Ur opponent is bigger stronger quicker

ImBadRU

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More explosive and has better shooters at every position. And it's not even close. What has ur coach done wrong? How has he failed?
 

RAC93

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I said it multiple times and I’ll say it again, it was men vs. boys, especially our guards. Cliff was the only one who could hang with them physically. Did Mag even show up today?
 
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The RUT

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I mean he struggled with recruiting.

That’s why people complained about it when it was happening and they were shouted down.

Has he had some hits on the recruiting trail? Yes.

Is the 2024 class insane? Yes.

But once we started winning and made the tournament we should not have been taking risks on developmental pieces.
 

sct1111

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The roster isn't well put together but it was also expected that Cam and Mulcahy were going to be here. They're worth 3 more wins already this year imo.
 

The RUT

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The roster isn't well put together but it was also expected that Cam and Mulcahy were going to be here. They're worth 3 more wins already this year imo.
This is not an excuse.

Cam and Paul both could have optioned to play in Europe this season and you’re putting a lot of value in Cam’s loyalty given he was a rental for us.

Even with the thought that they would be here, you still need solid backups for when they go to the bench with the thought that they would take over the following year.

The guard drop off is significant. All of these guys are early Pike year guards.

That’s a really bad thing given we’re in year 8(9?).
 

goru7

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This is not an excuse.

Cam and Paul both could have optioned to play in Europe this season and you’re putting a lot of value in Cam’s loyalty given he was a rental for us.

Even with the thought that they would be here, you still need solid backups for when they go to the bench with the thought that they would take over the following year.

The guard drop off is significant. All of these guys are early Pike year guards.

That’s a really bad thing given we’re in year 8(9?).
Let’s look at it both ways. Pike losing Cam and Paul after the portal closed for undergrads left him in a tough position. He was thinking those 2 with Noah and Derek makes the team a position of strength and JMike can watch and learn. After Paul and Cam are gone , he settled for an injured Austin and a suspended J. Williams . Noah has not flourished , Austin is just getting healthy and has limitations and JWill has not played.
Now should Pike have gone out immediately and gotten the best guard in the portal. Probably yes and a failure there.
But I laid out what he thought the bench would be and it is not what he thought.
 

sct1111

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This is not an excuse.

Cam and Paul both could have optioned to play in Europe this season and you’re putting a lot of value in Cam’s loyalty given he was a rental for us.

Even with the thought that they would be here, you still need solid backups for when they go to the bench with the thought that they would take over the following year.

The guard drop off is significant. All of these guys are early Pike year guards.

That’s a really bad thing given we’re in year 8(9?).
But what we have is a bunch of role players at guard. Typically that's what your bench is made of to spell your starters which would have been Cam and Paul. That is unless you're Duke or Kentucky having a bunch of 4 and 5 stars coming off your bench.
 
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Let’s look at it both ways. Pike losing Cam and Paul after the portal closed for undergrads left him in a tough position. He was thinking those 2 with Noah and Derek makes the team a position of strength and JMike can watch and learn. After Paul and Cam are gone , he settled for an injured Austin and a suspended J. Williams . Noah has not flourished , Austin is just getting healthy and has limitations and JWill has not played.
Now should Pike have gone out immediately and gotten the best guard in the portal. Probably yes and a failure there.
But I laid out what he thought the bench would be and it is not what he thought.
But what we have is a bunch of role players at guard. Typically that's what your bench is made of to spell your starters which would have been Cam and Paul. That is unless you're Duke or Kentucky having a bunch of 4 and 5 stars coming off your bench.
You guys are missing the point here. I understand things didn’t break well.

My issue is that Paul and Cam were done after this year regardless, and there’s no one in the pipeline to replace them.

Yes, there’s Ace and Dylan. They’re one and done, and you don’t bank the foundation of your program on landing them.

To me, we don’t have a guard on the team right now that will take over for when Ace and Dylan leave for the NBA.

That’s the issue.
 

S_Janowski

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What is your favorite team ImBadRU (OP)? Clearly a troll, did you forget to switch accounts/which one you’re posting on, saying “your coach” not “our coach”?

PSU lover who pretends to be a Rutgers fan.

He’s a troll - 99% of his threads are negative and then he usually never comes back into the thread to converse about the topic he starts.
 

Scangg

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RUBOB72

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Ndongo … reversing course did not help at all. So when people say , “that’s what attracts players …Pikiell’s demeanor”. In that case he was more loyal to our former assistant who left.
 
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Shelby65

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You guys are missing the point here. I understand things didn’t break well.

My issue is that Paul and Cam were done after this year regardless, and there’s no one in the pipeline to replace them.

Yes, there’s Ace and Dylan. They’re one and done, and you don’t bank the foundation of your program on landing them.

To me, we don’t have a guard on the team right now that will take over for when Ace and Dylan leave for the NBA.

That’s the issue.
It’s not automatic that they leave for the NBA. It’s a team game and if the rest of the roster is sub-par they will have a tough go of it.

Wolf a disappointment and and we don’t know what we’re getting with Sommerville either

Next year’s team still needs a few more pieces…..
 
