OT: Rutgers faculty union calls strike

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Joey Bags

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Gov Murphy to the rescue??
Unfortunately this is probably correct, if this doesn't get resolved in the next day or two he's going to have to get involved and tell everyone to go f*** themselves
 

mdk02

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You know professional sports is unionized . But many here support those businesses

And how many diplomas, and the jobs they are a prerequisite to, are delayed? Don't the grads have a right to take their degree and earn a salary after completing a 4 year stretch?
 

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So sad for the students. Such a critical time of year. Tainting the seniors view on the U greatly affecting their donations etc. later on. Terrible by the profs to do this they are already way overpaid and tuition is too high as it is
It’s also a bad look for prospective students. High school seniors (including my son) are making their final decisions right now about where they want to attend next year.
 

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I had to smile and shake my head upon reading the first few paragraphs of the report. So there's a full-time faculty union, a part-timer faculty union, an administrative personnel union...is there a Dean's Union? Are the general undergraduate students unionized? Is the sentient AI in a union? Who isn't unionized over there? 🤣
 

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It’s also a bad look for prospective students. High school seniors (including my son) are making their final decisions right now about where they want to attend next year.
Apparently there are messages flying on the admissions FB page and lots of rumblings about people changing their minds

All in all , this strike is perfectly timed to cause maximum damage to the school
 
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A growing contingent of people in this country are not only not religious, but that hate and show disdain for religion. These people seem to forget that one of the founding principles of this great country was freedom of religion. But some of these same people seem to hate this great country too. They are free to leave if they don't like it.
What troubles me is that the far left argues for tolerance and inclusion but scoffs at the teaching of the Bible as oppressive and dismisses it; intolerantly.

What troubles me is that far right claims that this should be a Christian nation, yet it tramples on the poor, pollutes God gift (our planet) and support the 45th president who cheats on his wife with pornstars and playboy bunnies.
 

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Apparently there are messages flying on the admissions FB page and lots of rumblings about people changing their minds

All in all , this strike is perfectly timed to cause maximum damage to the school
A change of mind due to potential tuition increases brought about by satisfying union demands?
 

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^ The stupidity of those on this board who are supposedly educated truly knows no bounds. If what you say is true, why are there so many right-leaning folks paying union dues all throughout this country?
It was sarcasm.
 

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Does the university president have the power to declare the semester complete and issue a passing grade to students for all classes? It would take away some of the leverage as to the timing of the strike and maybe force everyone back to the table.
 

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What troubles me is that the far left argues for tolerance and inclusion but scoffs at the teaching of the Bible as oppressive and dismisses it; intolerantly.

What troubles me is that far right claims that this should be a Christian nation, yet it tramples on the poor, pollutes God gift (our planet) and support the 45th president who cheats on his wife with pornstars and playboy bunnies.
There is always common ground. Always. My post was not eloquently worded, but was posting from my phone in a sleep-induced state.

Religion should not be a political issue that divides this country. It should unite, and we should respect each other for their faith, even if that faith includes agnostics and atheists. A person's belief system is personal, and not something to be inflicted on and used to shame others.

There has been a pervasive and sickening taunting by the entertainment industry too that mocks Christians and Christianity. It was on full display at recent music awards shows. I don't follow or practice any organized religion. But I respect those that do, and I am always willing to listen to what works for others.
 

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I had to smile and shake my head upon reading the first few paragraphs of the report. So there's a full-time faculty union, a part-timer faculty union, an administrative personnel union...is there a Dean's Union? Are the general undergraduate students unionized? Is the sentient AI in a union? Who isn't unionized over there? 🤣
Sums up the liberal world.
 

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So are classes on or not? I am supposed to give a lecture at a seminar at the college of engineering Wednesday. Checking with the professor, but just wondering.

"Several hundred union members armed with strike signs marched outside the New Brunswick campus Monday morning in a historic show of unity." - So violent!!!

“Holloway, you can’t hide, we can see your greedy side,” chanted a line of protesting graduate student workers, adjuncts and full time professors, referring to Rutgers President Jonathan Holloway.

"To say that this is deeply disappointing would be an understatement, especially given that just two days ago, both sides agreed in good faith to the appointment of a mediator to help us reach agreements," Rutgers President John Holloway, in a statement posted on the Rutgers website, said of the faculty decision to strike.

