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PSAL_Hoops

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Right now 10 seems reasonable. Indiana still has a borderline tournament resume at the moment because of the Xavier and UNC wins and no bad losses.

It seems odd that WF isn’t even sniffing the bubble while he has teams like Memphis in the field.
 
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Recency bias still prevails. Memphis profile is ok but nothing great...neutral site win over Auburn
 
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PSAL_Hoops said:
Right now 10 seems reasonable. Indiana still has a borderline tournament resume at the moment because of the Xavier and UNC wins and no bad losses.

It seems odd that WF isn’t even sniffing the bubble while he has teams like Memphis in the field.
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Is Indiana getting the injured players back this season? I know the one guy had surgery and wasn't sure what the plan was for Thompson.
 
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bac2therac said:
Recency bias still prevails. Memphis profile is ok but nothing great...neutral site win over Auburn
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I didn’t mean to imply that Memphis has an awful profile, just that the gap between their resume and Wake’s is paper thin at best. He doesn’t even have WF on the cusp.

Beating Wisconsin (road) is similar to a neutral win over Auburn right now. He has Wiscy as an 8 and Auburn as a 7. Memphis’ next best wins are Nebraska, Texas A&M, Vandy and Ole Miss. Wake’s are much better - Duke, VTech, Georgia, Utah Valley (don’t laugh - they are 14-4 with wins @ Oregon, @ BYU and Sam Houston - compare that to Ole Miss…)

On the loss side - Memphis has lost @ St Louis, @ Tulane, Seton Hall (neutral) and @ UCF in addition to @ Alabama. Wake lost @ Rutgers, @ Clemson, @ UNC, LSU (neutral) and LM (home). The quads may tell a different story, but it doesn’t seem like Memphis has better losses either.
 
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PSAL_Hoops said:
I didn’t mean to imply that Memphis has an awful profile, just that the gap between their resume and Wake’s is paper thin at best. He doesn’t even have WF on the cusp.

Beating Wisconsin (road) is similar to a neutral win over Auburn right now. He has Wiscy as an 8 and Auburn as a 7. Memphis’ next best wins are Nebraska, Texas A&M, Vandy and Ole Miss. Wake’s are much better - Duke, VTech, Georgia, Utah Valley (don’t laugh - they are 14-4 with wins @ Oregon, @ BYU and Sam Houston - compare that to Ole Miss…)

On the loss side - Memphis has lost @ St Louis, @ Tulane, Seton Hall (neutral) and @ UCF in addition to @ Alabama. Wake lost @ Rutgers, @ Clemson, @ UNC, LSU (neutral) and LM (home). The quads may tell a different story, but it doesn’t seem like Memphis has better losses either.
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Per tweet he has Wake as 13th out...

 
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They will keep Duke in Greensboro. But if maybe RU can get that 4 or 5 seed in that Greensboro Pod. 2 wins & a ticket to Vegas. Hometown crowd for Dean, and easy travel for RU fans…
 
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bac2therac said:
Hes a joke...prime example to not take any bracketology serious in January
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You have posted that several times now, yet people keep sharing and discussing pre-mature bracketology. This phenomenon is getting as bad as snowstorm predictions on social media. All kidding aside, it gives us a chance to take a look at how teams’ resumes are starting to shape up, but seeding teams is ridiculous at this point.
 
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RUPete said:
You have posted that several times now, yet people keep sharing and discussing pre-mature bracketology. This phenomenon is getting as bad as snowstorm predictions on social media. All kidding aside, it gives us a chance to take a look at how teams’ resumes are starting to shape up, but seeding teams is ridiculous at this point.
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I think putting teams in groupings is more beneficial

Most likely, likely, bubble plus, bubble negative, longshot

With so many games, even a school like Gonzaga isnt a lock with this many games to play or Minnesota still has a chance. Need to narrow that window. Lunardis opinion of Wake is prime example. Their NET is getting heavily weighed in rather than their wins. Much like what happened with Rutgers last year where we were being slept on because of our non conference performance

All season bracketology started to show up a few years ago and now its gone crazy. This is the first year this board seems all in on it on tracking it from mid December

I probably am probably about 18 days from my first write up but won't do a first bracket until February 7
 
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bac2therac said:
I think putting teams in groupings is more beneficial

Most likely, likely, bubble plus, bubble negative, longshot

With so many games, even a school like Gonzaga isnt a lock with this many games to play or Minnesota still has a chance. Need to narrow that window

All season bracketology started to show up a few years ago and now its gone crazy. This is the first year this board seems all in on it on tracking it from mid December

I probably am probably about 18 days from my first write up but won't do a first bracket until February 7
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Anyone have bracketology yet for the 2023-2024 season?
Are we in?
What is our current projected seed?
 
