoyal]

Washington agreed to a six-year contract from 2022-23 through 2027-28.
Expect Rutgers to keep her for the 2025-26 & 2026-27 seasons and replace her for the 2027-28 season .
Rutgers doesn't like to give buyouts

That’s a lot of bad basketball.

 

[MADHAT1]

That’s a lot of bad basketball.

yes and I wish I wasn't so pessimistic on the dump Quese timeline .
But I don't see RU willing to buy her out unless boosters put up the money and I don't see that happening .

 

[APKnight]

The Columbia coach is good too. But I prefer Carly.

 

[rucoe89]

No Ivy coaches. Still scarred from Craig Littlepage!

 

[bac2therac]

If they do decide to move on, my pick would be Carla Berube from Princeton. Check out her record, both at Princeton and Tufts before that, a true winner!

Won't come with no ad or President

Let's ride out Coquese one year..what difference does it make

 

[MADHAT1]

Won't come with no ad or President

Let's ride out Coquese one year..what difference does it make

Quese will be staying no matter how we feel, but the longer she stays the longer it will take her replacement to overcome talent looking at Rutgers as a loser and going elsewhere .
But when she is gone,Rutgers can help make the program a winner by paying what it takes to bring in a top talent in the coaching ranks ( upcoming or already established) that can bring in the talent it takes to be a top 25 program and have the ability to make RUWBB a program considered a possible a sweet 16 team ( or better) every pre-season.

 

[bac2therac]

Quese will be staying no matter how we feel, but the longer she stays the longer it will take her replacement to overcome talent looking at Rutgers as a loser and going elsewhere .
But when she is gone,Rutgers can help make the program a winner by paying what it takes to bring in a top talent in the coaching ranks ( upcoming or already established) that can bring in the talent it takes to be a top 25 program and have the ability to make RUWBB a program considered a possible a sweet 16 team
( or better) every pre-season.

Good luck

We are no longer an attractive job

That ship sailed

 

[MADHAT1]

Good luck

We are no longer an attractive job

That ship sailed

never can tell RU might become a desirable destination under the right management.
But as it looks now, you are speaking the truth.

 

[bac2therac]

never can tell RU might become a desirable destination under the right management.
But as it looks now, you are speaking the truth.

Depends on the next AD

CVS gutted the place and Hobbs made things worse with bad hire and too long a contract

 

[Knight Time Fan_rivals]

Depends on the next AD

CVS gutted the place and Hobbs made things worse with bad hire and too long a contract

What it depends on is whether or not the next AD wants Rutgers to be a top 25 team - or not. Nothing about Rutgers as a prospective job stands out from 20 or more other Power 4 programs that are not terrible, but not top 25 either. And for most of those teams, coaches are fairly secure. I know no AD is going to want the status quo, but how much they want to improve it . . .

 

[MADHAT1]

What it depends on is whether or not the next AD wants Rutgers to be a top 25 team - or not. Nothing about Rutgers as a prospective job stands out from 20 or more other Power 4 programs that are not terrible, but not top 25 either. And for most of those teams, coaches are fairly secure. I know no AD is going to want the status quo, but how much they want to improve it . . .

I feel the next AD needs to get way from the same old same old hiring practice Rutgers seems to be stuck in for it's top 3 sports programs.
Don't offer enough to attack top tier candidates and look at the 2nd tier as those who will accept less and try to hook them into accepting .
Then after the better 2nd tier candidates don't bite , gram one that has a fairly good resume and hope for the best.
Rutgers needs to hire either a top tier candidate that is capable of building a winning team quickly or one of the better 2nd tier candidates that stands out from the crowd and is starting to prove themself a very good coach and one that looks like he/she has a great future .

Wishful thinking probably, Rutgers might have a good location, but not an expense account that has the better ones willing to come

 

[bac2therac]

Its going to take a younger hungry coach to turn this mess around

Hire Taurasi

 

[richthedentist]

Its going to take a younger hungry coach to turn this mess around

Hire Taurasi

OMG I would fire CW in the next minute if we could get Taurasi what girl would not want to play for her

 

[MADHAT1]

Its going to take a younger hungry coach to turn this mess around

Hire Taurasi

Do you think RU would meet her price, if Diana wanted to go into coaching.
You can bet if Diana put herself on the coaching merry go round, she'd have plenty of suitors and offered big bucks.
Rutgers would have to pony up big bucks to get her.
But from what I gather coaching is out:
>When asked if she would transition into coaching after the end of her playing career, the 41-year-old guard was firm about her future.
“Coach? No, no, no, no. Not coaching this generation, nope, nope, nope,” she said. “I am transitioning more into like, living on an island with a lot of coffee.”<

https://justwomenssports.com/reads/diana-taurasi-wnba-coaching-basketball-phoenix-mercury/

