Conf Tourney - NET classification (Local teams)

[PSAL_Hoops]

The million dollar question we should be asking is how will conf tournament games (not against each other) count for Purdue and Indiana in the NET?

Indianapolis is 55 miles from Indiana’s campus. 65 miles from Purdue. What about UNC, NC State and Duke? Are their conference tourney games against everyone else going to count as home games? These are the questions we should be asking.

And yes - this deserves its own thread. There’s nothing inherently different about a conference tourney for NET purposes. If anything the do or die implications make the venue even more important.

 

[rubjk]

Well conf tourney is in Chicago so question would be regarding Northwestern.

 

[mjjoyce51]

The NCAA guidelines are very clear that conference tournaments are considered neutral no matter how close a school is to a venue.

That’s being said, it’s also pretty clear that a game organized by a conference, and where neither team has it in the season ticket package, is also neutral.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

The NCAA guidelines are very clear that conference tournaments are considered neutral no matter how close a school is to a venue.

That’s being said, it’s also pretty clear that a game organized by a conference, and where neither team has it in the season ticket package, is also neutral.

“Clear” prior guidelines have to go in the garbage in this situation. The change in treatment of today’s game is a past precedent reversal. When we played Michigan at the Garden, that game did not count as a home game for us. It never has before and whether an MSG game replaced a home or road game on the conference schedule isn’t relevant to the NCAAs treatment.

There is no rational reason for our game today to count as a home game while teams that reside locally to their venue for their conference tourney this year rack up neutral games in the formula. Everything about this game was handled identically. There is no distinction that makes those games more neutral.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Well conf tourney is in Chicago so question would be regarding Northwestern.

Thanks - point still stands. I edited the title. It wasn’t meant to single out any particular team. In general, the question I’m asking is why those games are more neutral than the game we’re playing today. Still part of the conference schedule.

 

[mjjoyce51]

“Clear” prior guidelines have to go in the garbage in this situation. The change in treatment of today’s game is a past precedent reversal. When we played Michigan at the Garden, that game did not count as a home game for us. It never has before and whether an MSG game replaced a home or road game on the conference schedule isn’t relevant to the NCAAs treatment.

There is no rational reason for our game today to count as a home game while teams that reside locally to their venue for their conference tourney this year rack up neutral games in the formula. Everything about this game was handled identically. There is no distinction that makes those games more neutral.

I agree I don’t know how they came to the conclusion that this is a home game. As you said, this should be treated exactly the same as the Michigan game since there’s no mention of a team being listed as home or away being considered.

I have to imagine that an appeal gets this changed to neutral at some point during the season. It probably won’t have a sizable impact on their resume either way but it’s just simply the wrong decision.

 

[cicero grimes]

Well conf tourney is in Chicago so question would be regarding Northwestern.

Does that count if nw has no fans. It looked like um fans had them outnumbered when they played last week.

 

[High Quality H2O]

Im more pissed off about the B1G not going to mat for us on this one than the NET formula itself.

 

[RUsundevil]

Doesn't whether the school controls the gate play a factor?

 

[nukem]

Yes this is the first question on my mind today!! Lol what a joke some of you guys about this whole thing.

I'm hopping on the train soon and don't give a rat's *** about this nonsense.

 

[goru7]

Im more pissed off about the B1G not going to mat for us on this one than the NET formula itself.

Not as pissed as the failure of the Big 10 to replay the last 0.4 seconds against Ohio State before we played them again so we actually get the win like justice dictates. That hurts more. 8-3 and 16-6 now plus 3-3 road record would be putting us in great shape for the final 9

 

[motorb54]

Yes this is the first question on my mind today!! Lol what a joke some of you guys about this whole thing.

I'm hopping on the train soon and don't give a rat's *** about this nonsense.

Keep bending over.

 

[fluoxetine]

Yes this is the first question on my mind today!! Lol what a joke some of you guys about this whole thing.

I'm hopping on the train soon and don't give a rat's *** about this nonsense.

