Now I dislike that MSG game even more

[365Poster24Seven]

ask them if they'd rather play at the RAC.

The players would like 10 games a year at MSG. It’s the greatest basketball arena in America for basketball players. As for me game dinner Broadway show hotel great day in the city.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Msg is so over rated, especially when it’s half empty

But RU fans can make it loud if they want

 

[jerseybird]

ask them if they'd rather play at the RAC.

Ask any CYO, middle school, high school or junior college player in North or Central Jersey if they want to play in MSG.

 

[fluoxetine]

The players would like 10 games a year at MSG.

Doubt that. Well, maybe if they were all the road games. But not replacing 10 RAC games.

 

[koleszar]

The players want to play at MSG, the coaches want to play at MSG, the administration wants us to play at MSG. All the complainers should just stay at home.

I’m glad you’re not in the Rutgers marketing department.

 

[S_Janowski]

who cares if we are NYCs team, you know what we arent, we are NJs team

I don’t care (and know we’re not).

But it’s a shame we can’t sell out MSG for a game like this considering the amount of students and alumni within a train ride (or walk) away.

I’m tired of the whining about this game.

 

[e5fdny]

I don’t care (and know we’re not).

But it’s a shame we can’t sell out MSG for a game like this considering the amount of students and alumni within a train ride (or walk) away.

I’m tired of the whining about this game.

I think it would have helped in that dept if it was a night game instead.

 

[365Poster24Seven]

I think it’s financial more than anything else. The poor showing on most things that have to do with raising money makes me believe that it’s a money issue. Tickets travel into NYC food entertainment after so most simply do not want to spend it. You can have a great day in the city doing multiple fun things and eating in an awesome restaurant. Most prefer posting all day and arguing on these boards. This should be a quick pit stop not an all day thing. You get one life social media is not life GN.

 

[Zak57]

I don’t care (and know we’re not).

But it’s a shame we can’t sell out MSG for a game like this considering the amount of students and alumni within a train ride (or walk) away.

I’m tired of the whining about this game.

How do we know it won't be a sell out? MSG keeps opening sections as they sell.

 

[S_Janowski]

How do we know it won't be a sell out? MSG keeps opening sections as they sell.

That would be amazing and then we would have a massive home court advantage and all these whiners would have nothing to stand on.

 

[Rufaninga]

this has nothing to with the stupid man up comments -- it has all to do having an advantage ---MAN do you geniuses realize we can be 0 and 3

If we want to get into NCAA and onto sweet 16 we need to learn how to win in big arenas & on the road. Get the guys ready for the tourneys.

 

[ru66]

If we want to get into NCAA and onto sweet 16 we need to learn how to win in big arenas & on the road. Get the guys ready for the tourneys.

you're acting like we are already in ncaas and have a great seed--we are nowhere right now

 

[rubjk]

at least 20 for me, and it still sucks. MSG sucks. Never has a venue been more overrated. At least its reasonably close to NJ. Thats all it has going for it.

How many people complaining will be on their couch vs at the garden screaming their head off? Just curious.

 

[ru66]

How many people complaining will be on their couch vs at the garden screaming their head off? Just curious.

many of us have attended more RU games than you might ever get to

 

[rubjk]

many of us have attended more RU games than you might ever get to

You have no idea how old I am nor how many games I’ve been to. I was just hoping all of you are going and putting in as much energy into cheering at the garden as you do complaining. Especially when complaining does absolutely nothing except raise your blood pressure.

 

[PatrickRU92]

You have no idea how old I am nor how many games I’ve been to. I was just hoping all of you are going and putting in as much energy into cheering at the garden as you do complaining. Especially when complaining does absolutely nothing except raise your blood pressure.

I am going.

 

[RU-ROCS]

If Rutgers can't win on a neutral court within a short distance of the campus, they should just sit out the NCAA tournament. Why spend money sending the team to some arena where they will only be disadvantaged? Winners find a way to win.

That’s not the point. We gave up a RAC home game where we have a much better chance to get a win, especially since MSU totally wilted there the last two times. I’m all for playing a non-conference game against a P5 team at MSG or anywhere else. But giving up a home game at the toughest arena in the Confefence when every single conference game is critical is a big mistake IMHO!

 

[G- RUnit]

The players want to play at MSG, the coaches want to play at MSG, the administration wants us to play at MSG. All the complainers should just stay at home.