 

[Knight Time Fan_rivals]

Do you think RU would meet her price, if Diana wanted to go into coaching.
You can bet if Diana put herself on the coaching merry go round, she'd have plenty of suitors and offered big bucks.
Rutgers would have to pony up big bucks to get her.
But from what I gather coaching is out:
>When asked if she would transition into coaching after the end of her playing career, the 41-year-old guard was firm about her future.
“Coach? No, no, no, no. Not coaching this generation, nope, nope, nope,” she said. “I am transitioning more into like, living on an island with a lot of coffee.”<

https://justwomenssports.com/reads/diana-taurasi-wnba-coaching-basketball-phoenix-mercury/

Thank you for posting, I didn't want to burst anyone's bubbles. But no, it has long been known that her interest is not in coaching; additionally, there is absolutely no clue how good or bad a coach she would be. Former star players are tricky - some work out and some not so much. Most, at least to the best of my knowledge, end up being average coaches, possibly with good and bad periods on their resume.

 

[Scarlet4Shore]

As a totally out of left field choice, how about the coach of NYU? I know it’s D3, but she’s lost something like 10 games in 5 years. Can’t be any worse than what we have now, and what other top name would want to clean up this mess?

 

[Fat Koko]

Barbell year for metro New York basketball NYU women 26-0. NYU men 25-1. We all know about St. John’s.

On the other hand, Rutgers, Seton Hall, Columbia.

 

[MADHAT1]

As a totally out of left field choice, how about the coach of NYU? I know it’s D3, but she’s lost something like 10 games in 5 years. Can’t be any worse than what we have now, and what other top name would want to clean up this mess?

She would be a gamble but at a low price , might be worth it if RU bought Washington out and wasn't going to spend the money to bring in what we might consider top rated candidates for the job

https://gonyuathletics.com/sports/womens-basketball/roster/coaches/meg-barber/2693

 

[APKnight]

Auburn, BYU and Arizona State have already fired their WBB coaches.

 

[MADHAT1]

Auburn, BYU and Arizona State have already fired their WBB coaches.

Auburn will owe her 50% of what remained on Harris’ contract in buyout money, which stands at approximately $308,100

BYU women’s basketball coach Amber Whiting announced she is resigning after three seasons in Provo. The decision to part ways was mutual between Whiting and the school.

ASU fired Adair with 2 years left of a 5 year contract at $625,000. She’ll be receiving a million plus buyout, unless the contract states having to accept less than 100% owed on remaining time.

 

[Fat Koko]

Auburn will owe her 50% of what remained on Harris’ contract in buyout money, which stands at approximately $308,100

BYU women’s basketball coach Amber Whiting announced she is resigning after three seasons in Provo. The decision to part ways was mutual between Whiting and the school.

ASU fired Adair with 2 years left of a 5 year contract at $625,000. She’ll be receiving a million plus buyout, unless the contract states having to accept less than 100% owed on remaining time.

Coquese would be owed $2.5 million to leave.

 

[Mr_Twister]

Coquese would be owed $2.5 million to leave.

Pocket change for Big Ten athletic programs.

 

[RAS61]

I’m not really in tune to the coaches out there but what about a top assistant from one of the top teams in the country?

That's a risky move in my book, a big difference between being an assistant and a HC - how did Chris Ash work out? You want a proven leader and winner

 

[Caliknight]

Anyone who would work for peanuts.

 

[Mr_Twister]

We pushed out a Hall of Fame women’s coach, right?
It will be a long time before we push out a Hall of Fame men’s coach.

 

[MADHAT1]

We pushed out a Hall of Fame women’s coach, right?
It will be a long time before we push out a Hall of Fame men’s coach.

Actually health pushed that RU WBB HOF coach out.
But she did stay too long and didn't leave in a way that helped the program
But I think you knew that.

Theresa might be rightfully considered pushed out because Grentz felt the women's basketball program wasn't being supported enough and left for greener pastures

As for men's HOF ( Long time ago) Tom Young felt the same as Theresa and wasn't happy Rutgers turned down going to the Big East .
Tom can be considered pushed out, because he seen RU not doing what it took to compete for the better recruits and didn't want no part of the status quo Rutgers was doing .

Present day, both basketball programs are far cries from putting their coaches in the HOF and many of the fans of both programs want a change, pushing the current ones out.