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bac2therac said:
I think putting teams in groupings is more beneficial

Most likely, likely, bubble plus, bubble negative, longshot

With so many games, even a school like Gonzaga isnt a lock with this many games to play or Minnesota still has a chance. Need to narrow that window. Lunardis opinion of Wake is prime example. Their NET is getting heavily weighed in rather than their wins. Much like what happened with Rutgers last year where we were being slept on because of our non conference performance

All season bracketology started to show up a few years ago and now its gone crazy. This is the first year this board seems all in on it on tracking it from mid December

I probably am probably about 18 days from my first write up but won't do a first bracket until February 7
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You make some great points. Maybe the bracketologists should adopt the early and mid-season evaluation model you propose. It would be much more useful and still spur discussion.
 
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Bracketology is for clicks..brings in the views the genie cant be put bac in the bottle
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I dunno. People will get tired over time of stuff that doesn’t play out at all. There is meat and there are clicks that would come along with the discussion you propose in January.
 
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I post these because it's entertainment for me. Of course it means nothing now. I'm interested on seeing what the perception of RU is with these people. It's all for fun now. If people are that super serious about it don't look at it.
 
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RUPete said:
You have posted that several times now, yet people keep sharing and discussing pre-mature bracketology. This phenomenon is getting as bad as snowstorm predictions on social media. All kidding aside, it gives us a chance to take a look at how teams’ resumes are starting to shape up, but seeding teams is ridiculous at this point.
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All the bracketologists are so good.
BAC is as good as any of them.

Having said that I think it really should now be predicting seeding. Everybody gets it right except the last A10 or Pac 12 pick which I think the committee does because they can.
 
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While it is still very early, it is fun to discuss & speculate locations/seeding.
I have points/flight credits on multiple airlines, so I buy a few one way tickets for various site possibilities.
Right now I am holding a one ways to Denver & Raleigh, & one way returns from Orlando & Vegas
 
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JavaDunk18 said:
While it is still very early, it is fun to discuss & speculate locations/seeding.
I have points/flight credits on multiple airlines, so I buy a few one way tickets for various site possibilities.
Right now I am holding a one ways to Denver & Raleigh, & one way returns from Orlando & Vegas
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Seeding potential - sure.

Location seems like a waste of time to me. For starters, after the top 4 seeds isnt it completely random?
 
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Last year was odd with Indiana getting a higher seed and we getting a play in game.

Both RU and ND were hosed and better than seeded.
 
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PSAL_Hoops said:
Seeding potential - sure.

Location seems like a waste of time to me. For starters, after the top 4 seeds isnt it completely random?
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At least for the first weekend it's not random. 2 and 3 seeds are given a venue that's as close as possible geographically. Maybe 4 seeds too. After that it's about avoiding regular season rematches, conference foes, etc.
 
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Last year had also bought a ticket to San Diego in advance (the cyber Monday before actually) and almost looked like prophet on Selection Sunday. If not for an errant inbounds pass, would have. Ended up going anyway, as San Diego is the best spot for tourney for multiple reasons, weather, college campus, trolley , etc..Was frustrating to see ND on the brink of a sweet sixteen, though. Both were way underseeded, would have been a great 8/9 game (way better than the klunker Seton Hall provided there)
 
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JavaDunk18 said:
Last year had also bought a ticket to San Diego in advance (the cyber Monday before actually) and almost looked like prophet on Selection Sunday. If not for an errant inbounds pass, would have. Ended up going anyway, as San Diego is the best spot for tourney for multiple reasons, weather, college campus, trolley , etc..Was frustrating to see ND on the brink of a sweet sixteen, though. Both were way underseeded, would have been a great 8/9 game (way better than the klunker Seton Hall provided there)
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San Diego should be a host city every year
 
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Watching Oklahoma v WVU game. Two potential tourney teams and I know it’s early but amazed how empty arena appears. What else could possibly be going on in Norman, Oklahoma?
 
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Watching Oklahoma v WVU game. Two potential tourney teams and I know it’s early but amazed how empty arena appears. What else could possibly be going on in Norman, Oklahoma?
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Both are not going
 
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