Come on man. He was 6 of 8 and his mid range game was money in the Iowa game just a few days ago. He had a bad game against NW but it wasn’t even as bad as our fans are making it. He was 2-6 but both shots were lay ups. After missing badly on his first mid range he seemed to realize his shot was off. 2 of the other 3 misses were with the shot clock winding down.
Cliff a liability right now
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Let's hope Ohio St is reading this thread and buying into the notion that he's hurt and depressed. 
The sky isnt falling just because he's not throwing down as many monster dunks. Others have said that teams are focusing on taking his game away. Perhaps its not a coincidence that Spencer and other shooters are scoring more while his offense has suffered a little?
The sky isnt falling just because he's not throwing down as many monster dunks. Others have said that teams are focusing on taking his game away. Perhaps its not a coincidence that Spencer and other shooters are scoring more while his offense has suffered a little?
Agreed. Also had some key rebounds, blocked some shots and did a better job passing out of the double team.
The best part of Hyatt is to be able to bring him off the bench. Team is fine where he is. Same with Mag. He does what the team needs him to do, while starting.
This is a ridiculous thread that should probably be deleted...
Caleb was chasing Buie and Audige all game. They went 8-25 for 25 points combined. I like Hyatt a bunch but he doesn't defend like Caleb.
I think it's just poorly titled. "Cliff's struggles" or "Cliff is frustrating at times" would be a better title, but the inflammatory stuff gets the replies.
Without Cliff we are a sub .500 Big Ten team, does anyone challenge that?
But it is entertaining to point out his flaws. That's what internet message boards are for right?
Plus, look at the guy, he looks like a superhero, you know we're all jealous.
Someone pointed out that the players he defended shot 8 for 25, which is not stellar
We can't measure his defense on the noticeable steals only
If he disrupted play sets of the opposition it doesn't show up on the books
Hyatt had a good game because he hit a few outside shots that everyone notices
Hyatt and Simpson are always ready to shoot, imo, when they have the ball and open
Yesterday it worked in regards to Hyatt
I don't know if we can count on that game after game, and in critical situations
Both good players, but not the go to players in crunch time
Cam outside Paul top of the key, or Cliff inside if We can get there
Correct
And you give him decent opportunity to do it again
We don't have to juggle starting lineups unless it is clear that he belongs in it
He dunked the ball last night with a defender pushing him in the back. That's not happening if he was hurt.
Stupid thread title but that’s the norm. We don’t win without Cliff last night.
You can argue all you want, there is no denying that Caleb and Cliff have not contributed on offense recently and this is hurting the team alot. They should both be scoring in double figures and it is very puzzling that they are not; it also puts alot of pressure on the rest of the team.. In addition, Caleb's turnovers in last 5 games are headscratchers - sometimes he looks like a freshman, not a senior.
Cliff is still raw. No court awareness or instinct. Too often ends up stuck behind the backboard like a clumsy 5th grader. Even a stiff (sorry for the term) like the NU ctr can hold his own just with savvy and recognizing limitations…even on defense. Like the screen to keep Cliff from defending Buie’s drove past Hyatt.
You’re not criticizing him personally?
You started a thread in the middle of a game that we WON, singled him personally out for playing horribly on both ends of the floor, and even had the nerve to insinuate it could be from depression. Re-evaluate.
Lol. You seriously think Cliff isn't capable of dunking hurt? Come on man. Think a little