We looked good with him playing in the first half. Not in the second half. He played with a different line up though.
Cliff a liability right now
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Clueless as usual
11 rebounds
3 assists
2 blocks
Great job passing the pall out of the double team which led to baskets
More to the game than just scoring
McConnell PLAYED good d. Past tense. Haven’t seen it this year. Pike will continue to play him starter minutes but Hyatt’s d isn’t any worse and he’s a much better offensive player.
We have some really ignorant “fans” who think scoring is everything
He is hurt. I sat front row last game. It's clear. You don't know what you're talking about
Par for the course
start Hyatt, but in for Mag
Let Mag have decent off the bench minutes however
I keep McConnell in
Great road win against a bubble team. This thread has multiple clown takes - Cliff and Caleb being liabilities is painfully ignorant. Total joke.
If you haven’t seen good D from Caleb this year, then you don’t know what good D is.
He has a sleeve on his calf. He was CLEARLY favoring his right side at Iowa. I sat 1st row. It is very obvious from that close. Every step when he's walking you can see it when you're only feet away from him
Not sure why some people who know nothing insist he isn't hurt so that they can push an anti Cliff narrative. Just a weird mindset from negative self loathing fans
This take is really really bad
Didnt Dean not box out on a NW missed free throw which led to a 3-pointer by NW
We don’t have a choice but to play both Paul and Caleb almost the whole game even when they have off days. We’re a turnover machine without both of them on the floor together for long stretches and that’s true even considering Caleb’s untimely turnovers.
Our depth is mostly guys who are only suited for 4-5 - Hyatt, Mag, Wolf, Reiber
We basically have Simpson as the sub for Paul, Caleb and Cam.
He’s been too slow on closeouts since coming back. Hyatt got beat once by Buie off the dribble but Cliff was supposed to be there. Other than that play, Hyatt did fine all game.
Even if this was true, it wouldn’t matter. Hyatt can’t handle the ball. At all. Neither can Mag. That’s why Pike mostly plays these guys at the 4 only and not that much together. Pretty much never without Paul and Caleb together. Being able to handle the ball even a little comes at a premium on this team. Paul is a great distributor but he’s not necessarily the best ball handling PG. He needs help and Pike does a great job of using Caleb and Cam to help Paul. It doesn’t work, unfortunately with the other guys. They can’t handle on ball perimeter pressure even a little. We use Simpson to spell the 3 guys we have and deal with frosh growing pains. But now that we’re in BIG play, it’s really not an option in most match ups to slide those guys over to the 2 or 3.
He didn't get the rebound on the play before the FT then fouled... then didn't get the rebound on the missed FT. It was a brutal stretch for Dean there
Where is Wolf!?!?!
I suggest OP looks up the definition of liability
Holy hyperbole Batman
Holy hyperbole Batman
Absolutely - but was that when Caleb and Mag were both on the bench? If so, we put Dean in a pretty bad rebounding spot line up wise.
I concede that good point, that McConnell can run the O and handle the ball but you don’t need that with Paul in the game, especially when Spencer is in the game too. McConnell gets loyalty minutes. Hyatt is the better player. In fact, I think Mag is better too.
Live reaction to the OP's take in this thread.
Cliff definitely looks a bit off out there - the lack of burst is noticeable.
That said we still need him out there.
Hopefully whatever it is heals up.
That said we still need him out there.
Hopefully whatever it is heals up.
No - for our halfcourt offense we need 3 perimeter players because Paul isn’t the best ball handling PG. He’s an excellent distributor but that isn’t the same as being able to handle on ball pressure and traps. And we don’t really want Cam being a primary handler anyway. We’re looking to find catch and shoot opportunities for him. He’s supposed to be option 3 in running the offense.
The problem is Mag and Hyatt are almost a guaranteed turnover when they start dribbling on the perimeter. That’s why Pike doesn’t play them there. Neither of them look good when one has to slide over in games due to foul trouble. It’s not like we haven’t tried.
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Look - not criticizing the guy personally. But he’s not himself. R
Right now it’s the Cam, Mulcahy and Hyatt show. Hopefully Cliff rights the ship and he and Mconnel (who also ha struggled some, even on D) can carry the team at another point.
Right now it’s the Cam, Mulcahy and Hyatt show. Hopefully Cliff rights the ship and he and Mconnel (who also ha struggled some, even on D) can carry the team at another point.
Whole thread should be deleted.....onto Ohio State
This is like when people didn’t think
too bad I can only hit the like button once.
Others have said it and I agree — we have fans who either have no understanding of the game or have completely unrealistic expectations. We are a good, bordering on very good, team. We play great defense. Sure, I’d love if we played great offense too but that would have us undefeated and #1 in the country. This is who we are and fans are too busy complaining to enjoy this team.
This thread is funny.....as in moving the goal posts kind of funny. Going into the season it was RU can't win on the road. Now that the team has shown it can....its now that individual players are not perfect.
THIS!!! Defenses have to account for Cliff in a big way. If they want to take away his inside game it creates opportunities for everyone else. Then they have to account for Cam from the outside. Now we have 3 guys that have the gift of space. Win!
He was literally the reason Cam was so open for the game winner. SMH
There was a stretch where he had a real nice mid range game and could contribute some. Now that's gone and exclusively one side of court contributor. Also one or two head scratcher plays every game.
I'd go further, his spacing, reads and ball movement are a negative. He sometimes makes it harder for other players to score or make the right offensive play. It's amazing to me that he's played so many games and isn't even a decent ball movement guy.
His offensive rebounding has been valuable and timely though. His defense is good enough to keep him on the court though, he's really that good of a defender.
Some would say that scoring isn’t everything, but it’s way ahead of whatever is next important.
He got his hands on the hall to force the TO on the last possession and then was the reason Spencer was left open for a 3.
I wouldn’t call that a liability bud. Do you see what we have behind him?
Yes the game thread went crazy on that. Pike pulled him right after too.
So, they didn't know that keeping an athletic , long , 6'11" guy away from the rim was a good thing until 3 games ago ?
Yea, that makes sense
The only person depressed in this thread and on the team is YOU!