Offensive Line Disappointment

RUJonny1

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Frankly, I only have seen marginal improvement from the OL. For all the talk about Tyler being recruited by Alabama and Direnzo moving up, they have been below average to average at best.
We better hope that all those freshmen OL are ready to go next year.
 
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RUJonny1

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Very early on The moderators indicated that the offensive line was not good
I had hoped they were wrong, or that it would come together quickly
Frankly, a complete turnover on the whole offensive staff would be welcome. Even Nunzio, even though I like him personally and appreciate his commitment to the program.
 

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Direnzo and Pierce have seemed solid, everyone has been shaky at best. Hopefully the freshmen develop well.
 

The RUT

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I think the OL is definitely better than it has been.

Does that mean it’s been good? No.

But there’s certainly more time for our QBs than there has been in the past.

it’s really easy to point to one offensive group, but it’s really an issue across the board.

Our QBs could be more accurate. Our WRs could create separation quicker to limit time needed. Our RBs could make a guy miss. Our play calling can help free guys up.

I don’t see some overnight change happening, but rather a slow build. We have a lot of OL that have redshirted, young QB, and return specialists as WRs. I think in 3 years from now the offense will be respectable and it will be a slow build to that point.
 

mdk02

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Frankly, I only have seen marginal improvement from the OL. For all the talk about Tyler being recruited by Alabama and Direnzo moving up, they have been below average to average at best.
We better hope that all those freshmen OL are ready to go next year.

Run blocking is more than marginally better but not great. Pass protection is still problematic.
 
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ScooterSports

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I think the OL is definitely better than it has been.

Does that mean it’s been good? No.

But there’s certainly more time for our QBs than there has been in the past.

it’s really easy to point to one offensive group, but it’s really an issue across the board.

Our QBs could be more accurate. Our WRs could create separation quicker to limit time needed. Our RBs could make a guy miss. Our play calling can help free guys up.

I don’t see some overnight change happening, but rather a slow build. We have a lot of OL that have redshirted, young QB, and return specialists as WRs. I think in 3 years from now the offense will be respectable and it will be a slow build to that point.
If it takes until Year 6 for the offense to be respectable, that’s a disaster.
 
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RU#1fan

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Hopefully Sutton returns from his injury and can be a force on the OL next season.
Also our #1 recruit from NJ last year OL Allen can step in and make a difference.
 

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If it takes until Year 6 for the offense to be respectable, that’s a disaster.
Is it?

We know Schiano specializes in defense, which is certainly significantly improved.

He is leaning on people other than himself to get the job done on the offensive end.

Gleeson apparently didn’t work out so now it’s a new playbook. The good thing is it’s early in Gavin’s career to make this move.

Unless he hires a guy like Rich Rod or another known commodity, I think expecting anything other than a slow steady build is unrealistic.
 
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knightfan7

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Hopefully Sutton returns from his injury and can be a force on the OL next season.
Also our #1 recruit from NJ last year OL Allen can step in and make a difference.
How much can you depend on a guy who's missed 2 years and any RSFR? I wouldn't be surprised to see the OL who have another year back in the same spot.
 
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The same spinsters on here spewing blind cultish rants suggesting Rutgers is somehow primed and ready to turn the corner from years of abject failure - with absolutely no significant evidence of such. An objective analysis clearly shows the real, substantive evidence lies squarely on the contrapositive side.
 
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RUBOB72

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With your 12th post you focus on the object which most impacted our offense for the past several years? For the most part it is their first year together and yes we’ll see when the new guys RS start playing in 2023.
 

Kbee3

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Frankly, I only have seen marginal improvement from the OL. For all the talk about Tyler being recruited by Alabama and Direnzo moving up, they have been below average to average at best.
We better hope that all those freshmen OL are ready to go next year.
I would expect at least Asamoah and Allen to be in the mix next Fall.
 

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Sam posts often and they all suck. Only other negative losers like his posts or agree with him yet that seems to be enough to incite him to continue his poor posts. You suck Sam. No spin no cult just my view of you as a fan.
Cool. Yeah I feel the same about your ilk, who offer nothing but trite assertions and baseless narratives to keep Rutgers stuck in anonymity.