No they don’t. That’s why they are looking for a non conference game in December so we don’t lose crucial home court advantage

 

[wheezer]

We get waxed every time we play in the garden outside the 2 2018 tourney wins.

This is an L barring a miracle. It's not a crowd thing, it's more of a nerves thing I think. Tighter rims as well.

The garden can make both teams nervous and the rims are the same for both teams
No excuses

 

[wheezer]

No they don’t. That’s why they are looking for a non conference game in December so we don’t lose crucial home court advantage

72 said the December out of conference game would not affect scheduling the later on big ten game

We could wind up with two garden games in the same season.
So much for not wanting to play there

 

[jerseybird]

That’s not the point. We gave up a RAC home game where we have a much better chance to get a win, especially since MSU totally wilted there the last two times. I’m all for playing a non-conference game against a P5 team at MSG or anywhere else. But giving up a home game at the toughest arena in the Confefence when every single conference game is critical is a big mistake IMHO!

If playing in the RAC is so advantageous, then why did Rutgers not get to the NCAA tournament for thirty years? Surely the magic of playing there would elevate us past Podunk University and Directional State College who occasionally got bids. The wins come from the players, not the facilities.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Big time recruiting targets want to play in these types of venues. We may or may not have seen Gavin Griffiths in HS within the last week, playing a HS at Boston Garden. These are legitimate "events", that are not going to do anything but help the experience of the players, coaches and program.

Ask anyone who follows CBB outside of this board and if media members have made the trip from Philly, Hartford or NYC to Piscataway and the answer is "unlikely ".

You will get more media and coverage by playing in MSG vs Michigan State, than playing in MSG in the middle of December.

 

[Rufaninga]

you're acting like we are already in ncaas and have a great seed--we are nowhere right now

I think we have 6+ more wins and will get an invite. I would like to get there and get a couple of wins this time around.

I am on no way saying more, but 2 wins in NCAA is not shooting for the moon. Also winning in big arenas on the road helps in B1G tourney as well.

Is the win as easy on the road as home ? No, but learning to win that way may have more long term benefits. It's a chance to learn to win games like this when it's not do or die.

 

[Randal7]

We will still have an enormous crowd advantage. It won’t even be close. Just go out and WIN. Period.

Exactly. Do we plan on winning at neutral site venues?! Then it starts at MSG

 

[wheezer]

If playing in the RAC is so advantageous, then why did Rutgers not get to the NCAA tournament for thirty years? Surely the magic of playing there would elevate us past Podunk University and Directional State College who occasionally got bids. The wins come from the players, not the facilities.

When you get a bad recruiting and bad game coach you start to lose
When you start to lose, less fans and less students attend
With less attendance, the RAC has no advantage over any arena

I have sat at several games with visiting fans behind me during the Jordan, Hill and Littlepage eras that would remark that the arena was not the special gym that they heard about

And they were right. But put those same visiting fans at a home league game now, it would be a different story

 

[RU-ROCS]

If playing in the RAC is so advantageous, then why did Rutgers not get to the NCAA tournament for thirty years? Surely the magic of playing there would elevate us past Podunk University and Directional State College who occasionally got bids. The wins come from the players, not the facilities.

Of course it's the players and coaches. But the stats don't lie. Especially in the last 3 years of the Pike era, those players and coaches win a MUCH higher percentage of games at the RAC than away from the RAC. That is not even subject to debate. So your point mises the mark.

 

[HPNJRUfan]

Of course it's the players and coaches. But the stats don't lie. Especially in the last 3 years of the Pike era, those players and coaches win a MUCH higher percentage of games at the RAC than away from the RAC. That is not even subject to debate. So your point mises the mark.

The same could be said about most home arenas across the country. Penn State is 11-1 at home this year - the Bryce Jordon Center must be a terrific advantage

 

[RU-ROCS]

The same could be said about most home arenas across the country. Penn State is 11-1 at home this year - the Bryce Jordon Center must be a terrific advantage

Yup. And that's why you don't give up conference home games! PSU gave up a home game and got routed by Purdue in Philly, BTW.

 

[RU848789]

Complain complain complain. Anybody complaining about the msg game is likely doing it for the 10th (or more) time.
Nauseating.

few people whine as well as RU fans - and some are just plain stupid, as they don't even realize that half our MSG games will be "away" games (huge advantage for us at MSG vs. being really away) and half our MSG games will be "home" games (small to modest disadvantage vs. being really home), so overall it's a win, fan-wise and a huge win, exposure-wise.