Seems like a bad move by the union, IMO. Mediators help make progress.

 
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T2Kplus20

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So are classes on or not? I am supposed to give a lecture at a seminar at the college of engineering Wednesday. Checking with the professor, but just wondering.

"Several hundred union members armed with strike signs marched outside the New Brunswick campus Monday morning in a historic show of unity." - So violent!!!

“Holloway, you can’t hide, we can see your greedy side,” chanted a line of protesting graduate student workers, adjuncts and full time professors, referring to Rutgers President Jonathan Holloway.

"To say that this is deeply disappointing would be an understatement, especially given that just two days ago, both sides agreed in good faith to the appointment of a mediator to help us reach agreements," Rutgers President John Holloway, in a statement posted on the Rutgers website, said of the faculty decision to strike.

Seems like a bad move by the union, IMO. Mediators help make progress.

What engineering did you study at RU? Was it Chem like most of us on the board? :)
 

RUTGERS95

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I had to smile and shake my head upon reading the first few paragraphs of the report. So there's a full-time faculty union, a part-timer faculty union, an administrative personnel union...is there a Dean's Union? Are the general undergraduate students unionized? Is the sentient AI in a union? Who isn't unionized over there? 🤣
when I was an adjunct, I had to join the union and tried to teach for free but they refused!
 

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So are classes on or not? I am supposed to give a lecture at a seminar at the college of engineering Wednesday. Checking with the professor, but just wondering.

"Several hundred union members armed with strike signs marched outside the New Brunswick campus Monday morning in a historic show of unity." - So violent!!!

“Holloway, you can’t hide, we can see your greedy side,” chanted a line of protesting graduate student workers, adjuncts and full time professors, referring to Rutgers President Jonathan Holloway.

"To say that this is deeply disappointing would be an understatement, especially given that just two days ago, both sides agreed in good faith to the appointment of a mediator to help us reach agreements," Rutgers President John Holloway, in a statement posted on the Rutgers website, said of the faculty decision to strike.

Seems like a bad move by the union, IMO. Mediators help make progress.

My son is at his engineering class as we speak.
 

rurichdog

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So are classes on or not? I am supposed to give a lecture at a seminar at the college of engineering Wednesday. Checking with the professor, but just wondering.

"Several hundred union members armed with strike signs marched outside the New Brunswick campus Monday morning in a historic show of unity." - So violent!!!

“Holloway, you can’t hide, we can see your greedy side,” chanted a line of protesting graduate student workers, adjuncts and full time professors, referring to Rutgers President Jonathan Holloway.

"To say that this is deeply disappointing would be an understatement, especially given that just two days ago, both sides agreed in good faith to the appointment of a mediator to help us reach agreements," Rutgers President John Holloway, in a statement posted on the Rutgers website, said of the faculty decision to strike.

Seems like a bad move by the union, IMO. Mediators help make progress.

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Bojo24

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If you don't like the job or the pay/benefits then move onto something else. Unions being in government, including a state supported school, is a conflict of interest when you have the majority party in NJ that is backed by the unions
 

Ridge 22

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When I want a raise it’s free market capitalism.

When you want a raise it’s liberal socialism.
No such thing as free market with a union. These people aren't working in coal mines any longer. Unions need to be gone.
 
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^ The stupidity of those on this board who are supposedly educated truly knows no bounds. If what you say is true, why are there so many right-leaning folks paying union dues all throughout this country?
I know a bunch of cops who rail against labor unions and socialism yet enjoy their collectively bargained public pensions.
 

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So are classes on or not? I am supposed to give a lecture at a seminar at the college of engineering Wednesday. Checking with the professor, but just wondering.

"Several hundred union members armed with strike signs marched outside the New Brunswick campus Monday morning in a historic show of unity." - So violent!!!

“Holloway, you can’t hide, we can see your greedy side,” chanted a line of protesting graduate student workers, adjuncts and full time professors, referring to Rutgers President Jonathan Holloway.

"To say that this is deeply disappointing would be an understatement, especially given that just two days ago, both sides agreed in good faith to the appointment of a mediator to help us reach agreements," Rutgers President John Holloway, in a statement posted on the Rutgers website, said of the faculty decision to strike.

