16-7 overall, 8-4 in the B1G and in 2nd place. 5-2 in the last 7 games, all conference wins.
We should now be back in the Top 25
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Should be 17-6 / 9-3 and two games clear of the next team...
Almost hope we aren't? We seem to play better without a number in front of our name.
My guess: 27
The voters forgot that we beat Indiana by 15 points and beat Purdue on the road....no mention of the Ohio State game on the road that was really a victory.
Just Beat Indiana and Illinois on the road this week...ends all voter doubts.
The voters forgot that we beat Indiana by 15 points and beat Purdue on the road....no mention of the Ohio State game on the road that was really a victory.
Just Beat Indiana and Illinois on the road this week...ends all voter doubts.
Top 25 rankings are nothing but a popularity contest, worry more about the ranking that is assigned for the tournament. That's the most important number because the committee is actually reviewing the whole resume unlike these coaches and other voters in the polls some of you fawn over.
This.I think Boeheim has a vote in the coaches' poll. Do you think that he's thinking about who won the game between Nevada and Air Force as some graduate assistant fills out the ballot?
We're gonna need to learn to play with a number in front of our name to become a next-level team. It's about culture and mindset, and we have to get there.
Well, good news. The "we play worse when ranked" thing is just another thing that is completely made up by the people on this board.
Completely made up.
However - I’m sure there’s no correlation re the day of the week we play either, but I’m still happy we get a reprieve for a few weeks from Sunday tips. We’ve played awful on Sundays this year (headlined by the Seton Hall game) for whatever reason.
1-3 (and we needed OT to win that OSU game).
Just keep grinding with the same lunch pail mentality regardless if we are #30, #25, or #20.
I just hope we haven’t lost Mag for the rest of the season. He is a key cog in Pike’s press and like that he’s been able to contribute on the O as well!
I just hope we haven’t lost Mag for the rest of the season. He is a key cog in Pike’s press and like that he’s been able to contribute on the O as well!
That’s the part that still stings. The gift that keeps giving.
2022-23
Week 11: ranked #23, loss at Michigan State
2021-22
Never ranked
2020-21
Week 12: ranked #25, loss at Michigan, loss vs. Maryland
Week 7: ranked #15, loss at Michigan State, loss vs. Ohio State
Week 6: ranked #14, win vs. Purdue, loss at Iowa (12/29/20 was our last win as a ranked team)
Week 5: ranked #11, loss at Ohio State
Week 4: ranked #19, win at Maryland, win vs. Illinois (last week we did not have a loss as a ranked team)
Week 3: ranked #21, win vs. Syracuse
Week 2: ranked #24, no games
2019-20
Week 13: ranked #25, win vs. Purdue, loss
Michigan
Week 12: ranked #24, loss at Iowa, win vs. Nebraska
Have to go back to 1978 to find us in the rankings again.
Overall record when ranked over the past 4 seasons is (6-9), and (5-9) in conference games. Over that same span, our conference record while *unranked* has been (36-22).
Week 11: ranked #23, loss at Michigan State
2021-22
Never ranked
2020-21
Week 12: ranked #25, loss at Michigan, loss vs. Maryland
Week 7: ranked #15, loss at Michigan State, loss vs. Ohio State
Week 6: ranked #14, win vs. Purdue, loss at Iowa (12/29/20 was our last win as a ranked team)
Week 5: ranked #11, loss at Ohio State
Week 4: ranked #19, win at Maryland, win vs. Illinois (last week we did not have a loss as a ranked team)
Week 3: ranked #21, win vs. Syracuse
Week 2: ranked #24, no games
2019-20
Week 13: ranked #25, win vs. Purdue, loss
MichiganWeek 12: ranked #24, loss at Iowa, win vs. Nebraska
Have to go back to 1978 to find us in the rankings again.
Overall record when ranked over the past 4 seasons is (6-9), and (5-9) in conference games. Over that same span, our conference record while *unranked* has been (36-22).
This list for some reason omits the beginning of 2020-21 (we were ranked preseason up through week 7).2022-23
Week 11: ranked #23, loss at Michigan State
2021-22
Never ranked
2020-21
Week 12: ranked #25, loss at Michigan, loss vs. Maryland
Week 7: ranked #15, loss at Michigan State, loss vs. Ohio State
Week 6: ranked #14, win vs. Purdue, loss at Iowa (12/29/20 was our last win as a ranked team)
Week 5: ranked #11, loss at Ohio State
Week 4: ranked #19, win at Maryland, win vs. Illinois (last week we did not have a loss as a ranked team)
Week 3: ranked #21, win vs. Syracuse
Week 2: ranked #24, no games
2019-20
Week 13: ranked #25, win vs. Purdue, loss
Week 12: ranked #24, loss at Iowa, win vs. Nebraska
Have to go back to 1978 to find us in the rankings again.