Then why post in the thread? You're the joke.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Not as pissed as the failure of the Big 10 to replay the last 0.4 seconds against Ohio State before we played them again so we actually get the win like justice dictates. That hurts more. 8-3 and 16-6 now plus 3-3 road record would be putting us in great shape for the final 9

It does hurt more but in that case, there’s nothing they can do. The game is over. They can’t change the results. Here they should 100% be questioning the inconsistent treatment.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Does that count if nw has no fans. It looked like um fans had them outnumbered when they played last week.

Forget that. Let’s run with Greensboro. It doesn’t really matter which team. It’s like the NCAA is randomly singling us and PSU out here. Are there teams in any other conference getting the shaft like this?

 

[mjjoyce51]

Forget that. Let’s run with Greensboro. It doesn’t really matter which team. It’s like the NCAA is randomly singling us and PSU out here. Are there teams in any other conference getting the shaft like this?

I think that game was organized by PSU and was a part of the season ticket package. If it was then it makes sense why it was considered a home game.

 

[fluoxetine]

Forget that. Let’s run with Greensboro. It doesn’t really matter which team. It’s like the NCAA is randomly singling us and PSU out here. Are there teams in any other conference getting the shaft like this?

I mean PSU (I think, correct me if I’m wrong) just moved a home game to Philly completely of their own volition and still controlled everything about that game. That honestly should count as a home game imo. If we did the same at MSG I would agree with calling it a home game. But a conference event like this is more akin to a conference tournament than it is to that game.

 

[Luvscarletknights]

Not as pissed as the failure of the Big 10 to replay the last 0.4 seconds against Ohio State before we played them again so we actually get the win like justice dictates. That hurts more. 8-3 and 16-6 now plus 3-3 road record would be putting us in great shape for the final 9

Let it go. Enjoy the ride as the ultimate under dogs.

It makes us tougher. Perhaps things are different if we got that win.

 

[Erial_Lion_rivals140457]

I think that game was organized by PSU and was a part of the season ticket package. If it was then it makes sense why it was considered a home game.

It wasn’t part of the season ticket package (wouldn’t make sense to force people into a game 200 miles away), but it was an obvious situation where it should have been (and was) counted as a home game.

 

[fluoxetine]

Let it go. Enjoy the ride as the ultimate under dogs.

It makes us tougher. Perhaps things are different if we got that win.

Not sure the ultimate underdogs can be favored by 4.5 points lol

 

[Scangg]

What is the distance cutoff? What's to stop them from saying the Temple game wasn't also a home game?

 

[koleszar]

Yes this is the first question on my mind today!! Lol what a joke some of you guys about this whole thing.

I'm hopping on the train soon and don't give a rat's *** about this nonsense.

You'd like to see your Conference front office stand up for you, instead of rolling over and playing dead. I doubt the B1G office would say, "Gee wiz, oh well, nothing we can do about it" if this fvcked over Izzo like it is Rutgers.

 

[koleszar]

Doesn't whether the school controls the gate play a factor?

That was the original determination. Now it's changed for some unknown reason. Rutgers does not control the gate and B1G offices cover whatever deficit Rutgers incurs from not having a (true)home sold out game. I guess we now have to make that distinction of a "(true)" home game by these new NCAA guidelines. I'm sure they'll change them back after this game.

 

[Antnee79]

Well, the Garden has “RUTGERS” painted behind each basket and a huge “R” at center court, and not “Big Ten Super Saturday” so of course it’s a home game!

 

[derleider]

What a bunch of whiners. Multiple threads on this topic.

 

[bac2therac]

What a bunch of whiners. Multiple threads on this topic.

Sorry we were ****** on this

 

[Scangg]

Well, the Garden has “RUTGERS” painted behind each basket and a huge “R” at center court, and not “Big Ten Super Saturday” so of course it’s a home game!

That, I like

 

[Knight Owl]

That, I like

MSG auditioning for barnstorming tour when RAC is out of commission.

 

[Knight Owl]

Well, the Garden has “RUTGERS” painted behind each basket and a huge “R” at center court, and not “Big Ten Super Saturday” so of course it’s a home game!

Fake news!