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ashokan

Heisman
May 3, 2011
25,325
19,690
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KC has been a likeable team since the 60s.
Thomas was the closest any other defender came to LT
Willie Lanier was a scholar and a gentleman - who hit like a truck.
I always liked KC teams - but their off-field tragedies were just freaky (including the parade shootings)
 

fg7321

All-American
Nov 29, 2009
4,294
5,176
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Sry happy for Pops but hate the Chiefs and Mahomes. They should have lost three games this year if it wasn't for the refs.

I'm no Eagle fan but i want them to rout the Chiefs and stop constant overexposure of the Chiefs Mahomes Kelce and TS.
 

DHajekRC84

Heisman
Aug 9, 2001
30,708
19,815
0
Don’t get the hate especially with Pacheco on the team. Since the Giants are not sniffing the SB anytime soon I love watching the Chiefs. Love seeing great teams and athletes achieve great things
I still think of Deron Cherry every time I watch them. He was our first big NFL star I can remember. Should be in the HOF per most thinkers out there. 50 Interceptions in 11 year career.
 

RUich

All-Conference
Aug 2, 2001
13,552
4,003
0
Have to wonder if this may be his last season with the Chiefs. Since his broken leg, they seem to have found other more productive players to replace him. His stats since coming back have not been near his earlier ones.
Being a RB in the Not For Long league may well be his future.
 
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DHajekRC84

Heisman
Aug 9, 2001
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Have to wonder if this may be his last season with the Chiefs. Since his broken leg, they seem to have found other more productive players to replace him. His stats since coming back have not been near his earlier ones.
Being a RB in the Not For Long league may well be his future.
yeah I felt the same way watching him lately. Especially since they will need to pay him next year. That last first down was great and I hope he can do something a little special in the SB.

edit: as noted below his contract isn't up until 2025-26 season and so cheap for next year they will very likely hold onto him.
 
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Rutgers Chris

All-American
Nov 29, 2005
5,279
6,211
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Have to wonder if this may be his last season with the Chiefs. Since his broken leg, they seem to have found other more productive players to replace him. His stats since coming back have not been near his earlier ones.
Being a RB in the Not For Long league may well be his future.
Hunt is 29 and on a one year deal. Reid has always gone with the hot hand. I think Pacheco is still RB1 next year in the last year on his contract
 
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LotusAggressor_rivals

All-American
Oct 11, 2003
16,273
8,103
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yeah I felt the same way watching him lately. Especially since they will need to pay him next year. That last first down was great and I hope he can do something a little special in the SB.
The Chiefs are a winning machine. Mahomes is the only player that's irreplaceable. Everyone else is an interchangable part. That's because they draft exceptionally well and are shrewd in free agency.
 

koleszar

Heisman
Jan 1, 2010
37,496
59,006
113
Have to wonder if this may be his last season with the Chiefs. Since his broken leg, they seem to have found other more productive players to replace him. His stats since coming back have not been near his earlier ones.
Being a RB in the Not For Long league may well be his future.
He has one more year on his rookie contract. It's so paltry (under a million) that they'll keep him, there's no risk for a contract that low. Then they'll kick him to the curb when it's time to negotiate the next contract.
 

ashokan

Heisman
May 3, 2011
25,325
19,690
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Have to wonder if this may be his last season with the Chiefs. Since his broken leg, they seem to have found other more productive players to replace him. His stats since coming back have not been near his earlier ones.
Being a RB in the Not For Long league may well be his future.

I saw him run a play around edge and his leg just gave out and he fell.
But its probably too early to expect much comeback wise.
Saquon had bad injuries and he came back pretty well - he just didn't rush it
 

DHajekRC84

Heisman
Aug 9, 2001
30,708
19,815
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He has one more year on his rookie contract. It's so paltry (under a million) that they'll keep him, there's no risk for a contract that low. Then they'll kick him to the curb when it's time to negotiate the next contract.
oh, I thought it was his final year this year...in that case...you're probably right.
 

Willow88!

