OT: RIP Pope Benedict

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RIP. I thought I heard he was not in good health a few days ago so this is not unexpected.
 

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Might be the last of the traditional popes of the Catholic church. Unfortunately for him he'll most be remembered for following one of the real giants of the Church, John Paul II .
Like the old saying goes, you don't want to be the guy who replaces a legend. You want to be the guy who replaces the guy who replaced the legend.

R.I.P. Your Holiness
 
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Might be the last of the traditional popes of the Catholic church. Unfortunately for him he'll most be remembered for following one of the real giants of the Church, John Paul II .
Like the old saying goes, you don't want to be the guy who replaces a legend. You want to be the guy who replaces the guy who replaced the legend.

R.I.P. Your Holiness

He was the perfect transitional Pope and did his job well. R.I.P.
 

yesrutgers01

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Might be the last of the traditional popes of the Catholic church. Unfortunately for him he'll most be remembered for following one of the real giants of the Church, John Paul II .
Like the old saying goes, you don't want to be the guy who replaces a legend. You want to be the guy who replaces the guy who replaced the legend.

R.I.P. Your Holiness
I think that is part of his greatness. Traditional but recognized the world is changing and for the Catholic Religion, and in some ways- many religions, needed to start to transition or start losing followers. The fact that he had the strength to step away to allow Francis to succeed him is amazing upon itself. Selfless.
 

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RIP Pope Emeritus Benedict XV
A true leader that knew when it was time to step aside and let another lead his Church.
The Catholic Religion moved into the present because of the leadership of Pope Benedict and will move forward because of the way Pope Benedict set the course for his successor Pope Francis to follow bringing Catholicism into the modern world
 
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I have no idea where people get the idea Ben was secular transmogrifier .
Contrary to popular belief the seminaries pre-Ben were lax and increasingly corrupt.
Ben made acceptance rules stricter.
Of course things were already off the hook, and the Vatican is now famous for every manner of vice and corruption (like everywhere else in organized burecracies).
Vatican is flush with CCP cash and recently threw one of its best cardinals (Cardinal Zen - stout Hong Kong freedom fighter) under the bus (while also breaking laws in US).
Americans often forget the CC is bigger than US and Europe, and a lot of western secular indulgence doesn't play in a lot of places.
Our local CCs are busting at the seams with old skool immies from foreign places
We had a mile long parade on Christmas Day, and 1000s come for crucifixion re-enactments on Easter
The don't like "Latinx" label or the various psychopathologies being cloaked as "progress"
Another mistake is interpreting decline in organized institutions as a decline in principled fervor.
Lots of people gave-up on institutions (especially the Protestant denominations who became most secular of all and embraced liberation theology) but still believe humans have a divine spark in the psyche

 
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I have no idea where people get the idea Ben was secular transmogrifier .
Contrary to popular belief the seminaries pre-Ben were lax and increasingly corrupt.
Ben made acceptance rules stricter.
Of course things were already off the hook, and the Vatican is now famous for every manner of vice and corruption (like everywhere else in organized burecracies).
Vatican is flush with CCP cash and recently threw one of its best cardinals (Cardinal Zen - stout Hong Kong freedom fighter) under the bus (while also breaking laws in US).
Americans often forget the CC is bigger than US and Europe, and a lot of western secular indulgence doesn't play in a lot of places.
Our local CCs are busting at the seams with old skool immies from foreign places
We had a mile long parade on Christmas Day, and 1000s come for crucifixion re-enactments on Easter
The don't like "Latinx" label or the various psychopathologies being cloaked as "progress"
Another mistake is interpreting decline in organized institutions as a decline in principled fervor.
Lots of people gave-up on institutions (especially the Protestant denominations who became most secular of all and embraced liberation theology) but still believe humans have a divine spark in the psyche

A man just passed! Not the place for your ranting.
 

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And I almost didn’t understand a word or the concept of his rant.
As always, I am here to help. I attained a PhD in ashokanism during my misspent years on the CE board.

If you have any specific questions, are looking for translation of a particular phrase or term, or just want a synopsis of his post, feel free to ask. 🙂
 
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Not a rant. A background explanation. And you (and the folks who liked your insult) don't give a single **** about the man or the church.
Huh? What ashokan did definitely qualifies as a rant.

