Is this some of work action or protest

ScarletDave

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Easily the worst crew this season, and that's saying a lot.
This. Every home game I say it cant get any worse. Somehow the last 5 games it gets worse each one. Nebraska, then Wisconsin which was the worst I ever saw despite us winning, Northwestern with the Ts and Boo Buie pushing his elbow the entire game, and no travels, and now tonight, three technicals. So dumb. How could it get worse I ask, Michigan game we’ll get 2 players and Pike thrown out
 

dconifer0

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Complaining about refereeing in every loss is not what this thread is about. I am kind of interested in the point that Loyal has raised...
 

RUJMM78

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The refs really loss control of the game in the second half which got the fans into the game.Sadly,it had very little affect because Rutgers offense was woeful and the defensive rebounding was abysmal.
 
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The 2 or 3 post game fights this year
After that TA&MC-UIW fight, I’ve seen a LOT of technicals all across the country this week. I’d be shocked if there wasn’t a message sent this week about cleaning things up. Better to shut it down early and stop some of this stuff, rather than let a game reach that point.

FWIW, the crew you had today had a guy that works the Final Four every year, a guy that works into the second week, and a guy that has been working first round games…so it’s a pretty solid group of officials.
 
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Mag earned his T. The other two were more of the ******* stupid **** we've been seeing for the past few weeks. You know it's bad when the announcers are going to town on the refs for the second straight game now.
 

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I mean the Maryland guy got T'd up for yelling "and one". Why is that a T? How is that going to lead to a fight? And if that's a T, why aren't the rest of Reese's antics or even the **** the bench does after made threes? There's absolutely no consistency or logic to any of it.
 

dconifer0

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I mean the Maryland guy got T'd up for yelling "and one". Why is that a T? How is that going to lead to a fight? And if that's a T, why aren't the rest of Reese's antics or even the **** the bench does after made threes? There's absolutely no consistency or logic to any of it.
I don't have a clue about why there are suddenly more T's.

But maybe, for the example you cited, it is considered a direct criticism by the Maryland player (ha ha, a freshman to boot) in the face of the referee for the referee to call for "And one" when in fact it wasn't called. I could understand the referees having a policy against that...
 

fluoxetine

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I don't have a clue about why there are suddenly more T's.

But maybe, for the example you cited, it is considered a direct criticism by the Maryland player (ha ha, a freshman to boot) in the face of the referee for the referee to call for "And one" when in fact it wasn't called. I could understand the referees having a policy against that...
I see the logic there but
(1) people yell and-1 literally all the time. Like I hear it on TV after 50% of contested layups (I'm obviously exaggerating, but you get my point).
(2) That is just like the weakest possible "criticism". If you wanted to logically T someone up for that I would have to imagine you would need to hand out dozens of Ts in the average game for consistency.

Almost any one of these you could shoehorn some logic in for but it's the randomness (and the fact that you'd have to T people up like every two minutes to be consistent with the logic) that makes it so dumb.
 
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dconifer0

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I see the logic there but
(1) people yell and-1 literally all the time. Like I hear it on TV after 50% of contested layups (I'm obviously exaggerating, but you get my point).
(2) That is just like the weakest possible "criticism". If you wanted to logically T someone up for that I would have to imagine you would need to hand out dozens of Ts in the average game for consistency.

Almost any one of these you could shoehorn some logic in for but it's the randomness (and the fact that you'd have to T people up like every two minutes to be consistent with the logic) that makes it so dumb.
Agree. Also, I can't believe you could understand my near-broken English in my post. Guess it's too late to edit...
 
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RU MAN

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Besides the officials missing two over-and-backs and a 10-second violation on Maryland, I thought the turning point in the second half was when we got it down to 10, 47-37 and that BS technical on Austin totally destroyed the momentum for us, and the Terps went on a 7-0 run. That right there, a RIDICULOUS call that even Steve Bardo bitched about, was the dagger in the heart for any kind of comeback. That technical called right there was absurd. You can't punish a kid for shouting out. He didn't even aim his excitement at anybody. Truly atrocious.
 

RUforJERSEY

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Actually I was worried about some action in the handshake line today. That game was that chippy and mouthy in my eyes. But by the time the game ended it seemed like J. Williams was,the only one who had any fire left.
 

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I mean the Maryland guy got T'd up for yelling "and one". Why is that a T? How is that going to lead to a fight? And if that's a T, why aren't the rest of Reese's antics or even the **** the bench does after made threes? There's absolutely no consistency or logic to any of it.
That’s my issue, I don’t care if they want to eliminate trash talk and possibly escalating to issues such as fights, however it is just randomly being applied right now. They should call it like 16 times a game as these guys woof constantly, especially Reese. It is being applied randomly out of nowhere, really stupid.
 