 

[bethlehemfan]

The same could be said about most home arenas across the country. Penn State is 11-1 at home this year - the Bryce Jordon Center must be a terrific advantage

The environment there looks pretty good this year. It used to be squeaky sneakers and an occasional obnoxious fan ranting but it seems to be changing.

 

[G- RUnit]

few people whine as well as RU fans - and some are just plain stupid, as they don't even realize that half our MSG games will be "away" games (huge advantage for us at MSG vs. being really away) and half our MSG games will be "home" games (small to modest disadvantage vs. being really home), so overall it's a win, fan-wise and a huge win, exposure-wise.

Yeah a couple years from now when Minnesota gives up that home game it will all be worth it. It’s not like we lost an overtime game to Wisconsin or a tight game to Michigan…. Oh wait we did.

Nobody is saying don’t play games in the Garden, which is just another generic arena now anyway, play a non conference game in December. Don’t give away our home court advantage.

 

[ru66]

You have no idea how old I am nor how many games I’ve been to. I was just hoping all of you are going and putting in as much energy into cheering at the garden as you do complaining. Especially when complaining does absolutely nothing except raise your blood pressure.

I know how old I am and I bet I've got you beat.lol

 

[ru66]

I think we have 6+ more wins and will get an invite. I would like to get there and get a couple of wins this time around.

I am on no way saying more, but 2 wins in NCAA is not shooting for the moon. Also winning in big arenas on the road helps in B1G tourney as well.

Is the win as easy on the road as home ? No, but learning to win that way may have more long term benefits. It's a chance to learn to win games like this when it's not do or die.

Case in point even you say we need another 6+ wins-- where are they coming from? Any game away from the rac makes it more difficult.

 

[e5fdny]

Yeah a couple years from now when Minnesota gives up that home game it will all be worth it. It’s not like we lost an overtime game to Wisconsin or a tight game to Michigan…. Oh wait we did.

Nobody is saying don’t play games in the Garden, which is just another generic arena now anyway, play a non conference game in December. Don’t give away our home court advantage.

This.

That’s the discussion. It’s that simple.

 

[GORU2014]

you're acting like we are already in ncaas and have a great seed--we are nowhere right now

His post starts with “If we want to get into NCAA”

 

[jerseybird]

When you get a bad recruiting and bad game coach you start to lose
When you start to lose, less fans and less students attend
With less attendance, the RAC has no advantage over any arena

I have sat at several games with visiting fans behind me during the Jordan, Hill and Littlepage eras that would remark that the arena was not the special gym that they heard about

And they were right. But put those same visiting fans at a home league game now, it would be a different story

The teams of Jordan, Hill and Littlepage would not have won any more games if they played in a packed 20,000 seat arena. The Pike-coached teams are in a different universe.

 

[jerseybird]

Of course it's the players and coaches. But the stats don't lie. Especially in the last 3 years of the Pike era, those players and coaches win a MUCH higher percentage of games at the RAC than away from the RAC. That is not even subject to debate. So your point mises the mark.

The Pike-coached teams play in the B10 and away games are the toughest RU has ever played night after night. Still, his team has had some impressive victories in hostile arenas. They are more talented and better coached than previous teams. To think these guys can't compete & win in B10 games in a neutral venue is ridiculous.

 

[RU-ROCS]

The Pike-coached teams play in the B10 and away games are the toughest RU has ever played night after night. Still, his team has had some impressive victories in hostile arenas. They are more talented and better coached than previous teams. To think these guys can't compete & win in B10 games in a neutral venue is ridiculous.

Again, you are missing the point. I agree with you 100% about the competitiveness of Pike and this team. No one is saying this team can’t compete and win games at a neutral site. Of course they can. But they can win games more easily at the RAC, so it is not worth giving up a home game in conference, especially when virtually no one else does in the Big 10 and every win is critical in such a competitive league. What about that can’t you understand?

 

[jerseybird]

Again, you are missing the point. I agree with you 100% about the competitiveness of Pike and this team. No one is saying this team can’t compete and win games at a neutral site. Of course they can. But they can win games more easily at the RAC, so it is not worth giving up a home game in conference, especially when virtually no one else does in the Big 10 and every win is critical in such a competitive league. What about that can’t you understand?

The competitive edge is bringing your "A" game every game. I don't care where the site is located.

 

[Tango Two]

agree, we gave up an enormous rocking rac environment which would be our 2nd straight home game and it turns out we really really need that game as a win to keep our position in the top 4.

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