My posts likely incite you and your type because you're just either not comfortable or capable enough to entertain reality as it stands.

And then you love to throw in juvenile personal insults which, to me, depicts someone who lacks the capacity of deep analysis or objective thought about this football program. That just makes the rest of us believe your diatribes even less.
 
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Agree with the post that it’s not just the OL. In fact I’d say QB and WR are a bigger problem.

But why should it take 6 years??? It’s year 3. Is having at least a MAC level offense too much to ask at this point. The offense isn’t just bad, it’s horrific. Embarrassing. This is unacceptable in year 3
Is it really a true year 3? Baseless in the fact of when Schiano began his 2nd stint… what occurred between 2019- 2021 not only recruiting, players program evaluations and covid 19 stop and go . We sadly lacked any real depth and semblance of team in the B1G conference. At minimum it was a 5 year rebuild and realistically we had issues on both lines. WR, TE and yes even at QB. I like Vedral in the sense he is a fighter but he was not the answer nor was Sitkowski. Gavin Wimsatt has a chance and now is the time to throw him out there to do it for real. If we had a QB healthy ( even Noah) Iowa and Nebraska may have given us 6 wins already.in year 4. Some just want to stir the negativism . Schiano has for the entire 2022 season said exactly what and where his team is in this rebuild. I’ve been around this program longer than most , witnessed both good and not so good. Absolute success and failures. For those who don’t like Schiano he doesn’t care . For those who say,” we should have gotten so and so” . You didn’t open up your wallets wide enough. 5 year rebuild and he deserves that opportunity to either succeed or fail.
 
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ashokan

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RU = Chad Pennington Jets and cant throw long
Defenses get to play up close, blitz more etc
The OL isn't 2006 (good) or 2010 (awful)
RU has ony 13 sacks allowed in 8 games - tied for 38 along with Tennessee and others
Ohio St had only one sack
RU rushing is right in middle of 130 teams
One thing I noticed is that OL was more athletic blocking in open field and that 's a good sign
Lots of teams rotate their OL to keep them fresher but I'm not sure how much RU gets to do that
 

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Just for the record . I like and respect Schiano and what he is trying to accomplish in a state which for the most part doesn’t give two craps about Rutgers University including its standing as an academic institution. Only because of sone sports teams here have we been able to make some noise. Better hope Schiano succeeds or it will be another 4-5 years from now if at all.
 

RUBOB72

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RU = Chad Pennington Jets and cant throw long
Defenses get to play up close, blitz more etc
The OL isn't 2006 (good) or 2010 (awful)
RU has ony 13 sacks allowed in 8 games - tied for 38 along with Tennessee and others
Ohio St had only one sack
RU rushing is right in middle of 130 teams
One thing I noticed is that OL was more athletic blocking in open field and that 's a good sign
Lots of teams rotate their OL to keep them fresher but I'm not sure how much RU gets to do that
Yes they are … they are now getting blocks downfield which is one solid improvement .
 

RUBOB72

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RU = Chad Pennington Jets and cant throw long
Defenses get to play up close, blitz more etc
The OL isn't 2006 (good) or 2010 (awful)
RU has ony 13 sacks allowed in 8 games - tied for 38 along with Tennessee and others
Ohio St had only one sack
RU rushing is right in middle of 130 teams
One thing I noticed is that OL was more athletic blocking in open field and that 's a good sign
Lots of teams rotate their OL to keep them fresher but I'm not sure how much RU gets to do that
More than you realize . They have been rotating players on the Oline. One thing is Pierce and Brown and sorry DiRenzo have been solid most times . Dunlap has played well .Tyler has the size but needs to take the next step. Pass blocking is still for me an issue but that can be from QB , WR RB issues as well.
 

RU#1fan

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How much can you depend on a guy who's missed 2 years and any RSFR? I wouldn't be surprised to see the OL who have another year back in the same spot.
well based on what we are seeing right now on the field this might be our only glimmer of hope for next season outside the Transfer Portal.
 
