OT: 55years ago today Jimmy Page's New Yardbirds go live

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It’s funny, music is very important to me but yet I’ve probably been to only around 100 concerts in my life. I know people that have seen Springsteen over 100 times. I’ve been pretty fortunate , most concerts I’ve been to have been good to very good. There were a few bad ones. Back in the mid 70s I saw Dickey Betts with his band Great Southern at The Capital Theater in Passaic. At the time, Betts was one of my favorite musicians (this was during the Allman’s first breakup in 1976). He played about 1 song and stormed off stage. I didn’t realize at the time that he had an alcohol problem and was obviously impaired and didn’t want to play. I also saw The Grateful Dead at the Spectrum in ‘78 I believe. That was a long night. A number of meandering jams (and I like jams) that didn’t go anywhere. I saw both of those groups later and they were very good. Some of the best live performances I’ve seen were Steely Dan, Elton John, Santana, Springsteen, The Who, The Allman Bros, Eric Clapton, Tedeschi Trucks Band, Hall & Oats, Robert Randolph, The Doobie Brothers, The Black Keys among others.
Heroine problems for Betts also.
Hung with him and Butch many times, he was a great dude… as inconspicuous as a human could be.
Dickey and Butch would sit in the bleachers of Pirates spring training games in cutoff shorts, no shirts, drinking beer…. No one had a clue who they were.
They had no interest in me leaving them tickets in the grandstand.
 
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Incoming....🔥🔥🔥🔥

‘Becoming Led Zeppelin': Movie Review​

Led Zeppelin‘s music is rightfully the star of the band’s new documentary.

Becoming Led Zeppelin compellingly tells the story of the group’s early years, using previously unreleased concert and studio footage and new interviews to demonstrate how quickly and naturally the pieces fell into place to form one of rock’s most remarkable bands.

The musical segments sound amazing, even when the visual footage is primitive, or in one case, warped badly enough to warrant a disclaimer. The audience at one early show is stunned by the group’s unexpected power, staring in an unbelieving daze or covering their ears and looking flat-out frightened.

Jimmy Page, Robert Plant and John Paul Jones tell their stories separately throughout the movie; a frequent and endearing highlight of Becoming Led Zeppelin is seeing their real-time reactions to hearing rare interviews with their late drummer John Bonham. Plant is particularly emotional when hearing Bonham discuss their friendship at the movie’s end.

Page and Jones talk about the lessons they learned during their years in the high-pressure world as session musicians, working with everybody from the Kinks to Lulu to the Rolling Stones and Shirley Bassey (both future Zeppelin members collaborated on her theme song for the James Bond movie Goldfinger). Meanwhile, Plant and Bonham share amusing stories about their early years in club bands.

One of the main successes of Becoming Led Zeppelin is demonstrating just how well Page planned for the leap from session musician to bandleader. He had and followed a clear plan for every aspect of his new group’s career – from recording their 1969 self-titled debut album with his own money, then using that leverage to obtain a much better record contract, to intentionally adding the outlandish middle instrumental section to Led Zeppelin II‘s “Whole Lotta Love” to keep it off the singles chart so Led Zeppelin would be judged on their albums.

The movie shows the full breadth of Page’s vision for the sound of his new band, as he takes what he learned from working in different genres to form a wide-ranging yet cohesive style, drawing on blues, rock, folk and more. Musical segments focusing on his guitar work in varying styles illustrate what a leap forward this was for hard rock music.

As expected from a band-sanctioned documentary, there’s barely a speck of dirt or gossip in Becoming Led Zeppelin. The closest the film gets is Plant, who was married, vaguely recalling a lot of drugs and girls during the group’s first U.S. tour.

It also helps that in the years the movie covers, Led Zeppelin was in their honeymoon phase and quickly becoming one of the biggest bands in the world; the conflicts, challenges and tragedies they’d face were still years away.
 

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I look forward to seeing the Led Zeppelin movie/documentary. Very interesting time in rock music history. Also, I highly recommend the movie “A Complete Unknown”, which examines the period of Bob Dylan’s arrival in NYC in 1961 , establishing himself in the Folk music revival of the early ‘60’s to his controversial electrified performance at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival. It is very well done and really captures the spirit of that era. The acting is first rate throughout the movie.
 
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The Yardbirds were one of those groups who had a constantly changing line-up of great musicians. Eric Clapton was there near the start and left early. By 1968, some future Zep members had to fulfill the Yardbirds' performance contract despite the fact the group wanted to be something else. So they performed as the "New Yardbirds."

The Who drummer Keith Moon watched them perform and was asked his opinion of the group. He then told them something like, "You will go over like a lead zeppelin." And the rest is history.
That's what I thought the motivation was when I read teh OP post. Never thought of that before and happy to see it is correct. It makes sense.
 

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Heroine problems for Betts also.
Hung with him and Butch many times, he was a great dude… as inconspicuous as a human could be.
Dickey and Butch would sit in the bleachers of Pirates spring training games in cutoff shorts, no shirts, drinking beer…. No one had a clue who they were.
They had no interest in me leaving them tickets in the grandstand.
Butch was the nephew of former major leaguer Virgil Trucks, who threw 2 no hitters in 1952, including one over the Yanks....and was 5-19 that year!
 
