I talked to a starter on PSU's defense. His take on RU. The defense is very good. They are talented, play very hard, and STRESSED that they play together and fight for each other. Said the constant three and outs kill the defensive players, particularly linemen. As to the offense. First thing he said, is that they do not play for each other. Everyone wants theirs. Thinks Gavin has talent, but needs more nurturing and development. Finally said, the WRs are very easy to cover, slow, and not quick. They were basically on the side line laughing about the offensive ineptitude.
Talked to a PSU Starter About RU
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Sounds about right. Offense needs to be more cohesive and needs more talent.
While this is my attitude 100% of the time insight like OP is rare.
Not a troll. Posting for years. If you are not interested in hearing what a starter on a top 10 team has to say about our team, then you are an ostrich. I thought his insights were very interesting.
Nothing we didn’t already know
You should ask him if the locker room environment has improved at State Penn
Fits the Schiano template - a Boys Town version of Rex Ryan with the spicey defense and the franks-n-beans offense.
Brian Billick says the hardest thing to do physically (in a game) is to rush the passer.
The famous Warren Sapp Tampa Bay defense was known to be flat after the first 27 plays.
Not surprised player said the 3 and outs hurt DL the most.
Brian Billick says the hardest thing to do physically (in a game) is to rush the passer.
The famous Warren Sapp Tampa Bay defense was known to be flat after the first 27 plays.
Not surprised player said the 3 and outs hurt DL the most.
Hence why the OC hire and transfer portal for offense is extremely important this year. This will make or break Schiano's tenure this time around.
I had no idea about the offense not playing for each other, but the defense is locked in as a group. That was an insight/opinion that was completely new to me. Yes OC is walking into something challenging.
Re: the offense not playing for each other:
1. I think skill position players are generally selfish, and at PSU too. There's only one ball and the only way to shine and be noticed in those positions is to be featured.
2. Overall ineptitude. including from the 3 QBs exacerbates #1, and PSU doesn't suffer from this.
So yes, the players are bad and the offense is bad. Not exactly a surprising opinion. It's easy to see.
1. I think skill position players are generally selfish, and at PSU too. There's only one ball and the only way to shine and be noticed in those positions is to be featured.
2. Overall ineptitude. including from the 3 QBs exacerbates #1, and PSU doesn't suffer from this.
So yes, the players are bad and the offense is bad. Not exactly a surprising opinion. It's easy to see.
What exactly does it mean that the Offensive players do not play for each other?
How is it different from other teams offenses?
Isnt the OP on the faculty at PSU? Was the PSU player possibly pulling his leg?
This is mostly a nothing burger imo.
How is it different from other teams offenses?
Isnt the OP on the faculty at PSU? Was the PSU player possibly pulling his leg?
This is mostly a nothing burger imo.
An 18/19 year old who plays D1 football, against the team being analyzed? An 18/19 year old who watches film, basically as a job? An 18/19 who has been on the field with our players and interacted with them?
Yea, I'll take his word over some dude who sits in the stands and posts on a message board.
right mike, especially when it's the same view the rest of us have. i do find it interesting though that hundreds of us internet posters are 100% sure "Joe Knew" without actually being there or having any more intel than my grandfather who died in 1961 did. But I digress.
The kid said PSU players chuckled about RU's lack of talent on offense, and some don't believe what he says he was a part of ?
It's only a nothing burger when we lose.
See the thread on the basketball board where everyone is upset that an Indiana podcaster tried to justify their loss to us.
Then it's very important what opposing teams players/fans think about us and people have to seek out every possible feedback.
That seems like a very simplistic analysis from that Penn State starter: the defense is good, therefore, they "play for each other." The offense is not as good, so they "don't play for each other."
Coach Schiano may have faults, but I think creating a culture in which players "don't play for each other" is not something he has done.
They just need better offensive players and a willingness to actually try to move the ball without worrying so much (in my opinion; although I am even less-qualified to comment than the Penn State starter)...
So you're just taking that one part of what I said and ignoring the part where I also said that he was on the field with the players, interacting with them. Really well done by you.
This is the part people miss.
When you are confident in your defense stopping the other team (because of your own defensive skill or other teams offensive ineptitude) you actually play MORE aggressive on offense.
You don't just punt and "let the defense handle it".
You take the chance on offense and if it doesn't work then trust the defense to hold the fort.
It’s quite the take to argue, given what we know about the shower incident and it’s aftermath, that whether “Joe Knew” is in question.
Heard the same exact thing from OSU secondary coach.
Our receivers posed no threat to them and covering them presented no issues
Would be interested in the player’s insights on NIL baseline ($) and NIL opportunities for both teams.
you mean, what you THINK you know about the incident. i bring that up because in this thread, detached internet posters THINK they know more about what the PSU starter said was discussed on the sideline and game planning than he himself did know, actually being there.
So our defense is good and our offense sucks. We already know that lol.
We keep saying the OC sucks.
Our peers are quite upfront about the fact our receivers pose no problems or issues for their defense.
Replacing the OC does not remedy the issue
I thought Cruickshank and Youngblood had elite speed?
We missed Bo this year more then many think.
Both of those guys literally run themselves into coverage
I will say, one and two man routes made it super easy on opposing secondaries
They are really fast. But does fast mean that you can get separation? Most routes rely more on quickness in and out of breaks. I'm reminded of Jason Witten at the end of his career. That guy was running about a 8.5 in the 40 and he still got separation every time down the field. It was maddening.
They had speed but lacked ball skills. Ryan had the best ball skills of the bunch and Jones made some nice plays. We haven’t replaced Leonte Carroo, which is the caliber of receiver we need to be successful.
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