And why speak ill of the dead or of the church that way? I'm an extremely lapsed Catholic and so, as you correctly point out, I don't GAF about the man or the church. But even I wouldn't badmouth either one in this thread. Let the poor man rest in peace.
 
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I have no idea where people get the idea Ben was secular transmogrifier .
Contrary to popular belief the seminaries pre-Ben were lax and increasingly corrupt.
Ben made acceptance rules stricter.
Of course things were already off the hook, and the Vatican is now famous for every manner of vice and corruption (like everywhere else in organized burecracies).
Vatican is flush with CCP cash and recently threw one of its best cardinals (Cardinal Zen - stout Hong Kong freedom fighter) under the bus (while also breaking laws in US).
Americans often forget the CC is bigger than US and Europe, and a lot of western secular indulgence doesn't play in a lot of places.
Our local CCs are busting at the seams with old skool immies from foreign places
We had a mile long parade on Christmas Day, and 1000s come for crucifixion re-enactments on Easter
The don't like "Latinx" label or the various psychopathologies being cloaked as "progress"
Another mistake is interpreting decline in organized institutions as a decline in principled fervor.
Lots of people gave-up on institutions (especially the Protestant denominations who became most secular of all and embraced liberation theology) but still believe humans have a divine spark in the psyche

The protestant churches that stopped talking about Jesus...and started down the progressive secular path became essentially social groups. Those churches are dead.
 

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The protestant churches that stopped talking about Jesus...and started down the progressive secular path became essentially social groups. Those churches are dead.
I'm guessing probably not so much to their congregations. Which of Jesus's teachings was it where he said "hate all those who don't talk enough about me"? Are synagogues all dead too, seeing as they don't view Jesus as the son of God?

Good news, though. You got me talking about Jesus for the first time in months or years even. So my church of hookers and blow is no longer dead.

Amen! Halleluiah!. Pass the mirror to the left hand side!
 
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I'm guessing probably not so much to their congregations. Which of Jesus's teachings was it where he said "hate all those who don't talk enough about me"? Are synagogues are all dead too, seeing as they don't view Jesus as the son of God?

Good news, though. You got me talking about Jesus for the first time in months or years even. So my church of hookers and blow is no longer dead.

Amen! Halleluiah!. Pass the mirror to the left hand side!
I guess any religion that started over 2000 years ago would also fall into being social clubs too.
Myself- Christian non Catholic and non church going. But I respect every religion and person with their beliefs.
Even though Benedict was traditional, he also very much respected every belief.
RIP
 

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Hey Screw sober the f'k up and go find another thread to be a jerkoff in. Don't tell me who I care about. Let ashocan defend himself!

Are you implying someone would have to be drunk to disagree with you? Because the post sure didn't read as drunk. Nor was it made drunk. Using you "logic" a man just passed, not the place for your jerkoff attack on anything, Dipshit.
 

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Rutgers is anti-Catholic and always have been. and they wonder why donations in NJ are so low.
I haven't seen anybody in this thread being anti-Catholic. I have seen one guy being anti Church/pope, and a couple/few apparent Catholic guys attack other religions.

I think that, sometimes, some religious people view it as some sort of personal religious affront when people don't agree with a biased viewpoint that seeks to elevate one particular chosen religion above all others. But that is a logical fallacy conceived by snowflakes who can't take alternative viewpoints.

One can always easily be for their own chosen religion, or for no religion at all, while simultaneously not being at all opposed to anybody else's religion.
 
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I'm guessing probably not so much to their congregations. Which of Jesus's teachings was it where he said "hate all those who don't talk enough about me"? Are synagogues all dead too, seeing as they don't view Jesus as the son of God?

Good news, though. You got me talking about Jesus for the first time in months or years even. So my church of hookers and blow is no longer dead.

Amen! Halleluiah!. Pass the mirror to the left hand side!
"Hate" what are you talking about?? Why are you spewing misinformation?

I have pity on people who attend supposed Christian churchs but don't hear the truth.

Regarding the Catholic church, I predict it will split into a liberal church that essentially throws away the portions of the Bible not currently in favor and one with more traditional teachings. This will almost certainly happen in next 20 yrs, if not sooner.
 
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"Hate" what are you talking about?? Why are you spewing misinformation?

