Recruiting Pitch

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So, what is Greg’s pitch , especially the football part, when he goes into a recruit’s home to sell the kid ( and his parents) on Rutgers? Playing time, B1G, facilities…. What closes the deal?
 

Rokodesh

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Sadly, playing time because top tier recruits aren't interested in Rutgers.Player development will make lower level recruits better.The problem is such a strategy won't work in the BIG Ten because the competition is too strong.
Ummm.. there is no player development
 
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MulletCork

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Come here and we will pass for 20 yards. If you’re lucky you might get 10 but you won’t score.
 

sct1111

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Greg can recruit defensive recruits but he needs to stay the hell away from offensive guys. This OC hire needs to be big time.
 

Shelby65

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Hobbs can’t force Schiano to do anything. Schiano doesn’t even need to take his phone calls.
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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Sadly, playing time because top tier recruits aren't interested in Rutgers.Player development will make lower level recruits better.The problem is such a strategy won't work in the BIG Ten because the competition is too strong.
It also won't work because player development is non existent on offense. It's better on defense, but there is a low ceiling there. RU will never be good enough defensively to win consistently the way football is played now.
 
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ashokan

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In the past, the quote I've seen the most from Rutgers recruits was that coach was "trying to build something special" - meaning NJ special - "State of Rutgers" and all that. I think that had some traction in first go around.

There was/is also the education and character aspects Greg likes and that resonates with some parents. A thing I give Greg is that he usually recuits likeable players. I cant say I've ever disliked any RU player under Schiano
 

chakazullo

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Honestly, he really needs a huge step forward next year or he might not get Year 5. Offense is the way to a college kid’s heart.
 

R1766U_rivals

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We are in trouble. This is a great example of how the Big Ten is a blessing and a curse. I am usually very optimistic when it comes to Rutgers Football, but I think we may be at the point of no return, especially given NIL.
 
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Plum Street

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We are in trouble. This is a great example of how the Big Ten is a blessing and a curse. I am usually very optimistic when it comes to Rutgers Football, but I think we may be at the point of no return, especially given NIL.
If we decide we compete in this league , then we as a university need to decide what we want out of athletics.
I am hopeful we can win
 
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Transfer Portal: If you proved you can successfully compete as a QB at the Division 1 Level (or depth chart at a top program), you can be our starter.
 

yessir321

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We are in trouble. This is a great example of how the Big Ten is a blessing and a curse. I am usually very optimistic when it comes to Rutgers Football, but I think we may be at the point of no return, especially given NIL.
Might just be best to build our reputation through the basketball program. TBH it's not a bad approach and something Maryland did back in the early 2000's. Maryland football was a trainwreck from the late 80's throughout the 90's, the men's basketball team had tremendous success in the late 90's and early 2000's including the 2002 National championship, at the same time the football team had a resurgence that culminated in an Orange Bowl birth...

As for the football program, I never wanted schiano back, but that last press conferance along with press conferences all year were filled with excuses. I genuinely cannot remember a HC of any program who gives more excuses and throws his players under the bus more than greg. Genuinely that last press conference still making excuses to what he inherited... It's been 3 full years! You're really gonna keep bringing up what you inherited 3 years later?????? We're paying the guy $32 million to make excuses??
 

RCBeta79

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We are in trouble. This is a great example of how the Big Ten is a blessing and a curse. I am usually very optimistic when it comes to Rutgers Football, but I think we may be at the point of no return, especially given NIL.
Lack of NIL is an excuse for Rutgers or any other team competing in Football.
95% of the Division 1 Teams cannot compete with the Bluebloods on NIL.

A team has 11 starters on each side of the ball and a depth chart at each position bringing the total of regular players to about 40. 95% of the schools cannot pay more than a few players.

Without being a top 5% NIL payment program, you can still be a regular bowl eligible team.

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yessir321

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Developing a great punter means that your team stinks.Punters should see the least playing time of all.You should be able to move rhe ball at will and be bragging about your great RBS,WRS,QBS and OLS.An RU fan's wet dreams.
The #1 ranked HS team in the country, Mater Die, does not punt. They literally have not punted a single time this year
 

jsol_05

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In the past, the quote I've seen the most from Rutgers recruits was that coach was "trying to build something special" - meaning NJ special - "State of Rutgers" and all that. I think that had some traction in first go around.

There was/is also the education and character aspects Greg likes and that resonates with some parents. A thing I give Greg is that he usually recuits likeable players. I cant say I've ever disliked any RU player under Schiano
I will take a couple of bonehead, not criminals but boneheads if it mean extra wins😀
 

Kbee3

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Apparently it's not working so well.
Not one of the Top Ten recruits in the 2023 class in New Jersey has selected Rutgers.
 
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yessir321

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Lack of NIL is an excuse for Rutgers or any other team competing in Football.
95% of the Division 1 Teams cannot compete with the Bluebloods on NIL.