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Communication Breakdown from the Live On Blueberry Hill Bootleg. Also includes Good Times Bad Times, For What It's Worth by Buffalo Springfield, and lyrics from I Saw Her Standing There by The Beatles.
 

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I never saw LZ live but I remember reading bad reviews from MSG shows. I recall they weren't a lock for delivering live.
I saw "Plant and Page" during their mid 90s tour , excellent shows.

But, they famously bombed at Live Aid in 85. If you can find it anywhere, it is as bad as it gets.
 
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Very nice discussion with Robert Plant on The Colbert Show. Discussing his new band, his roots in the UK and his love of American roots music:




Great interview-thanks. I like how he acknowledged his vocal struggles (during Zep) with some humor. But man, the Stones were spot on: Time Waits For No One...remember this guy...
 
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I saw "Plant and Page" during their mid 90s tour , excellent shows.

But, they famously bombed at Live Aid in 85. If you can find it anywhere, it is as bad as it gets.
Rock&Roll to start their Live Aid performance was horrible because of Plant's voice--I always wondered if he was too pumped-up for the event and forgot he had lost his searing vocal range 10 years ago. Whole Lotta Love wasn't great but not bad either imo. I did think the guys pulled it together and were solid on Stairway--not Song Remains the Same level--but still pretty good.
 
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Stairway again...25 years in a row. #Dynasty
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Don’t tell Robert Plant 😉. Some of my favorite Zep songs, Ten Years Gone, What is and Never Should Be, Over The Hills and Far Away, Ramble On, The Rain Song, Going To California , Gallows Pole among others. I’m currently learning Black Dog, always liked the guitar riff in that song:

 
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Don’t tell Robert Plant 😉. Some of my favorite Zep songs, Ten Years Gone, What is and Never Should Be, Over The Hills and Far Away, Ramble On, The Rain Song, Going To California , Gallows Pole among others. I’m currently learning Black Dog, always liked the guitar riff in that song:

I know, Plant is so strange about Stairway--artists lol. Page didn't like Living Loving Maid and it's awesome. Ramble On and What Is & What Should Never Be are top 10 Zep songs for me. Gallows Pole is a great under-the-radar Zep song too. Rain Song another classic that doesn't get the headlines--although I recall it being a big hit with girlfriends in H.S. :cool:
 
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They were a great live band, but their improvisational approach led to some inconsistency. That was true of a lot of bands from that era.
After Plant's vocal chord surgery c.'73-74 he was not the same, and he had some rough shows if he didn't rest his voice properly (re: '85 Live Aid). Many reports in the mid-70s about Page's heroin addiction and Bonzo's alcoholism hurting their concert performances from time to time too; but in their prime live: GOATS.
 
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Led Zeppelin's 'Whole Lotta Love' ranked 'Best Guitar Riff of All Time'
Led Zeppelin's "Whole Lotta Love" features the greatest guitar riff of all time, according to a ranking from Guitar World. Jimmy Page's iconic double-string riff narrowly beat tracks like "Crazy Train" and "Back in Black" to take the top spot.

"Whole Lotta Love" was Led Zeppelin's first major hit in the United States, serving as the opening track on their second studio album and becoming their first single to break into the Top 10. It peaked at No. 4 on the Billboard Hot 100, which was a massive accomplishment for such a hard rock track.
 

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Led Zeppelin's 'Whole Lotta Love' ranked 'Best Guitar Riff of All Time'
Led Zeppelin's "Whole Lotta Love" features the greatest guitar riff of all time, according to a ranking from Guitar World. Jimmy Page's iconic double-string riff narrowly beat tracks like "Crazy Train" and "Back in Black" to take the top spot.

"Whole Lotta Love" was Led Zeppelin's first major hit in the United States, serving as the opening track on their second studio album and becoming their first single to break into the Top 10. It peaked at No. 4 on the Billboard Hot 100, which was a massive accomplishment for such a hard rock track.


Excellent, but off the top of my head I would put it behind Hendrix "Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)" , Pink Floyd "Comfortly Numb" and "Gimme Shelter" by the Stones.
 

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A guitar “riff” is a repeating rhythmic note pattern that helps form the foundation of the song . A guitar “lick” is a melodic note figure that embellishes the melody and is played over a chord. A guitar “solo” is usually an improvised melody of notes played over the chord progression and usually extends for at least 8 bars of the song. There always seems to be confusion over those things. As for the best of these things in rock music, it’s all very subjective. As for some of my favorite riffs: Layla (Duane Allman - Derek & The Dominos), Manic Depression (Jimi Hendrix Experience), Sunshine of Your Love (Eric Clapton- Cream), Smokestack Lightening (Hubert Sumlin - Howlin Wolf), Cold Shot (Stevie Ray Vaughan), Beck’s Bolero (Jeff Beck), Jumping Jack Flash (Keith Richards - I think- Rolling Stones), Black Dog ( Jimmy Page - Led Zeppelin). Many others, I’m forgetting a lot. Could do a whole thread on guitar solos.
 
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Global tributes mark John Bonham’s 78th birthday (5/31/1948)​

Marking what would have been John Bonham’s 78th birthday, fans and music outlets are revisiting his legacy as Led Zeppelin’s powerhouse drummer. Rolling Stone ranked him number one among rock drummers, crediting him with changing rock drumming from the band’s debut. His death in 1980 led Led Zeppelin to disband rather than replace him, a testament to his unique role in their music and identity.