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That’s my issue, I don’t care if they want to eliminate trash talk and possibly escalating to issues such as fights, however it is just randomly being applied right now. They should call it like 16 times a game as these guys woof constantly, especially Reese. It is being applied randomly out of nowhere, really stupid.
A better idea, IMO, is to let trash talk go and charge people who get in fights with assault and battery. Like how it works outside of basketball.
 

mugrat86

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Besides the officials missing two over-and-backs and a 10-second violation on Maryland, I thought the turning point in the second half was when we got it down to 10, 47-37 and that BS technical on Austin totally destroyed the momentum for us, and the Terps went on a 7-0 run. That right there, a RIDICULOUS call that even Steve Bardo bitched about, was the dagger in the heart for any kind of comeback. That technical called right there was absurd. You can't punish a kid for shouting out. He didn't even aim his excitement at anybody. Truly atrocious.
I was at the game. What was that technical all about
 
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RU MAN

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I was at the game. What was that technical all about
It appeared that Austin just yelled out, because he was excited, about the block and not because he was trying to show up Reese. And the official just T-d him up. It was really uncalled for by that official, and Steve Bardo on the broadcast ripped the official for the T against Austin. Just a terrible call at the worst possible moment. ]

For those that say that officials even out their calls and don't affect the game one way or another, I say BULL ****. That uncalled for T destroyed our momentum, gave Maryland a chance to breathe, and then the whole game turned on that $hitty call and Maryland went on a 7-0 run.
 

BigEastPhil

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I sit 30 feet from where the tech foul was called.

Austin scored and then trash talked to a Maryland player.

Big deal! It wasn’t over the line and it’s been going on forever.

It’s clear some type of edict was communicated to the Refs which is unfortunate!

Let the game be as is with the sporadic trash talk as long as it’s not over the line.

If the refs are nervous about tensions boiling over - then warn the benches and / or then cancel the handshake after the game ! Would anyone really care if players don’t say “good game” to one another !
 

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I sit 30 feet from where the tech foul was called.

Austin scored and then trash talked to a Maryland player.

Big deal! It wasn’t over the line and it’s been going on forever.

It’s clear some type of edict was communicated to the Refs which is unfortunate!

Let the game be as is with the sporadic trash talk as long as it’s not over the line.

If the refs are nervous about tensions boiling over - then warn the benches and / or then cancel the handshake after the game ! Would anyone really care if players don’t say “good game” to one another !
The T was after Austin blocked a shot
 

RU MAN

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I sit 30 feet from where the tech foul was called.

Austin scored and then trash talked to a Maryland player.

Big deal! It wasn’t over the line and it’s been going on forever.

It’s clear some type of edict was communicated to the Refs which is unfortunate!

Let the game be as is with the sporadic trash talk as long as it’s not over the line.

If the refs are nervous about tensions boiling over - then warn the benches and / or then cancel the handshake after the game ! Would anyone really care if players don’t say “good game” to one another !
Sorry, Phil, but they played it over and over again on instant replay, and Austin did NOT trash talk at ANY specific player, especially Reese. He was just excited and emotional about that play because we were changing the momentum, which had completely changed in our direction. After the BS call, everything changed in Maryland's direction, as they went on a 7-0 run. Even Steve Bardo ripped the official and thought it was a total BS CALL!

I don't know what you think you saw, but you saw wrong. The B1G network played it over and over and showed that Austin was just excited in the moment. Geez. If you can't get emotional in making a good play, then why even play the game. He was NOT showing up the opponent.
 

BigEastPhil

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Sorry, Phil, but they played it over and over again on instant replay, and Austin did NOT trash talk at ANY specific player, especially Reese. He was just excited and emotional about that play because we were changing the momentum, which had completely changed in our direction. After the BS call, everything changed in Maryland's direction, as they went on a 7-0 run. Even Steve Bardo ripped the official and thought it was a total BS CALL!

I don't know what you think you saw, but you saw wrong. The B1G network played it over and over and showed that Austin was just excited in the moment. Geez. If you can't get emotional in making a good play, then why even play the game. He was NOT showing up the opponent.
Thanks for the clarification.

From my vantage point and probably that of the ref as well - it appeared Williams did trash talk the Maryland player.

Regardless a nonsense call and even more egregious given the above explanation.
 
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Shelby65

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I would hate it as a player. They're taking the emotion out of the game. Would be like getting a sack or big hit in football on 3rd or 4th down and you just need to be like a robot and run back to the huddle, no celebrating.
Doesn’t take emotion out of the game. You just can’t gloat and taunt in the opponent’s face.

an MD player hit a three, turned and faced the other way as he ran back to play D. He flexed and shouted toward no one in particular. That’s emotion and that’s fine.
 
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