No, it doesn't. Not at all. Unless you have a parasitic infection, which is why it's been so great for river blindness, a terrible endemic disease in much of Africa (Merck has been donating it for free for decades). As I've said before, I worked on ivermectin and would have been ecstatic if it worked for COVID, but it doesn't.
Whatever dude. My doctor and pharmacist disagree. So do thousands of other doctors. I think I will trust them before I trust you.
Agreed. The vax automatons are scary.Moderators - What ya think? This is a basketball forum. Is it time to shut this down and move it to the Board dominated by all the crazy conspiracy theorists? Oh - I forgot - the moderators seem to be charter members of that group.
I'm not wrong on vaccines, in particular, as I've read just about every key peer-reviewed journal article on the clinical and post-clinical effectiveness and safety of the vaccines, along with the scientific and medical opinions of most leaders in the field (yes, I have had free time during retirement). There are good reasons why >99% of doctors are vaccinated. I'll read whatever you post, but I'm 99.99% sure that it'll be the usual misinformation I've spent 2+ years debunking, but maybe you'll surprise me.
@RichardSchnyderiteModerators - What ya think? This is a basketball forum. Is it time to shut this down and move it to the Board dominated by all the crazy conspiracy theorists? Oh - I forgot - the moderators seem to be charter members of that group.
Show me one peer-reviewed RCT that shows ivermectin is effective against SARS-CoV-2. Hint: you can't. I also doubt there are "thousands" of doctors who think ivermectin works (~1% of MDs would be ~1000 and >99% of the ~1MM MDs are vaccinated).
It's a puzzlement, Numb3rs. Hey, the other day they were playing "Convoy" on the radio and I thought, "That is the same sentiment that exists today, only greatly multiplied."
I’m not a doctor. I do not review medical studies. However, I do listen to my doctor and my pharmacist. I think everyone will agree that every single thing you put into your body has side effects. Even Tylenol for goodness sakes. It blows my mind that people are so willing and eager to defend this vaccine and it’s boosters without any lengthy testing and without knowing the long term consequences. It is way beyond me. Normally vaccine research and approval take years. But to each his own…just don’t force your beliefs on me. I certainly understand why you would defend the vaccine. Additionally, everyone should have had a choice, these vaccines should have never been mandated. FWIW, I was vaccinated and I regret it everyday. Yes, I am one of the vaccine injured. But there is nothing I can do about that now, is there?
In case you haven't seen it, this is a really good read on the development (since at least the Reagan era) of conservative mistrust of sciences being solidly rooted in conservative mistrust of government, especially when those scientific recommendations involve government actions, which they feel restrict free markets and freedom (climate science and COVID science fall into this category).
Not really interested but thanks anyway. I think it is our patriotic duty to question what the government tells us, no matter what side of the aisle you are on. There are many tragic historical examples of what happened when people did not. I am tired of beating a dead horse so I am considering our convo finished. We are both entitled to our opinions and I respect yours. Have a good evening.
Originally, it was his CDC pushing the vax. And I took the vax. And as long as the people at the CDC were respected scientists, I would have no trouble believing what they were saying.
Why exactly do you regret it?
Literally made no difference who was in office. It was the quickest way out of the pandemic, lockdowns, etc.
It was more a question. But I see you have no answer.
You edited out this: "Let me ask you and the vax defenders a serious question. If Trump won in 2020 and it was his CDC pushing this vax, would you have been so quick to take it and defend it’s efficacy?" The answer is absolutely, as I was a huge proponent of the vaccines from day one - in fact, I predicted in April 2020 that we'd have emergency approval for the vaccines by the end of 2020, as the vaccines were looking very good already in April 2020 and I was confident the government would help make this happen and then we got Warp Speed in May 2020.
So,Moderators - What ya think? This is a basketball forum. Is it time to shut this down and move it to the Board dominated by all the crazy conspiracy theorists? Oh - I forgot - the moderators seem to be charter members of that group.
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Or, you know, the millions of other doctors who did in fact recommend it and take it themselves.So,
You're saying I shouldn't listen to my next door neighbor who so happens to be my medical doctor. And I shouldn't listen to my friends and family who are directors and vp's at major pharmaceutical companies who work on drug development. And I shouldn't listen to one of my best friends who runs an ICU unit at a major hospital. I should trust people like Rochelle Walensky and Anthony Fauci when it comes to the Covid vaccine. Btw, I'm vaccinated and wouldn't have done it if I knew what I know now.
If everyone would just have listened to the CDC director, Rochelle Walensky, no one would have caught Covid.
And this was another great interview from Anthony Fauci.
Fauci: Vaccinated people become ‘dead ends’ for the coronavirus
Anthony Fauci, chief medical adviser to President Biden, said during a discussion on Sunday about the Center for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) decision to drop mask recommendati…
If I were a misogynist, I'd have just stopped talking to you (assuming I believed or cared what gender you are).
I edited it because I knew you would come back with an entire dissertation once again trying to prove your point. Yawn. I was over this 2 hours ago. Have a good evening.
Shorter: my main point was my confidence in the vaccines had zero to do with politics and everything to do with the science at that time - likely contrary to what you thought my answer might be (or else you wouldn't have asked it).
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Trump fast tracked the vaccine. He probably broke many rules in doing so. I’m actually amazed how many people flip flopped on this subject since 2020. Both sides. I stayed the course and know the vaccines were beneficial. Way more than testing and infinitely more than masks. But the virus still mutated and ran its course. Glad it’s over.
That guy the biggest ***** here, keyboard warrior who would **** his pants in person
The entire debate is not so much about an individual’s mistrust in vaccines produced by modern science, it was a push back against the lies told early on and the attempts to squash opinions of people who thought perhaps differently about this covid 19 issue. It is a fact MSM had a vested interest in that . It is blatantly obvious this is still the goal.
I am a never Trumper but he deserves all the credit for the great work on the vaccines. It happened on his watch, kudos to The Donald.
Everyone needs to think like you do here. First, everyone should vote or not vote for whoever they want to. Issues like this should not be left or right. I don’t love Trump either and while you give him all of the credit I will say he did a good job on this issue and the economy. Whether you are left or right I personally think we should all agree defunding the police rhetoric was the worst idea among a long list of terrible political ideas. Abortion should not be left or right either. A lot of Catholics are Dems but the media makes it a left v right issue as do our stellar politicians. Bottom line is they all get rich while people fight over issues they created. Everyone needs to wake up and see the but many cannot.
She way overstated the case, but the CDC walked it back the next day. People make mistakes, even those in senior positions. If she had continued with misleading guidance (like Trump did for months early in the pandemic, but I don't see you posting his misleading/false statements), then you'd have a much more serious issue.
