Announcers Creating Controversy During OSU Game

[RUfromSoCal?]

I find complaining about the ref's to be pretty boring.

Complaining about TV announcers even more so.

but, complaining about complaining is the worst.

 

[RU05]

but, complaining about complaining is the worst.

I hear that…..except there is so much bitching about the refs, btn, our own team, commercials during the game etc that every once in a while i feel it is worth a post.

 

[RU05]

Life of the party eh?

Is bitching about the refs a party thing?

 

[LBusDoor90_rivals]

Anyone catch where the announcers were trying to back to the first half on a play where OSU was called for a shotclock violation but it should have been a foul on Cam? Seemed like they were trying to make a big deal about th call but it fell flat. Listen BIG network, nothing can replace that terrible call in the first game.

It’s a beautiful perk of today’s technology to live in southern NJ but be able to listen to our guys on WCBS 880 on my Audacy app and then pause the BTN broadcast a couple times until they get synced up with the action.
Didn’t have to hear a single word spoken by the Buckeye Television Network lackeys.

 

[NealPageNJ]

I was at the game and the call really confused me. The ball clearly hit the rim. During the review I was speaking with someone behind me. He said the ball hitting the rim wouldn’t matter in this scenario because it wasn’t from a shot. Meaning, the refs did not rule it a tip back, but instead an uncontrolled ball from the rebound scuffle that incidentally hit the rim. Not sure if he was correct but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about. The ref was speaking with a few OSU players and that seemed to be what he was telling them in my best lip reading.

 

[RedTeamUpstream94]

I find complaining about the ref's to be pretty boring.

Complaining about TV announcers even more so.

So you purposely read and then comment on a thread which is a complaint (rather than ignoring it)

Makes sense

 

[Scangg]

I was at the game and the call really confused me. The ball clearly hit the rim. During the review I was speaking with someone behind me. He said the ball hitting the rim wouldn’t matter in this scenario because it wasn’t from a shot. Meaning, the refs did not rule it a tip back, but instead an uncontrolled ball from the rebound scuffle that incidentally hit the rim. Not sure if he was correct but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about. The ref was speaking with a few OSU players and that seemed to be what he was telling them in my best lip reading.

That's an interesting rule nuance

 

[RUsojo]

Felt like we got the whistle today making up for the disaster at OSU.

Without a doubt.

See, the whistle makes a difference

 

[new jersey1_rivals661559]

I was at the game and the call really confused me. The ball clearly hit the rim. During the review I was speaking with someone behind me. He said the ball hitting the rim wouldn’t matter in this scenario because it wasn’t from a shot. Meaning, the refs did not rule it a tip back, but instead an uncontrolled ball from the rebound scuffle that incidentally hit the rim. Not sure if he was correct but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about. The ref was speaking with a few OSU players and that seemed to be what he was telling them in my best lip reading.

Makes sense… that would explain their ultimate decision that it was a shot clock violation which everyone was puzzled by. Thanks for sharing.

 

[RU05]

So you purposely read and then comment on a thread which is a complaint (rather than ignoring it)

Makes sense

If the bitching wasn’t in every thread you’d have a better point.

 

[pmvon]

Makes sense… that would explain their ultimate decision that it was a shot clock violation which everyone was puzzled by. Thanks for sharing.

Given this information and other calls/no calls highlighted, I declare we had a whistle disadvantage again and still won.

 

[RedTeamUpstream94]

If the bitching wasn’t in every thread you’d have a better point.

By the title of the thread - it had to be pretty obvious that the sole purpose of the thread was to ***** about something

If it was another thread that happened to devolve into complaining then you’d have a better point

 

[RUfromSoCal?]

I think we can all agree.....

It was the BTN "F-Level" PRoduction team they sent to this game........

 

[hiwater]

The missed call in the last meeting, an objectively unarguable violation with basically no time on the clock, led to an unrecoverable situation for RU. A very different thing, IMO.

As you stated, "with basically no time on the clock, led to an unrecoverable situation for RU" is grounds for reversing the game after the fact. Bad calls happen in every game, but the games are not reversable because the each team has time to recover/overcome the bad call later. Even if there was 2 or 3 seconds left RU would have had a chance. This no call and the acknowledged delay in the shot clock starting both make it look like the fix was in and that the league should have stepped in on this

 

[mildone_rivals]

As you stated, "with basically no time on the clock, led to an unrecoverable situation for RU" is grounds for reversing the game after the fact. Bad calls happen in every game, but the games are not reversable because the each team has time to recover/overcome the bad call later. Even if there was 2 or 3 seconds left RU would have had a chance. This no call and the acknowledged delay in the shot clock starting both make it look like the fix was in and that the league should have stepped in on this

Has the NCAA ever reversed a game due to an officiating failure? I know wins are vacated, but only in instances of cheating by a school. At least as far as I’m aware.