I have pity on people who attend supposed Christian churchs but don't hear the truth.

Regarding the Catholic church, I predict it will split into a liberal church that essentially throws away the portions of the Bible not currently in favor and one with more traditional teachings. This will almost certainly happen in next 20 yrs, if not sooner.
actually some religious leaders have thrown part of the bible away for political reasons.
Religions are being split because of how some religious leaders are interpreting what the bible says ,putting hate ahead of compassion.
Some words to a song say best on what's happening to religious beliefs in today's society
and the lack of compassion many who claim to follow the Lord's teaching act towards others.

"Go ahead and hate your neighbor
Go ahead and cheat a friend
Do it in the name of Heaven
You can justify it in the end"
 
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RIP to the man.

Since politics have already been interjected, I'll throw in my two cents. A lot of folks here loved the guy since he was so conservative. IMO, he won't go down as one of the greats, unfortunately. Sex abuse scandals and opposition to condoms are a big part of his legacy.
 
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"Hate" what are you talking about?? Why are you spewing misinformation?

I have pity on people who attend supposed Christian churchs but don't hear the truth.

Regarding the Catholic church, I predict it will split into a liberal church that essentially throws away the portions of the Bible not currently in favor and one with more traditional teachings. This will almost certainly happen in next 20 yrs, if not sooner.
What makes you think you, or the Catholic Church, or any other human or human-designed organization, has a unique claim on the truth? What makes any human ever born qualified to judge the truth about spiritual, religious, Godly things?

This is where the wheels come off the bus, when people insist they know the truth and everybody else is wrong. Jesus preached love. Said it was above all other things. That sounds like a pretty good truth to me.

I‘m gotta hit the shower and head out. But I’m gonna practice what Jesus said and love people tonight. Don’t need any religions to tell me that’s a good thing to do (especially the shower).

Everybody have a safe, happy, healthy new year.
 
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"Hate" what are you talking about?? Why are you spewing misinformation?

I have pity on people who attend supposed Christian churchs but don't hear the truth.

Regarding the Catholic church, I predict it will split into a liberal church that essentially throws away the portions of the Bible not currently in favor and one with more traditional teachings. This will almost certainly happen in next 20 yrs, if not sooner.

Wut? Are you also the Russian guy predicting war with the West?
 
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I haven't seen anybody in this thread being anti-Catholic. I have seen one guy being anti Church/pope, and a couple/few apparent Catholic guys attack other religions.

I think that, sometimes, some religious people view it as some sort of personal religious affront when people don't agree with a biased viewpoint that seeks to elevate one particular chosen religion above all others. But that is a logical fallacy conceived by snowflakes who can't take alternative viewpoints.

One can always easily be for their own chosen religion, or for no religion at all, while simultaneously not being at all opposed to anybody else's
I haven't seen anybody in this thread being anti-Catholic. I have seen one guy being anti Church/pope, and a couple/few apparent Catholic guys attack other religions.

I think that, sometimes, some religious people view it as some sort of personal religious affront when people don't agree with a biased viewpoint that seeks to elevate one particular chosen religion above all others. But that is a logical fallacy conceived by snowflakes who can't take alternative viewpoints.

One can always easily be for their own chosen religion, or for no religion at all, while simultaneously not being at all opposed to anybody else's religion.
I haven't seen anybody in this thread being anti-Catholic. I have seen one guy being anti Church/pope, and a couple/few apparent Catholic guys attack other religions.

I think that, sometimes, some religious people view it as some sort of personal religious affront when people don't agree with a biased viewpoint that seeks to elevate one particular chosen religion above all others. But that is a logical fallacy conceived by snowflakes who can't take alternative viewpoints.

One can always easily be for their own chosen religion, or for no religion at all, while simultaneously not being at all opposed to anybody else's religion.
Jim Valvano and Dick Vitale were denied Head coach positions at Rutgers because of religious bias
 

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This thread sure took on a dark tone.
IMHO there are many pathways and doors to get into Paradise (if you believe in that, I do). When people tell you that their way is the only way to get there, they are the dangerous ones.
 

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Conversation in Heaven today.

JP: Do you believe what these guys onTKR are arguing about today?
Ben: Yeah but it's better than another thread on "When are we going to hire an OC?"
 
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