OT: The New Ivies
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Most if not all college protesters are not saying this
If one is its wrong..if Jewish students feel unsafe...if classes are cancelled..if graduations are cancelled its wrong
I can tell you need better nees sources
You fight power w power
Not with compromises and empty promises
Want these Neanderthals to cease the nonsense?
Arrest them
Don’t release them 20 minutes later
If that doesn’t work, start using teargas and rubber bullets
Mobilize your local police force with a mission to stop this nonsense, no matter what
Bring in the national guard if need be
And, I know this sounds crazy… actually convict the guilty parties with strict penalties
Abbott and RDS aren’t messing around, yet New York & Chicago, once two thriving cities, are in chaos (and candidly, already were prior to this)
The phrase “we don’t negotiate with terroists” aptly fits what’s going on on these college campuses
The choice is clear
Act Florida & Texas, and they end
Act like New York, California & Illinois… and the chaos continues
Not with compromises and empty promises
Want these Neanderthals to cease the nonsense?
Arrest them
Don’t release them 20 minutes later
If that doesn’t work, start using teargas and rubber bullets
Mobilize your local police force with a mission to stop this nonsense, no matter what
Bring in the national guard if need be
And, I know this sounds crazy… actually convict the guilty parties with strict penalties
Abbott and RDS aren’t messing around, yet New York & Chicago, once two thriving cities, are in chaos (and candidly, already were prior to this)
The phrase “we don’t negotiate with terroists” aptly fits what’s going on on these college campuses
The choice is clear
Act Florida & Texas, and they end
Act like New York, California & Illinois… and the chaos continues
Two different points of view, same feeling
Report: Most Jewish, Muslim students fearful amid conflict
>The surveys found students have reason to be afraid, with real acts of violence happening on campuses and antisemitic and Islamophobic sentiments expressed by a significant number, albeit a minority, of their peers. But the report also concluded their fears may be partly driven by fundamental misunderstandings of each other’s views of the conflict, reduced to slogans in impassioned campus protests.<
https://www.insidehighered.com/news...-jewish-muslim-students-fearful-amid-conflict
Report: Most Jewish, Muslim students fearful amid conflict
>The surveys found students have reason to be afraid, with real acts of violence happening on campuses and antisemitic and Islamophobic sentiments expressed by a significant number, albeit a minority, of their peers. But the report also concluded their fears may be partly driven by fundamental misunderstandings of each other’s views of the conflict, reduced to slogans in impassioned campus protests.<
https://www.insidehighered.com/news...-jewish-muslim-students-fearful-amid-conflict
Then why aren’t the publicly denouncing the bad apples?
If it’s not a stand for, they should disassociate themselves from those idiots immediately
You really think governor hair gel is going to do anything to stop this?
Cali gonna Cali
A kid that works a job after school should get as much credit for extracurricular activities than any of those you listed.
Most of these protestors are hiding their true intent behind the veneer of asking for aid to Gaza. In reality, they are arguing for the dissolution of Israel as a nation state and forced expulsion of its current inhabitants. In its place will be a new, strong Palestinian nation backed by Iran with support from China and Russia.
The ironic part is the bulk of the Sunni Arab and Muslim world doesn’t want a strong Palestine.
Yep
Completely normal activity
Definitely want to send my daughter to a school that allows this
Where art thou, King Newsome, to stop this madness?
Wrong ! And ethically and morally - all of these “protesters” and yourself are on the wrong side of history.
You also do realize that these “protesters” are yelling for “ ceasefire now” and yet its their team - Hamas - that constantly declines the ceasefire negotiations by not releasing the hostages.
It’s a simple equation - Hamas Frees the Hostages and hostilities end - yet your “ right side of thing protesters” refuse and or are too dumb to understand this.
I never could imagine a country gets 1,400 of its innocent civilians butchered by savage terrorists which started this war and empathy on college campuses and with many others is with the savages.
Talk about misguided people and a world upside down !
Stupid statement , you don’t know that . I’ve seen enough videos and interviews with the rioters ( stop calling them protestors) to know exactly what they are saying and doing. Good try .
They are sick people Phil
Truely a demented bunch of wackos
Here's a slightly different take regarding ROI: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/news...vate-not-all-elite-colleges-deliver-equal-roi
It concedes that ivies are worth the expense. For those that don't get into an ivy (most don't) state flagships offer the best option. Essentially, it's not worth financing a "new ivy" if you can't get into an actual ivy.
It concedes that ivies are worth the expense. For those that don't get into an ivy (most don't) state flagships offer the best option. Essentially, it's not worth financing a "new ivy" if you can't get into an actual ivy.
Where and how are you getting fed this information?
I dont believe i am wrong with the statement that most if not all “college” protesters are saying those things.
Columbia and NYPD could be giving wrong information, but they were saying (as of last night) the people in Hamilton Hall were not college students.
So what..that makescit worse
The college students behavior havent been so virtuous anyhow
Rampant anti semitism in campuses for over 6 months now
Well said
Its unimaginable this environment has been allowed to grow and fester like this for months
Its been normalized
So what?
Let's blame all the fans that attended the UMASS (Marcus Camby team) Rutgers game that ended at halftime.
I am blaming you for that. Guessing Sweat Pea was just a pup.
What were they protesting? I don't remember.
Let's see what the facts end up. Although there were very few supposedly in the building so you never know.
Yeah, we're all hypocrites. It's human nature. For me the key is to be as self-aware as possible about it, and try to manage it.
Still working at it, though.
Many people who violently invaded the very capitol of our nation (or condone/praise this action) will tell you that these protests are horrifying. Many who practice violence and destruction in these protests are the first to condemn what was done on January 6, 2021 in Washington.
Respect you Fig but that’s Strawman 101 / false equivalency stuff right there
I was at that game and super pissed if they pulled that, and a majority of the fans booed those morons for doing that and were angry off they ruined the entire game
I don’t see a majority of the students, who allegedly do not share the same core values as the rabble rousers in question, denouncing themselves from the alleged separate groups activity
I think that’s all we can do, is to try to improve every day, be better people, more accepting and become more self-aware, and then hand on those traits to the younger generation, in order to leave the world a better place when we exit eternity
They need to figure it out fast.
Do you really think the Columbia student actually shares those values? Seriously? If so, you think it was the Columbia education to blame????
I think it is logical to think they are just against the way Israel is fighting this war and the fact that the United States is funding it.
Obviously this thing isn't clear and simple...black and white.
Hopefully everyone on each side of the argument acknowledges innocent people are being killed. To me the argument is what is acceptable of a response from Israel. It isn't simple.
which is exactly what I believe the intentions of the "average college protesters". They see something they think isn't right and taking a risk and doing something about it. The same as those students that protested the Vietnam war.
All????? Surely you jest. Over 50%? I don't know but the percentage is significant.
If they weren't Columbia students why was a Columbia professor demanding they were brought food since they "had meal plans". let me guess, you didn't see that either
Yes, I think some of them do
Anti-Semitism is rapid throughout the nation, and especially on these Ivy League campuses
The blame is widespread.
Colleges have a lot to do with it with the indoctrination they’re doing a students, and obviously parents not raising them right as well as social media, etc. have a lot to do with it.
Again, I ask if they are against what is being portrayed of them in the media, why are they not actively speaking out against it?
Why are they not denouncing what’s going on if they do not support that stance?
And for those who were acting peaceful and doing so in a responsible, mature way, that is well within their right whether or not any of us agree with their principles or motives
It’s when laws are being broken and common decency is being violated, which, in this case, both are happening widespread, that the issue becomes glaring