 

[NickKnight 1]

More important than getting the calls is hitting our FTs.

Absolutely

 

[wheezer]

after rewatching this morning, my take:

the shot by Ohio #23 definitely hit the rim, shot clock should have been reset....and it was a shot, not an accidental ball hitting the rim.

therefore, the foul on Cam should have been enforced..

but, the whole thing is overblown in the sense that it just becomes, a non shooting foul on Cam, and possession OSU

this happens very early in the second half, no points either way...

not much different that trying to figure a charge/block in the middle of a game in a non foul shooting situation

 

[RUKiid]

The thread wasn’t meant to ***** or complain just to point out a discussion topic. Actually learned something from one of the posters explaining the rule and call.

 

[hiwater]

Has the NCAA ever reversed a game due to an officiating failure? I know wins are vacated, but only in instances of cheating by a school. At least as far as I’m aware.

Good question. I googled it after you asked. I could not find any instance of the NCAA reversing a game. I found 1 instance of a HS game that was reverse because the refs went way too far with allowing a 17 point play to erase a deficit. That screams for a reversal to make it right. The refs assessed 8 technicals against a team for a tussle between 2 players that was started by the team that was behind. A player made 17 of 18 foul shots to give his team a 6 point win.

 

[BIGRUBIGDBIGredmachine]

I thought one of their guys came back in from out of bounds to touch the ball before Key got it, and I wasn't sure that player reestablished himself in bounds before doing that. But I could be wrong.

This---refs realized it should have been RU's ball so stayed with the call. Also the replay showed Cam had all-ball on the steal , no foul. End result was correct: RU ball, no foul.

 

[rob kight]

Also the NCAA rule says. “The shot clock resets if an attempted field goal hits the rim”. Not reset if the rim is hit in a battle for the rebound.

 

[Kbee3]

but, complaining about complaining is the worst.

So, you're complaining about someone complaining about someone complalning ?

 

[Letitrip]

Going back to the OP - it was really weird to replay that call and discuss it again. If you watch it carefully the female announcer did not realize she was on a live mic and can be heard saying to the production team "Ok - lets go with it now". That call was questionable but did not change the outcome - It was certainly not worthy of replaying later in the game. Only one conclusion - B1G had an agenda.

 

[RUJMM78]

Felt like we got the whistle today making up for the disaster at OSU.

Ref calls changed after Pikiell was called for a technical foul.On next possession Spencer shot a 3 pointer which missed but the defender was called for a foul which didn't happen.Spencer made the three foul shots.The reality is that refs could call a foul on most possessions because of elbowing and hand checking.

 

[pmvon]

Is bitching about the refs a party thing?

No but it’s part of the post game analysis and discussion. Good plays, bad plays, officiating, coaching, broadcast etc. Now fans are generally biased about officiating but that doesn’t make it a useless discussion as it can affect the outcome of games.

 

[mildone_rivals]

Good question. I googled it after you asked. I could not find any instance of the NCAA reversing a game. I found 1 instance of a HS game that was reverse because the refs went way too far with allowing a 17 point play to erase a deficit. That screams for a reversal to make it right. The refs assessed 8 technicals against a team for a tussle between 2 players that was started by the team that was behind. A player made 17 of 18 foul shots to give his team a 6 point win.

I would’ve guessed reversals are extremely rare at best. When one puts on their league officials hat, instead of their fan hats, you can see why reversals of game results, due solely to officiating mistakes or appearance of ref bias, are very problematic.

Basically, if the league does it once, it’ll open a pandora’s box of claims by numerous teams. Would cost a fortune in man-hours reviewing everything. Everybody thinks their particular situation has more merit than everybody else’s.

 

[rudad02]

Anyone catch where the announcers were trying to back to the first half on a play where OSU was called for a shotclock violation but it should have been a foul on Cam? Seemed like they were trying to make a big deal about th call but it fell flat. Listen BIG network, nothing can replace that terrible call in the first game.

Yes I did. First of all, aside from any shot clock violation or not Cam didn't foul the guy. Looked like all ball. They seem to call an awful lot of phantom & ticky tac fouls on Cam. Wonder if it has anything to do with him being our best shooter & scorer?