Mag - impact moving forward. Eye opening stats

[Mr. Magoo1]

A loser mentality

Yup. Gives others a chance to step up. 3 weeks ago, many were questioning g him starting. Too much drama. Let’s go.

 

[Loyal_2RU]

Zach Edey is a unique basketball player because he's 7'4.....there is ZERO correlation to Edey and TJD.....as is none whatsoever.

If you want to make the excuse that Mag is insurmountable and RU is doomed, go for it. I don't buy it, the stats don't support that logic and the roster has multiple pieces and players that can mix and match at that position.

I will ask the same question that I asked in the other thread. Are you saying you would rather have Mag over any of the other 4 starters for the rest of the season?? If you are saying "I'm not going that far OR NO, I wouldn't say that", then we can have a logical discussion of team performance with and without Mag....

That means moving the ball, offense, passing, shooting, rebounding, defense etc.

I don't believe Mag is the only player on the roster that does what he does well. There is going to be a dropoff on defense....yes I am acknowledging there will be "some dropoff".

But I am also saying getting Simpson and Hyatt more minutes isn't exactly the worse solution in the world, for a team that needs shooting, scoring and some individual "go make a play", once in awhile.

Mag is a unique and terrific player. He is the least important of our 5 starters. I wish he was not hurt. I hate for his and for his teammates sake that he is hurt.

He makes unique contributions to the game. Now Pike has to Coach to make up for his loss in other ways.
We all will see soon and again at Illinois, how he and the team are able to adapt.
No use suffering twice, I am going to let it play out, without angst. And hope I don't have to suffer even once.
Loyal

 

[csphi]

No, an honest reality that I hope doesn't happen. But I
expect the real losers are those who will attack the team if they lose. Are you that loser??

Nice spin

Abe attacking the team is the last thing I would do

Yet….it’s still a losers mentality

 

[rubjk]

Over the top?? How?? Responding to the possibility of losing games in his absence. I'd say responding to dopes attacking is not o.ver the top .

There’s also a possibility someone takes advantage of the opportunity. There’s also a chance of chunk of the scoreboard falls down again. There’s a chance TJD gets hurt. Lots of things might happen. That’s why I watch the games and don’t worry about 5 mins of not scoring or other things in isolation.

 

[ru66]

Yup. Gives others a chance to step up. 3 weeks ago, many were questioning g him starting. Too much drama. Let’s go.

I'd say a delusional mentality if you think losing Mag will not affect the team significantly--hey, just read and listen to the team /Pikes comments about Mag -they're not losers but understand his significance for winning. And I've never said I don't hope others step up and we avoid losses but it will be really sad when and if the usual subjects attack the team if we lose --they're the losers.

 

[-RUFAN4LIFE-]

MVP in my opinion

More of the unsung hero IMO as he rarely gets the attention he deserves.

And then you have the buffoons that wanted him benched for Hyatt. But that's another story.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

I'd say a delusional mentality if you think losing Mag will not affect the team significantly--hey, just read and listen to the team /Pikes comments about Mag -they're not losers but understand his significance for winning. And I've never said I don't hope others step up and we avoid losses but it will be really sad when and if the usual subjects attack the team if we lose --they're the losers.

Of course it affects the team..such is life. Nothing you can do about it. And I never said you said you don’t hope others step up…lol. The point is nothing is changing Mag’s status. We can feel sorry for ourselves all we want but I’m sure the team is spending that energy trying to make up for the loss. This team completely outplayed MSU without Mag in the 2nd half….small sample size and I’m not suggesting we are better without him. Mag has been incredible the last 3 weeks (before that, not so much) but he’s not irreplaceable. Lack of depth will be the bigger problem moving forward. Time to focus on what we can control.

 

[yesrutgers01]

I predict at least 8 losses in Rutgers games for the rest of the regular season.

Relatedly, I predict no more than 8 losses in Rutgers games for the rest of the regular season.

First- this really sucks for Mags...

Now, my question...if Mags were playing- how many future losses did you have us down for?

 

[bac2therac]

NEXT MAN UP
NEXT MAN UP
NEXT MAN UP

 

[RUPete]

Feel so bad for Mawot and all he has endured. His loss will be felt big time on the court at both ends. Now it’s time for Hyatt / Dean / Wolf / Oskar to take the bull by the horns and contribute to the max.

Couldn’t have said it better. Really feel horrible for him. But there’s an opportunity right there for those other guys. They need to grab it.

 

[bac2therac]

Yup. Gives others a chance to step up. 3 weeks ago, many were questioning g him starting. Too much drama. Let’s go.

