It's called Long TDS.
OT: Elizabeth Holmes guilty
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It's called Long TDS.
It's uncalled for. Then they're the same ones who say, well the other side does it. Time to grow up and become a man.
It's tough to have conversations about Trump these days because it will always go political - and of course that automatically makes it a very divided conversation with strong feelings on both sides. I think on one hand becoming president was one of the worst things could have done for himself - it put a microscope on him and the way he has conducted business over his lifetime.
He has gotten away with things his whole life - it's impressive to be honest the level to which he has. I think he and Elizabeth Holmes are the two biggest Cons that I've ever seen. I can barely get 10% off of something even when I have the actual coupon for it - these two just have that SOMETHING where people will listen no matter what they say and then give their support, and open their pocketbooks. I personally am in awe of people like this.
also when Biden is mentioned, Trump's name is sure to follow.
Some poster's agenda makes that so.
One name gets mentioned, the other follows in a reply.
Politics hijack other issues.
This can be a reason for Trump's name to be involved
( thought I'm not sure if fact or fiction, but its out here for people to see)
Trump Taps Elizabeth Holmes to Lead FDA -
https://www.synbiobeta.com/read/trump-taps-elizabeth-holmes-to-lead-fda
Thatās precisely what happened in this thread. Biden was mentioned in a disparaging way, and a poster responded in kind going after Trump. No outrage about Biden being mentioned, only about Trump.
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You guys do realize Trumpies do the same thing. I canāt stand Biden and canāt think of anything good but some of you with the blind trumpets cry almost as much as he does.
Leaving the partisanship out of it, I was wonderingā¦
When the Madoff Ponzi scheme collapsed, they actually recovered some of the money through āclawbacksā, which was taking the money back from the people who actually made a profit because they were near the top of the pyramid.
What are the odds they claw back any of the FTX money from the politicians of both parties who took large campaign contributions from SBF and Ellison?
When the Madoff Ponzi scheme collapsed, they actually recovered some of the money through āclawbacksā, which was taking the money back from the people who actually made a profit because they were near the top of the pyramid.
What are the odds they claw back any of the FTX money from the politicians of both parties who took large campaign contributions from SBF and Ellison?
She will be out in far less. Ca releases murderers for less time. Shocked if she stays in prison for more than a couple of years.
Copyright in 2022 for a purported 2018 nomination? I'd take that one with a grain of salt
Between the likelihood of separate accounts and tracing of assets going into them I doubt it.
So surely you must think this latest congressional exercise is BDS, right?
RUDead: āNo, thatās different.ā
Federal charges. She is required to serve 85% of her sentence as there is no parole in the federal system.
So surely you must think this latest congressional exercise is BDS, right?
RUDead: āNo, thatās different.ā
What does a congressional investigation have to do with people posting on a rutgers message board?
Answer: Nothing
She showed up to her sentencing pregnant. Great job, Mom
In other words, āno, thatās differentā. Of course.
As to your question, ask this guy who first introduced politics into the thread in this post:
The āderangement syndromeā thing is quite possibly the best example of mass delusion in modern history. People bleat it out regularly despite it being an unarguably and obviously meaningless hypocritical avoidance response to every criticism, brought up in any context, of any politician in history.
And yet those who bleat it out have somehow deluded themselves into thinking theyāre making some sort of valid point that only applies when itās their guy being criticized. It never, in their sheep-minds, applies to their criticism of the other guy.
Just hilariously delusional.
In other words, āno, thatās differentā. Of course.
As to your question, ask this guy who first introduced politics into the thread in this post:
The āderangement syndromeā thing is quite possibly the best example of mass delusion in modern history. People bleat it out regularly despite it being an unarguably and obviously meaningless hypocritical avoidance response to every criticism, brought up in any context, of any politician in history.
And yet those who bleat it out have somehow deluded themselves into thinking theyāre making some sort of valid point that only applies when itās their guy being criticized. It never, in their sheep-minds, applies to their criticism of the other guy.
Just hilariously delusional.
You're gotcha attempt was terrible. Do better.
Many allegations but what has he been convicted of? His lawyer alleged a lot but was convicted of things unrelated to Trump. I'm no Trump fan and I'm sure many negative allegations are true... just as I don't doubt many allegations about Biden are true. I remember Biden dropping his presidential primary campaign in the 80's because he was caught lying everytime he opened his mouth. I hope Trump loses his primary bid in 24 and Biden decides not to run. The country will be much better off.
I believe that was the final straw. He lied about his high rank in law school, a 2nd degree there was no record of, an arrest at a civil rights protest where there's no record. I can't remember it all.
Transparently lame attempt to deflect.
I donāt need to get you. You āgotā yourself.Every person reading all this, who doesnāt have their head hopelessly stuck way up some politicianās butt, knows exactly what Iām saying and can see that youāre unable to defend your use of āderangement syndromeā. Because itās completely indefensible no matter whose side one is shilling for.
Go ahead and stun us all with your next sad attempt to deflect. This is usually where politically obsessed folks, being inescapably caught in their hypocrisy, resort to personal insults. So you could always give that a try and really let me have it. Because thatāll surely alter reality and make the use of derangement syndrome comments not be unarguably mindless drivel.
We definitely need better leadership. Neither side is producing much in the way of good leadership right now.
Think the way this thread is becomeing a hate Biden movement you'd think some of the replies were from Trump U grads that think the Trump Foundation was legit.
Also the Stormy affair , Donnie denied, was about climate change
Plus the investigations that were closed while he was President was just a coincidence and not because he made it so though his office.