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Is it really a true year 3? Baseless in the fact of when Schiano began his 2nd stint… what occurred between 2019- 2021 not only recruiting, players program evaluations and covid 19 stop and go . We sadly lacked any real depth and semblance of team in the B1G conference. At minimum it was a 5 year rebuild and realistically we had issues on both lines. WR, TE and yes even at QB. I like Vedral in the sense he is a fighter but he was not the answer nor was Sitkowski. Gavin Wimsatt has a chance and now is the time to throw him out there to do it for real. If we had a QB healthy ( even Noah) Iowa and Nebraska may have given us 6 wins already.in year 4. Some just want to stir the negativism . Schiano has for the entire 2022 season said exactly what and where his team is in this rebuild. I’ve been around this program longer than most , witnessed both good and not so good. Absolute success and failures. For those who don’t like Schiano he doesn’t care . For those who say,” we should have gotten so and so” . You didn’t open up your wallets wide enough. 5 year rebuild and he deserves that opportunity to either succeed or fail.
I don’t disagree friend, but they can’t even reliably complete a forward pass. None of us were expecting miracles, but the results on the field are unbelievably bad.
 
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Cool. Yeah I feel the same about your ilk, who offer nothing but trite assertions and baseless narratives to keep Rutgers stuck in anonymity.

My posts likely incite you and your type because you're just either not comfortable or capable enough to entertain reality as it stands.

And then you love to throw in juvenile personal insults which, to me, depicts someone who lacks the capacity of deep analysis or objective thought about this football program. That just makes the rest of us believe your diatribes even less.
Glad to see you avoid personal insults
 

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Glad to see you avoid personal insults
Only in response to those levied towards me. And mine usually focus on Rutgers-specific fallacies and shortcomings, as opposed to just general attacks on one's character. Get the difference?
 

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What did I post… we had No QB at all including Sitkowski and Vedral who could be a difference maker. No O line … WR … TE … no depth and you are blaming Schiano for the ineptness of Flood’s last several recruiting classes and the Ash debacle. 5 year rebuild and even Schiano has surpassed expectations contrary to some. It takes winning to keep more Nj top recruits home.
 

RutgersSam

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What did I post… we had No QB at all including Sitkowski and Vedral who could be a difference maker. No O line … WR … TE … no depth and you are blaming Schiano for the ineptness of Flood’s last several recruiting classes and the Ash debacle. 5 year rebuild and even Schiano has surpassed expectations contrary to some. It takes winning to keep more Nj top recruits home.
Ok. But in this age of quick takent turnarounds via the transfer portal, why hasn't Schiano been able to address the most important position on the team yet? What does that say about his abilities to assess our QB talent? Why did he go into this season thinking Gleason was a capable offensive coordinator?

And you think a 37 point loss to an absolutely average Minnesota team is a good place to be in year 3 for a coach you think is somehow special?
 
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czxqa

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Look at all those big words he uses. He must be edumacated. Still a dick, but an edumacated dick.
 

RUBOB72

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Ok. But in this age of quick takent turnarounds via the transfer portal, why hasn't Schiano been able to address the most important position on the team yet? What does that say about his abilities to assess our QB talent? Why did he go into this season thinking Gleason was a capable offensive coordinator?
He just turned the D line into a very good one even up until last week. Tell me how many of these players are back for 2/3 more years. He is finally turning the O line into a strength in the future through portal and recruiting . Just this past year. Forget year one is not countable for Rutgers and many other teams. Plenty of those teams have been established for years in the conference. Now you are just babbling… when you mention why did he think Gleason would be the guy this season. He was attempting to give backing and support to this young coach . You are like many of the clowns who hang on sports boards to denigrate and criticize just for the sake of.
 

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people love when they put you and similar on ignore… best thing they ever created.
 
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people love when they put you and similar on ignore… best thing they ever created.
Yeah I'll miss you too. Good luck in your vacuum and having cognitive dissonance about Schiano well into 2027. You didn't even last long enough to respond to my recent questions about Schiano, maybe because you have no real answers to them.