Senior
Oct 13, 2014
867
803
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no brainer.. not rooting for the Philly Pigeons... so hoping KC makes it 3 in row.
..but for Pacheco being injured and not used like he was in the past, think they will move on and avoid paying him more in future. That being said, I hope he winds up with the GIANTS and bring the prodigal son home to NJ. Can always hope, right?
 

LeapinLou

All-American
Jul 24, 2001
13,279
7,034
113
It seems like the Chiefs gave him opportunities, but he hasn't been himself. It's definitely nice to see him make yards after contact and get that critical first down at the end. Hopefully, he'll be back to what he was next season.
 

patk89

All-Conference
Jul 25, 2001
6,336
2,460
78
He needs to bounce back in training camp next year. Otherwise will be replaced by a younger player/draft pick. Good news is that he was successful enough to merit a contract with another team. With significant guaranteed money.
 

WhiteBus

Heisman
Oct 4, 2011
39,520
21,922
113
He needs to bounce back in training camp next year. Otherwise will be replaced by a younger player/draft pick. Good news is that he was successful enough to merit a contract with another team. With significant guaranteed money.
He's not going anywhere next year. He will be on the team. He's under contract while Hunt is not for next season.
 

Knight Shift

Heisman
May 19, 2011
89,249
87,194
113
He has one more year on his rookie contract. It's so paltry (under a million) that they'll keep him, there's no risk for a contract that low. Then they'll kick him to the curb when it's time to negotiate the next contract.
And the Eagles will pick him up to play when Barkley gets hurt and/or retires.
 

newell138

Heisman
Aug 1, 2001
37,390
48,396
112
no brainer.. not rooting for the Philly Pigeons... so hoping KC makes it 3 in row.
..but for Pacheco being injured and not used like he was in the past, think they will move on and avoid paying him more in future. That being said, I hope he winds up with the GIANTS and bring the prodigal son home to NJ. Can always hope, right?
he grew up in Vineland, home would be the Eagles for him
 
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newell138

Heisman
Aug 1, 2001
37,390
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He has one more year on his rookie contract. It's so paltry (under a million) that they'll keep him, there's no risk for a contract that low. Then they'll kick him to the curb when it's time to negotiate the next contract.
he also gets another $80K (losing team) or $160K (winning team) for being in the SB
 

knightfan7

Heisman
Jul 30, 2003
96,045
69,868
113
KC has been a likeable team since the 60s.
Thomas was the closest any other defender came to LT
Willie Lanier was a scholar and a gentleman - who hit like a truck.
I always liked KC teams - but their off-field tragedies were just freaky (including the parade shootings)
Len Dawson, Buck Buchanan, Curly Culp, EJ Holub, Ernie Ladd, and on.

When Dawson wasn't doing car commercials, during the off season he did sports for one of the local stations.
 
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What a raw deal for running backs. 4 years making almost no coin and then it’s a big ? They should have some special type of contract for that position since the shelf life is so short. Pachecos profile given he’s on the chiefs is so high. People at my work in the south and Texas know who he is. Yet he’s not set for life. He needs that second contract.
 
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knightfan7

Heisman
Jul 30, 2003
96,045
69,868
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Not that it's life changing but in addition to his contract, he'll have made around around $1 million in playoff money should the Chiefs win #3. Not bad for a 7th Round pick.
 
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ashokan

Heisman
May 3, 2011
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Len Dawson, Buck Buchanan, Curly Culp, EJ Holub, Ernie Ladd, and on.

When Dawson wasn't doing car commercials, during the off season he did sports for one of the local stations.

I had started to post the names of players I liked but it got too long. I do think Hank Stram (coach in the suit in NFL films) was a good guy along with Marty Schottenheimer. I cant forget Christian Okoye the Nigerian Nightmare. He was one of those Chiefs that looked scary in pads and he played hard but was a likeable player


 
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WhiteBus

Heisman
Oct 4, 2011
39,520
21,922
113
I think we will see better contracts for RBs going forward. The running game is increasing and having a guy like Barkley is raising eyebrows with all the teams trying to improve!
 