A team has 11 starters on each side of the ball and a depth chart at each position bringing the total of regular players to about 40. 95% of the schools cannot pay more than a few players.

Without being a top 5% NIL payment program, you can still be a regular bowl eligible team.

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see that's just the thing, I don't think anyone is expecting us to compete with the Bluebloods on a yearly basis, the issue is when we play the Maryland's of the world, who recruit at roughly the same level as us (both of their 5* recruits from 21' transfered out) and we get smoked 37-0... I'm not expecting us to ever perennially compete with Penn State, Ohio State and Michigan, honestly those teams are the "nice to beat once every 8 years" kinda teams... What CAN'T happen is getting blown out by teams like Minnesota and Maryland, losing by 17 to iowa in a game that iowa's offense only scored 14. Add on the fact that we finished the season ranked 122nd nationally in penalties per game.

We just want competence... I'm sorry, but if our Head coaches name was anything other than "Greg Schiano" with the same results as we've seen from 2.0 there would be a free for all on that coaches head... Regardless of what he's owed.

This is a coach who refused to recruit a QB this class in order to appease gavin... think about that for a minute.
 
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LotusAggressor_rivals

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Developing a great punter means that your team stinks.Punters should see the least playing time of all.You should be able to move rhe ball at will and be bragging about your great RBS,WRS,QBS and OLS.An RU fan's wet dreams.
This is true. If the punter is your best player, that's an indictment of your offensive philosophy and execution in addition to being an indictment of recruiting and player development.
 

RU Husky

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The #1 ranked HS team in the country, Mater Die, does not punt. They literally have not punted a single time this year
And they lost their rematch last night to St. John Bosco. Not #1 anymore. Rollinson retired- what a career!
 

zappaa

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Apparently it's not working so well.
Not one of the Top Ten recruits in the 2023 class in New Jersey has selected Rutgers.
Everyone one of them is receiving upfront money deposited directly into their bank accounts and have the promise of yearly NIL payments.
This is what college football at this level has become
 

jerzeyguy

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So was Fran Brown throwing around a bunch of money out of his pocket? Kinda funny he landed all them recruits, but now that he's gone, recruiting sucks - and we blame it all on NIL
 

Caliknight

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Developing a great punter means that your team stinks.Punters should see the least playing time of all.You should be able to move rhe ball at will and be bragging about your great RBS,WRS,QBS and OLS.An RU fan's wet dreams.
Schiano Ioves punting. I’ve never seen a HC spend as much time talking to the punter as Schiano does talking to Korsak. He’s talking to him on 3rd down before the ball is even snapped lol.
 

yessir321

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Everyone one of them is receiving upfront money deposited directly into their bank accounts and have the promise of yearly NIL payments.
This is what college football at this level has become
In fairness, Michigan does not do this. They do not pay any player to come to Michigan and Harbaugh has been adimant about that. Now granted, once those players arrive at michigan there are several NIL deals that benefit the entire team so inevitably players will cash in by going their.

 

Kbee3

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Everyone one of them is receiving upfront money deposited directly into their bank accounts and have the promise of yearly NIL payments.
This is what college football at this level has become
Well, Rutgers did get verbals from #11 Jasire Peterson, #16 John Stone, and #18 Famah Toure.
Do you think Rutgers threw any cash their way ?
 

zappaa

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So was Fran Brown throwing around a bunch of money out of his pocket? Kinda funny he landed all them recruits, but now that he's gone, recruiting sucks - and we blame it all on NIL
Before NIL was legal rampant
 
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zappaa

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Well, Rutgers did get verbals from #11 Jasire Peterson, #16 John Stone, and #18 Famah Toure.
Do you think Rutgers threw any cash their way ?
We all know verbals mean absolutely nothing until you sign, or whether anyone else has offered them upfront money.

There’s rumors Moses Walker is being offered money by other programs after not playing a down

It’s all quite boring and has taken the fun out of following recruiting for me, others like it.
 
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Kbee3

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We all know verbals mean absolutely nothing until you sign, or whether anyone else has offered them upfront money.

There’s rumors Moses Walker is being offered money by other programs after not playing a down

It’s all quite boring and has taken the fun out of following recruiting for me, others like it.
Rutgers has been systematically losing out on New Jersey's top players for as long as I can remember. Except for a few of the Schiano years. His success at that is one of the few things that gave me hope that RU could catch up to the Big Boys....maybe.
if the game becomes truly just throwing bags of money at prospects, Rutgers has no chance vs. those with huge stadiums, large followings, and lots of fans with deep pockets. And I don't think I want them to do so.
 

RU#1fan

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Sadly, playing time because top tier recruits aren't interested in Rutgers.Player development will make lower level recruits better.The problem is such a strategy won't work in the BIG Ten because the competition is too strong.
This and our inability to be even be remotely competitive with NIL payments with other B1G programs signals the end of recruiting. We will have to continue attract recruits with MAC and FCS offers only. Need to rely on schematic and creative play calling to compete. Stinks big time