Agree...cant believe the defeatist talk thread after thread...oh woe is me

This board is starting to act like losers...game tonight and slitting their wrists and taking positive vibes away

 

[fluoxetine]

First- this really sucks for Mags...

Now, my question...if Mags were playing- how many future losses did you have us down for?

Well, you need to read my post more carefully

I’ll give you a hint: we could start the Boston Celtics or 5 posters from this board and my prediction would remain the same.

 

[Scangg]

Zach Edey is a unique basketball player because he's 7'4.....there is ZERO correlation to Edey and TJD.....as is none whatsoever.

If you want to make the excuse that Mag is insurmountable and RU is doomed, go for it. I don't buy it, the stats don't support that logic and the roster has multiple pieces and players that can mix and match at that position.

I will ask the same question that I asked in the other thread. Are you saying you would rather have Mag over any of the other 4 starters for the rest of the season?? If you are saying "I'm not going that far OR NO, I wouldn't say that", then we can have a logical discussion of team performance with and without Mag....

That means moving the ball, offense, passing, shooting, rebounding, defense etc.

I don't believe Mag is the only player on the roster that does what he does well. There is going to be a dropoff on defense....yes I am acknowledging there will be "some dropoff".

But I am also saying getting Simpson and Hyatt more minutes isn't exactly the worse solution in the world, for a team that needs shooting, scoring and some individual "go make a play", once in awhile.

You are insanely undervaluing TJD. Indiana would be soooo much worse without him

I never once said losing Mag is insurmountable or doomed. It's a huge loss though. Meanwhile you are saying we are going to be actually BETTER come tournament time

My take is completely reasonable. Yours is not

 

[BOCA93]

I don't look at everything as an individual stat game or evaluation. Indiana is going to get evaluated based on the entire season or body of work.

Mike Woodson has 2 5 star guards before Xavier Johnson broke his foot, sitting on the bench. Why is Indiana solely reliant or needing TJD to have a big game in order to win??

If TJD gets in foul trouble dealing with Cliff, can Indiana win. I don't know right now, if the Mag injury does to the overall defensive ratings until I see what the coaches and players do to adjust their games and roles within the team concept.

It would be disappointing for RU fans to build in reasons or excuses for anything. I have not changed my bullish view of RU basketball at all. I am expecting good defense and better offense in time, because of this injury. I believe in the long run, RU will be more dangerous and explosive come March.

Crazy stat that TJD had never fouled out of a game until this year’s game at the RAC. He rarely gets into foul trouble.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Without Mag, the defense could and will change. Pikiell went heavy zone and won the game on the defensive end

 

[hawkjt]

Hawkeye fan just wanting to express sympathies to Mr Mag on this sad news about his knee injury. He is a very good player who will be missed.
I do root for RU and Mrs Screw who is great fan but always gracious to Hawkeye fans.

I like your coach and your players and will hope you beat I U and have a strong finish. If we meet again let it be in the BIG tourney final.

 

[ru66]

Agree...cant believe the defeatist talk thread after thread...oh woe is me

This board is starting to act like losers...game tonight and slitting their wrists and taking positive vibes away

like when you comment in the game thread

 

[FinalFourOrBust_rivals142702]

Not bad for the “easiest of the five starters to replace” {SARCASM}

Well he’s not more important than cliff Paul or Caleb

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

In Big Ten games, Rutgers allows 14.3 more points per 100 possessions when Mag is off the court

Three-point shooting percentage (+9.4%)

Mid-range two-point percentage (+6.6)

Offensive rebounding percentage (+9.3%)

In B1G play, Mag ranks fourth in the Big Ten in both defensive rating and defensive box plus-minus, per Bart Torvik 

Sucks to lose him but injuries are apart of sports unfortunately. Every team has them

 

[Scangg]

like when you comment in the game thread

Bac is arguably the biggest overreacting defeatist on the board in game threads

 

[yesrutgers01]

I predict at least 8 losses in Rutgers games for the rest of the regular season.

Relatedly, I predict no more than 8 losses in Rutgers games for the rest of the regular season.

First- this really sucks for Mags...

Now, my question...if Mags were playing- how many future losses did you have us down for?

Well, you need to read my post more carefully

I’ll give you a hint: we could start the Boston Celtics or 5 posters from this board and my prediction would remain the same.

based on the response- I get it know but reading your post carefully, I assume you meant to have the 'ed' on your first predict.

 

[Scangg]

Could have used Mag tonight

 

[rucoe89]

This thread is not aging well .......

 

[Scangg]

I have not changed my bullish view of RU basketball at all. I am expecting good defense and better offense in time, because of this injury. I believe in the long run, RU will be more dangerous and explosive come March.