DHajekRC84

Heisman
Aug 9, 2001
30,708
19,815
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I had started to post the names of players I liked but it got too long. I do think Hank Stram (coach in the suit in NFL films) was a good guy along with Marty Schottenheimer. I cant forget Christian Okoye the Nigerian Nightmare. He was one of those Chiefs that looked scary in pads and he played hard but was a likeable player


Who can possibly forget to "matriculate up the field"?

Hated them back then cause they beat Joe Capp and my Vikings for their first of oh fer four SB record.

Dave Osborn, Gene Washington, and the Purple People Eaters.
 
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RUPete

Heisman
Feb 5, 2003
26,841
16,113
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Don’t get the hate especially with Pacheco on the team. Since the Giants are not sniffing the SB anytime soon I love watching the Chiefs. Love seeing great teams and athletes achieve great things
People start to hate consistent success. We have seen it with the Patriots, Yankees and now the Chiefs. The Cowboys back in the day, etc. The hate may be the greatest compliment that can be given.
 

RUPete

Heisman
Feb 5, 2003
26,841
16,113
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I think we will see better contracts for RBs going forward. The running game is increasing and having a guy like Barkley is raising eyebrows with all the teams trying to improve!
Agree. All you hear from coaches and announcers these days is "complementary football." Well, what's a key element to playing complementary football successfully? Still need to invest in and develop good OLs though. They will continue to make money and may do even better along with the RBs.
 

WhiteBus

Heisman
Oct 4, 2011
39,520
21,922
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People start to hate consistent success. We have seen it with the Patriots, Yankees and now the Chiefs. The Cowboys back in the day, etc. The hate may be the greatest compliment that can be given.
With the exception of the Patriots, I enjoy seeing dynasties, seeing how far they can go. The first was the Green Bay Packers who lit up the 60 including the first two. Kansas City won't be the first team to win three NFL Titles as Green did that in the mid 60s.
Then came the Oakland A's, 3 in a row. The 90s had two great dynasties in the NFL, Cowboys and 49ers. Loved all those years!
 

WhiteBus

Heisman
Oct 4, 2011
39,520
21,922
113
Thanks for bringing up Dino, I thought he played for them but couldn't remember. We have a nice little history going there.
Rutgers players love playing for KC, they get to continue to wear red!!
 

RUPete

Heisman
Feb 5, 2003
26,841
16,113
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With the exception of the Patriots, I enjoy seeing dynasties, seeing how far they can go. The first was the Green Bay Packers who lit up the 60 including the first two. Kansas City won't be the first team to win three NFL Titles as Green did that in the mid 60s.
Then came the Oakland A's, 3 in a row. The 90s had two great dynasties in the NFL, Cowboys and 49ers. Loved all those years!
I’m not a big dynasty guy, but I wish fans would admit to what’s at the root of the hatred and not hide behind league/reffing conspiracy nonsense.
 

WhiteBus

Heisman
Oct 4, 2011
39,520
21,922
113
I’m not a big dynasty guy, but I wish fans would admit to what’s at the root of the hatred and not hide behind league/reffing conspiracy nonsense.
Agree.
I've been lucky in choosing my teams when they weren't dynasties but becoming one. Yankees, I first started following them in '66. Later that year the Dallas Cowboys. And then finally the NJ Devils. My only team I bought season tickets for besides Rutgers. Year 1, I started with a 10 game plan but went full plan after attending just 2 games in their first year after leaving Colorado.
Lots of great sports seasons in my life time.
 

WhiteBus

Heisman
Oct 4, 2011
39,520
21,922
113
I had started to post the names of players I liked but it got too long. I do think Hank Stram (coach in the suit in NFL films) was a good guy along with Marty Schottenheimer. I cant forget Christian Okoye the Nigerian Nightmare. He was one of those Chiefs that looked scary in pads and he played hard but was a likeable player


Hank Stram was loved by his players.