Overall record when ranked over the past 4 seasons is (6-9), and (5-9) in conference games. Over that same span, our conference record while *unranked* has been (36-22).
| Game | Bart Line | Result | Bart Win % | Result (W/L) | Record vs "Spread" |
| at Michigan St. | 0.4 | -13 | 52% | 0 | 0-1 |
| at Michigan | -8.8 | -7 | 18% | 0 | 1-1 |
| Maryland | 4.1 | -9 | 68% | 0 | 1-2 |
| at Michigan St. | 1.8 | -23 | 57% | 0 | 1-3 |
| Ohio St. | 2.7 | -11 | 61% | 0 | 1-4 |
| Purdue | 4.1 | 5 | 67% | 1 | 2-4 |
| Iowa | 0.9 | -2 | 53% | 0 | 2-5 |
| at Ohio St. | -2.4 | -12 | 40% | 0 | 2-6 |
| at Maryland | -0.4 | 14 | 48% | 1 | 3-6 |
| Illinois | -0.1 | 3 | 50% | 1 | 4-6 |
| Syracuse | 2 | 10 | 58% | 1 | 5-6 |
| Hofstra | 16.3 | 14 | 93% | 1 | 5-7 |
| Fairleigh Dickinson | 20.1 | 21 | 96% | 1 | 6-7 |
| Sacred Heart | 26.4 | 23 | 99% | 1 | 6-8 |
| Purdue | 3.3 | 7 | 66% | 1 | 7-8 |
| Michigan | 2.5 | -6 | 61% | 0 | 7-9 |
| at Iowa | -3 | -5 | 38% | 0 | 7-10 |
| Nebraska | 15.5 | 3 | 93% | 1 | 7-11 |
| Total | 85.4 | 12 | 11.18 | 9 | 0 |
I will grant you some underperformance here. It seems unlikely to be causal IMO, and even if it was, we are a different team with a lot of different players from 2019-2021 so it's not particularly relevant.
I swear I saw a CBS ranking this morning that had RU ranked # 10.
I went back later and I couldn't find the damn story.
But I know what I saw.
Frankly, it makes me less optimistic about the Indiana game.
I went back later and I couldn't find the damn story.
But I know what I saw.
Frankly, it makes me less optimistic about the Indiana game.
Are we going to have to hear fans saying they hope we aren't ranked for the coming years? Because it's annoying after the 20th time
We lost one game at Michigan state and now we don’t know how to play as a ranked team? Do people think we would have won that game if we weren’t ranked?
This list for some reason omits the beginning of 2020-21 (we were ranked preseason up through week 7).
Game Bart Line Result Bart Win % Result (W/L) Record vs "Spread" at Michigan St. 0.4 -13 52% 0 0-1 at Michigan -8.8 -7 18% 0 1-1 Maryland 4.1 -9 68% 0 1-2 at Michigan St. 1.8 -23 57% 0 1-3 Ohio St. 2.7 -11 61% 0 1-4 Purdue 4.1 5 67% 1 2-4 Iowa 0.9 -2 53% 0 2-5 at Ohio St. -2.4 -12 40% 0 2-6 at Maryland -0.4 14 48% 1 3-6 Illinois -0.1 3 50% 1 4-6 Syracuse 2 10 58% 1 5-6 Hofstra 16.3 14 93% 1 5-7 Fairleigh Dickinson 20.1 21 96% 1 6-7 Sacred Heart 26.4 23 99% 1 6-8 Purdue 3.3 7 66% 1 7-8 Michigan 2.5 -6 61% 0 7-9 at Iowa -3 -5 38% 0 7-10 Nebraska 15.5 3 93% 1 7-11 Total 85.4 12 11.18 9 0
I will grant you some underperformance here. It seems unlikely to be causal IMO, and even if it was, we are a different team with a lot of different players from 2019-2021 so it's not particularly relevant.
Any impact is entirely psychological. Whether opposing teams/fans get more "up" for a game against a ranked opponent, or our own team comes in resting on its laurels in some way because they have some national recognition.
First poll in 2020-21 came out on 11/30. I didn't count preseason poll rankings (we were 24th) because they weren't actually based on any games, though maybe I should have. We were 3-0 when the first regular season poll came out in 2020-21 (Sacred Heart, FDU, Hofstra).
100% better for team if we aren't ranked this week. Meaningless anyway, and we seem to play tight with ranking attached.
I agree that's it's justified, but would rather not have it.
Rutgers isn't getting ranked #10 tomorrow dude. C'mon now. If they are ranked, it would like #23-25 or so. Meaningless, and then they play tight to try to keep it.
Agree. Whether or not the psychological effect is real, we have to break through at some point. No reason to put it off.
Actually 18-5. We would not have lost to Seton Hall.The OSU loss was such a shock our kids slept-walked through the SHU game. But bottom line, we’re not 18-5 or 17-6. We’re 16-7 and firmly in the double bye discussion in the B1G tournament. Get me into the NCAA tourney as a 5 or 6 seed and I’m thrilled regardless of being in the top 25.
That's what I thought at first. So I double checked and then triple checked that I was actually seeing RU ranked that high. I gotta go look again to see if I can find that poll.
And no....I don't think RU belongs at #10 right now. Maybe next week after we beat Indiana and Illinois on the road back-to-back.
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