Seems like a bad move by the union, IMO. Mediators help make progress.

Funny, I was just at an event at the SoE on Thursday - it was my first time in Richard Weeks Hall, and as a Bloustein Alum, I was quite jealous...

Was told by a professor this morning that "it likely won't last more than 2 or 3 days" and that it "shouldn't affect" research being performed for my agency... Hopefully thats the case and cooler heads prevail.

(Just for the record - I am usually one to support Unions and associated labor actions, but am definitely "on the fence" with this one and the RU Prof Unions as a whole)
 

MADHAT1

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If you don't like the job or the pay/benefits then move onto something else. Unions being in government, including a state supported school, is a conflict of interest when you have the majority party in NJ that is backed by the unions
Would a political party have a conflict of of interest if they were backed by businesses when it came to labor related bills they were voting on???
 

Knight Shift

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Funny, I was just at an event at the SoE on Thursday - it was my first time in Richard Weeks Hall, and as a Bloustein Alum, I was quite jealous...

Was told by a professor this morning that "it likely won't last more than 2 or 3 days" and that it "shouldn't affect" research being performed for my agency... Hopefully thats the case and cooler heads prevail.

(Just for the record - I am usually one to support Unions and associated labor actions, but am definitely "on the fence" with this one and the RU Prof Unions as a whole)
On Paul Robeson's birthday too.



 

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What's the problem? The football team went on strike years ago and remains a a conference outlier and where is the outrage. Poor coaching, poor recruiting, poor facilities, poor performance, Faculty decided to join them rather than fight them.
 
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GoodOl'Rutgers

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rampant inflation is to blame. People tend to spend near what they make no matter the level of income... wanting to afford the best lifestyle they have earned. Inflation puts pressures on their budgets. So they need/want more income. So, all these ridiculous spending bills in the last few years are to blame... imo, of course.

students should go heckle and out-shout the profs. bring bullhorns.

"you got paid we need R grades!"

"you cry about pay while we get taught by your G-A!"

"don't be a jerk - get back to work!"

"get off your *** - get back to class!"
 
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RUBOB72

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This is about professor’s who for the most part don’t teach. Grad assistants ? Why do they deserve more? Maybe the lazy *** profs should do more in class instructions . That would be a big surprise. In the long term students and future students will pay more for less. Do you think Murphy cares? It will get passed down ultimately to taxpayers. Nothing against pay increases but there are certainly other avenues this group could take.
 

Chaiya1

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They have such a vague list of liberal demands, I have no clue what they are asking for.

Ranting about gentrification in New Brunswick and living wages for grad students. Wtf?
The adjuncts and TAs are getting paid peanuts. Definitely not a living wage. They don’t receive benefits and they are teaching more and more courses. They do the same amount of work for a 1/4 of the payment. Not just RU, but all universities and colleges are taking advantage of the adjuncts snd TAs.
 

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The adjuncts and TAs are getting paid peanuts. Definitely not a living wage. They don’t receive benefits and they are teaching more and more courses. They do the same amount of work for a 1/4 of the payment. Not just RU, but all universities and colleges are taking advantage of the adjuncts snd TAs.
You've come to the wrong place to talk context. This folks on this board sing hosannas to the likes of the Southwest Airlines CEO - talk about ROI.
 

IL Lusciato

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The adjuncts and TAs are getting paid peanuts. Definitely not a living wage. They don’t receive benefits and they are teaching more and more courses. They do the same amount of work for a 1/4 of the payment. Not just RU, but all universities and colleges are taking advantage of the adjuncts snd TAs.

I understand that. I also saw demands regarding gentrification around New Brunswick and other bizarre things. Heard a grad student complain on WNYC today that she can't afford her Jersey City rent (she is paying it now though?) And teaches at RU-Newark. She could, ya know, move to Newark.

Anyway, I get the core demands, but they have not been articulated very well, and it seems there has been movement in that direction from the administration....what I heard so far has been a lot of identity political stuff directed at Holloway bc he is an African American studies guy, and pro-labor, and they are very disappointed he's not delivering.

Again, how far apart are they on the dollars and cents? Seems like a whole lot of ambiguous personality conflicts beyond that.
 
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