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RU-ROCS

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roster management and recruiting woes from the past 3 years
And the death blow to add to that was the unexpected 11th-hour departure of Spencer - the best offensive player on a team desperate for offense. I think we have a couple more W‘s and a chance at the post season of Cam had stayed.
 

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It’s not automatic that they leave for the NBA. It’s a team game and if the rest of the roster is sub-par they will have a tough go of it.

Wolf a disappointment and and we don’t know what we’re getting with Sommerville either

Next year’s team still needs a few more pieces…..
Ace is essentially a lock already, and honestly might go #1. Harper seems like he’s there as well.

My question with Harper is he looks like a full grown man playing vs High School kids. Curious to see how that translates and how dealing with larger guards impacts him.

Either way, if they do come back it’s because they’re no longer viewed as lottery picks. Would they really stay an additional year because they fell to the 20ish pick in the draft?

Keep in mind, the NBA generally drafts off potential nowadays.

Somerville I’m actually very excited for. He is the sleeper to me that makes all of this work.
 
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I’m less harsh on Pike about Wolf because I see the potential and big guys are generally projects.

The guard thing is just tough for me
 

ScarletR30

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Ndongo … reversing course did not help at all. So when people say , “that’s what attracts players …Pikiell’s demeanor”. In that case he was more loyal to our former assistant who left.
This is extremely common in recruiting. A player is going to go to the school they feel most confident in.

If Ndongo spent 80% of his time conversing with Hobbs why would he still come. Hobbs is the one that builds the relationship with player, family, coaches, etc.
 

RUBOB72

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This was a perfect example of “legal theft of a recruit “ by a former assistant coach. Hey all is in the recruiting dynamic .
 

kcg88

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I’m less harsh on Pike about Wolf because I see the potential and big guys are generally projects.

The guard thing is just tough for me
Woolfolk is a perfectly fine backup big man who should be playing 8-10 minutes a game but has been playing 15 minutes a game.
 
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Shelby65

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Woolfolk is a perfectly fine backup big man who should be playing 8-10 minutes a game but has been playing 15 minutes a game.
He seems slimmer and more easily pushed around than I remember last year, but I could be wrong.
 

RedTeamUpstream94

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And why hasn’t he been banned?

@ScarletDave totally called him out on his use of "your" coach - he absolutely forgot to change accounts and mistakenly posted under the account he uses to pretend that he is an RU fan.

troll got sloppy. troll got exposed.

cant imagine having so little going on in your real life that you bother having multiple accounts for the purpose of trolling other boards. I honestly mean it when I say that I feel sorry for trolls like @ImBadRU - sad and shallow existence.
 

SirScarlet

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And Ndongo... that would have been a good team

Things all broke poorly for RU this year. It happens
This. Saying this is all due to recruiting is disingenuous

Even Izzo commented that Pike got a raw deal with his starting backcourt leaving in June.

Is this ultimately Pike's fault since he is the head coach? Of course it is. But blaming it on poor recruiting is - I think - disingenuous.
 

RUBOB72

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Ace is essentially a lock already, and honestly might go #1. Harper seems like he’s there as well.

My question with Harper is he looks like a full grown man playing vs High School kids. Curious to see how that translates and how dealing with larger guards impacts him.

Either way, if they do come back it’s because they’re no longer viewed as lottery picks. Would they really stay an additional year because they fell to the 20ish pick in the draft?

Keep in mind, the NBA generally drafts off potential nowadays.

Somerville I’m actually very excited for. He is the sleeper to me that makes all of this work.
I don’t see Somerville getting bullied even by older players or dirty players . No question they will try early on . Suggestion to Pikiell… toughen them up summer ball in the city.
And why hasn’t he been banned?
That’s a wonderful question and perhaps one day IBRU will be put on a timeout or maybe it’s just all our imaginations?
 
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RUDiddy777

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Let’s look at it both ways. Pike losing Cam and Paul after the portal closed for undergrads left him in a tough position. He was thinking those 2 with Noah and Derek makes the team a position of strength and JMike can watch and learn. After Paul and Cam are gone , he settled for an injured Austin and a suspended J. Williams . Noah has not flourished , Austin is just getting healthy and has limitations and JWill has not played.
Now should Pike have gone out immediately and gotten the best guard in the portal. Probably yes and a failure there.
But I laid out what he thought the bench would be and it is not what he thought.

Don’t forget about Baye Ndongo decommitting in April. 3 projected starters now on other rosters - though it was obvious Paul was gone.
 

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Feel like bigger stronger quicker is still no excuse for zero boxing out. This team just watches the ball when it goes up. I’d rather see them get pushed under the rim, perhaps get an over the back call … but it’s non existent. Cliff does it too. Expect in many cases he can out jump another player.
 

RUBOB72

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Feel like bigger stronger quicker is still no excuse for zero boxing out. This team just watches the ball when it goes up. I’d rather see them get pushed under the rim, perhaps get an over the back call … but it’s non existent. Cliff does it too. Expect in many cases he can out jump another player.
Well when they do box out and attack the glass we have a chance to win but too often we look lost when the shot goes up. It’s not about elevation , jumping ability . It’s Anticipating where the shot will come off , quickness , attitude … there have been a number of players who thought they could only jump off the ground 6 inches were good rebounders. If you can due all of that then you will generate respect.