Investigations close
Also the Stormy affair , Donnie denied, was about climate change
Plus the investigations that were closed while he was President was just a coincidence and not because he made it so though his office.
Investigations close
| mpaign finance crimes and coverup | Causing Cohen to make and/or accepting an unlawful individual contribution (February 2015 online poll) | 2015 | Causing (or accepting) an individual contribution in excess of the lawful limit | 52 U.S.C. Ā§Ā§ 30109, 30116, 30118; 18 U.S.C. Ā§ 2 | Investigation closed while Trump was president | 2020 | Source | |
| Campaign finance crimes and coverup | Causing Donald J. Trump for President LLCās failure to report AMIās contribution (McDougal Story) | 2016 | Causing a campaign committee to fail to report an unlawful corporate contribution | 52 U.S.C. Ā§Ā§ 30104, 30109; 18 U.S.C. Ā§ 2 | Investigation closed while Trump was president | 2021 if the conduct is treated as an independent event or 2022 if the conduct is considered to be part of a series of continuing wrongs or conspiracy | Source | |
| Campaign finance crimes and coverup | Causing Donald J. Trump for President LLCās failure to report Cohenās contribution (Clifford Story) | 2016 | Causing a campaign committee to fail to report an unlawful corporate contribution | 52 U.S.C. Ā§Ā§ 30104, 30109; 18 U.S.C. Ā§ 2 | Investigation closed while Trump was president | 2021 if the conduct is treated as an independent event or 2022 if the conduct is considered to be part of a series of continuing wrongs or conspiracy | Source | |
| Campaign finance crimes and coverup | Causing Cohen to make and/or accepting an unlawful individual contribution (Clifford Story) | 2016 | Causing (or accepting) an individual campaign contribution in excess of statutory limits | 52 U.S.C. Ā§Ā§ 30109, 30116, 30118; 18 U.S.C. Ā§ 2 | Investigation closed while Trump was president | 2021 if the conduct is treated as an independent event or 2022 if the conduct is considered to be part of a series of continuing wrongs or conspiracy | Source | |
| Campaign finance crimes and coverup | Causing American Media Inc. (AMI) to make and/or accepting (or causing his then lawyer Michael Cohen to accept) an unlawful corporate contribution related to Karen McDougal. | 2016 | Causing (or accepting) an unlawful corporate campaign contribution | 52 U.S.C. Ā§Ā§ 30109, 30118; 18 U.S.C. Ā§ 2 | Investigation closed while Trump was president | 2021 if the conduct is treated as an independent event or 2022 if the conduct is considered to be part of a series of continuing wrongs or conspiracy | Source | |
| Campaign finance crimes and coverup | Conspiring to defraud the United States by undermining the lawful function of the FEC and/or violating federal campaign finance laws | 2015 - 2017 | Conspiring to commit campaign finance offenses and/or defraud the enforcement of campaign finance laws | 18 U.S.C. Ā§ 371 | Investigation closed while Trump was president | 2022 | Source | |
| Campaign finance crimes and coverup | Causing Donald J. Trump for President LLC to file false reports with the FEC | 2016 - 2017 | Causing a campaign committee to fail to report an unlawful corporate contribution | 18 U.S.C. Ā§Ā§ 2, 1519 | Investigation closed while Trump was president | 2022 | Source | |
| Campaign finance crimes and coverup | Making a false statement by failing to disclose liability to Cohen for Clifford payment on 2017 public financial disclosure form | 2017 | Knowingly ommitting or failing to disclose a material fact | 18 U.S.C. Ā§ 1001 | Investigation closed while Trump was president | 2022 | Source | Source 2 |
| Campaign finance crimes and coverup | Failing to disclose a liability to Cohen for Clifford payment on 2017 public financial disclosure form | 2017 | Knowingly and willfully failing to report required information | 5 U.S.C. app. Ā§ 104(a)(1)-(2). | Investigation closed while Trump was president | 2022 | Source | Source 2 |
| Destruction of presidential records | Destruction of presidential records (during the period while Trump was President) | 2017 - 2021 | Willfull destruction of government property | 18 U.S.C. Ā§ 1361 | Uncertain. A grand jury has been investigating records act offenses committed after Trump left office, but it is unclear whether it will investigate potential offenses committed while he was still President | 2022 - 2026 (depending on when the documents were destroyed) | Source | Source 2 |
GOP sucks but:
Only ONE side is saying you can't have gas, borders, police, 1st amendment and so on (there's a word for all that)
Only ONE side is saying its ok to mutilate children without parents permission, private finances need to be spied on, experimental drugs have to be taken to keep jobs (already proven by courts but too late for victims), financial and political corruption in service to CCP is ok and so on.
Barbarians outside the gate are working with barbarians inside the gate (most people dont even realize China decalred a "people's war: against US in 2019).
All noise - no convictions etc - just a trail of false accustations and vindictive persecutions
The record is clear on that
IMO, virtually all congressional investigations are, and have been for decades, pure partisan crap. Not saying there isnāt potential wrongdoing. Just saying that the investigations into any wrongdoing have exhibited no signs of impartial truth seeking. Theyāre just trying to paint the opposition in a negative light for political advantage.
Until and unless there are arrests, indictments, and convictions, in a court of law with a judge, jury and all the rules of evidence, then itās all nothing more than a bunch of partisan BS. A cynical and deceptive exercise in taxpayer-funded political marketing.
And judging by polling numbers and electoral results over the years, most Americans agree.
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Agree. Although the time to end it was back when that post decided to go political.
I also recall a speech he stole from a Welsh politician as well in that timeframe.
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