5,123 days
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We could also have some fun with this. In actuality 5123 days (or 4740) is miniscule compared with:
Number of days children were abused by the Penn St. coaching staff
Number of days Notre Dame has been overrated in the preseason polls.
I'm sure you can think of a few.
No but he did have a Top 25 win in 2009, there were no top 25 opponents in 2010 and only WVU in 2011. So it wasn't 3 years. It was 1.
The drought started with him in 2009, 3 years in a row he faced a Top 25 team and lost every single time.
3 years? He had a top 25 win in 2009. Beat USF
They didn't play any in 2010.
Lost to WVU in 2011.
Again my point is you two are putting this all on him. Flood and Ash have ZERO top 25 wins. Yet you two are just blaming Schiano.
2009 WVU 24 Rutgers 21
2010 WVU 35 Rutgers 14
2011 WVU 41 Rutgers 31
That's 3 games in a row, 3 years in a row, against a ranked opponent that Schiano lost. The drought started with him.
WVU wasn't ranked 2010
2009 victory has a top 25 victory. So you can not say he didn't have a Top 25 win in 2009. He did.
Still just putting it all on Schiano. Amazing.
I said he lost 3 games in a row to a ranked team. According to ESPN West Virginia was ranked 24th in 2010 when we played them, the last game of the year. You can spin all you want. The drought started with him.
Lol 2009 to 2011 is 3 years in a row. But if it makes you feel good to argue that have at it.
I don't know that I should get involved but just to ease the back and forth. I think the misunderstanding stems from the inaccurate Wiki pages of GS. It doesn't show any ranked teams in 2010 on his head coach record schedule. In actuality WVU was ranked in 2010 at the time of the game. WVU was ranked all 3 years at the time of the game from 2009-2011. In 2009 GS beat a ranked USF and then lost later in the year to a ranked WVU.
Well to be fair, especially the "Top 5 teams", how many were ranked at the end of the year?
#2 USF was unranked.
That's why this 5,000 days is BS.
I'd rather know how long since we beat a team ranked at the end of the year - even if they weren't ranked when we beat them.
I would guess/hope it's less than 5000 days (have no idea though).
Are you ignoring the USF win in 2009? The post was about the last win. The last win was 2009. You keep including 2009 as an entire year just take another knock at Schiano. You are the one spinning it.
Another good point.
Have to consider opportunities.
I would imagine as a former "other" conference team - we had less opportunities.
He lost the last 3 games in a row against Top 25 opponents. You can spin all you want. That's the fact.
Beating a ranked team is always about the ranking at the time of the game. The flip side would be having to go back and adjust every teams opponents record if they made or dropped out of the rankings.
The fact is they have a win in 2009 so you can't count that as a year. That is the fact.
We tried to run spread, hurry-up offense against Michigan once. I won't say how that turned out.
All three WVU teams were bottom of top 25, still counts
This tired argument.
We tried to run slow, control the ball offense against Michigan too.
I will say how that turned out.
Wasn't the 52-0 loss to Michigan in 2019 what cost HC Ash and OC McNulty their jobs?
Really miss that offense.......
You're correct.
And it's a terrible dumb metric.
ND was ranked #5 when OSU beat them earlier this year.
They are now 5-3 and unranked.
Should that really count as a "Top 5" win?
Yes. Let's say Rutgers is playing a top 20 team. Rutgers wins and that team falls out of the top 25. Rutgers beats a top 20 team but gets no credit because they beat them and are the team that knocks them out.
And then lost to a ranked West Virginia later in 2009, and then in 2010 and 2011. That's three losses in a row, three years in a row to a ranked team. What part of that are people not understanding? His successors lost to every ranked team afterwards and he has continued to do the same.
Number of days Rutgers has been in the B1G before it's done paying back loans and finally gets a full share.
I love how anytime someone posts stats that are not conducive to the Schiano narrative they get pounced on and labeled trolls. I don't know the OP from Adam, but all he did was post something in the public domain, he didn't make it up or manipulate the data. It is kind of a useless stat, I agree, but what it does point out is the utter futility our fans have had to suffer thru over now 3 HCs. I think it is time some on this board stop bullying and verbally harassing their fellow Rutgers fans for not being supportive of the current regime, just being here, showing up to the games, and still caring is something all Rutgers football fans should be very proud of.
What don't you understand?? He was the last guy to beat a ranked team but you hate him and ignore that fact. The OP goes back to the last win, not a loss which you focus on because you hate him, but the last HC at Rutgers to win against a ranked team was Greg Schiano. How many did Flood and Ash win??
Last win was Nov. 12, 2009 against No. 24 South Florida. The Scarlet Knights are 0-20 against ranked opponents since that victory.
There's something about this expression that is way softer than your usual take on things. As much as I like the softer tone, the expression itself has me wanting to ram my head into a wall. Ya know, more or less.
You're going around and around in your desperation to defend your hero. I stated that the drought started with him. It did. Since you can't deny it you try to split hairs over what "3 years in a row means" and bring up earlier victories over ranked teams and childishly say "you hate him" as if you have any idea how I feel about a person I've never met. You're changing the focus so you can avoid the original point. Quit while you're behind.
Just running out of care on this whole Rutgers thing after 40ish years.
And people wonder why our crowd leaves so quickly and cannot sell out. There has been nothing remotely interesting to watch at home in 5-10 years.