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You do realize it wasn't a designed fake punt right? Schiano also went heavy to try to block the punt and it backfired.

This one play epitomizes Schiano's lack of awareness and football intelligence. He's simply a less than mediocre coach.
Giving this argument the benefit of the doubt BUT If this were a tight game against Michigan, do you really think the coach would freely allow the punter to make that call on his own and just say it's a "football play"?
 

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I would say Penn State should play more disciplined and not crash inside leaving a open lane for the punter. It not their responsibility to quit playing.
No, if a RU fan came on your board after a loss you would tell them to F off. So F off and worry about your locker room. Thx in advance.
 

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We really have fans arguing that a late hit out of bounds was the right thing to do on a fake punt play that had no effect on the final outcome? If you don't want to see it happen field a better team.
 
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Proof he was trying to turn away. Thanks for verifying
 
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Yeah because violence and anger whenever you feel slighted is exactly what we should be teaching our youth.
Your an embarrassment. Every word you spew is negative crap against RU.

The hit was not an attempt to injure. He was in the same spot when the guy went out of bounds and turned away. The punter ran into him and he braced himself.

Not sure how Jersey Strong is a call for violence.
 

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Your an embarrassment. Every word you spew is negative crap against RU.

The hit was not an attempt to injure. He was in the same spot when the guy went out of bounds and turned away. The punter ran into him and he braced himself.

Not sure how Jersey Strong is a call for violence.
Right. You get triggered so easily. Take a breath.. you'll live longer. If you were a real fan, you'd understand blindly supporting mediocrity and an overrated, incompetent coach is the worst thing you can do.
 

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Right. You get triggered so easily. Take a breath.. you'll live longer. If you were a real fan, you'd understand blindly supporting mediocrity and an overrated, incompetent coach is the worst thing you can do.
It's about supporting your school...yes I wish we were better.

So go away...go root for PSU and OSU as you seem to support them more.

It appears you agree you spew crap. If that is how you spend your life....you must be miserable.
 
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I think this is correct
Not a called fake punt, the punter reacted
Imo

anyone who thinks otherwise would be guessing, just like I am guessing

No need to take an angry stance against the punter in particular about this, we won’t find out otherwise
Nobody actually blaming the punter whose team was up 39 points We’re just calling it for what it was. Can you guess what that word is? I think douchebag move is an appropriate name for him. Remember I’m not blaming their staff or most of those players … just this guy.
 

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We really have fans arguing that a late hit out of bounds was the right thing to do on a fake punt play that had no effect on the final outcome? If you don't want to see it happen field a better team.
And it was … it was totally uncalled for. Maybe you can recruit some of them for your side?
 

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Yeah because violence and anger whenever you feel slighted is exactly what we should be teaching our youth.
Why …it seems some are ok with teaching more harmful and evil things in grammar school. But that’s okie dokie artachokie.
 

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Yes… contrary to your opinion that really was not a LATE hit… watch how Cruickshank turns his body at the last moment. You think it was uncalled for … most have concluded the punter Mirco was wrong for running it. So he was fair game. You claim to be a Rutgers fan? That is very questionable by your posting on the coaches, the staff and even players… remember “ get better players” quote … Let’s chalk it up to Cruickshank not realizing the runner was almost out of bounds.
 

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Yes… contrary to your opinion that really was not a LATE hit… watch how Cruickshank turns his body at the last moment. You think it was uncalled for … most have concluded the punter Mirco was wrong for running it. So he was fair game. You claim to be a Rutgers fan? That is very questionable by your posting on the coaches, the staff and even players… remember “ get better players” quote … Let’s chalk it up to Cruickshank not realizing the runner was almost out of bounds.
Hitting him, crushing him is fair game. Blasting a guy out of bounds is never fair. Period.
 

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As a third party observer here’s my take. No matter what the score RU had a right to attempt a punt block. The game is 60 minutes. As for the punter, he saw five miles of open field in front of him with nary an obstruction in sight. I guess if you’re going to try and block a punt in that situation i think he has the right to run. It’s not an every game occurrence.

He was hit out of bounds, although not violently, and a penalty was proper according to the rules. The ejection however was ridiculous. Regarding the dust up between Schiano and Day, I’ve seen better more heated arguments at little league games. I’m sure the coaches and players have moved on to preparing for Nebraska, and those are the only parties that matter.
 

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As a third party observer here’s my take. No matter what the score RU had a right to attempt a punt block. The game is 60 minutes. As for the punter, he saw five miles of open field in front of him with nary an obstruction in sight. I guess if you’re going to try and block a punt in that situation i think he has the right to run. It’s not an every game occurrence.

He was hit out of bounds, although not violently, and a penalty was proper according to the rules. The ejection however was ridiculous. Regarding the dust up between Schiano and Day, I’ve seen better more heated arguments at little league games. I’m sure the coaches and players have moved on to preparing for Nebraska, and those are the only parties that matter.
All sports players turn the page immediately. Rutgers coaches and players will be 100% focused on the next game. Meanwhile our delusional, thin skinned fans will complain about their imaginary disrespect of Rutgers for years. Take away the positives (defense) learn from the negative (bad play calls) and move on.
 
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As I understand it, the punter is an Aussie, and I'm guessing a rugby player or maybe Aussie rules. If so, in rugby union, down here, you don't really care what the score is, you play to score every chance you get. It's just the way it's done. The All Blacks can be up by 50 points and they will still try to score the last try. It's really dumb, as guys can get hurt, but perhaps the punter was doing what he's done historically -- try to score/keep pushing.
 

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Watch the replay more closely - he was there to separate the players and Day was yelling at an RU player and Greg then started yelling. Also, it's quite possible one of the guys on the end missed an assignment to contain - I have zero issue going with a block call. And even if Greg was yelling about the fake punt, there's no way in real time from ground level way across the field that he could have known it wasn't a called fake - that was only clear from replay at a higher angle, which he hadn't seen yet.
The spread was 39.5 …. OSU only up by 39 … at first I thought it was a Paterno move to try and cover the point spread for all the OSU boosters who bet on the game.
 

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As a third party observer here’s my take. No matter what the score RU had a right to attempt a punt block. The game is 60 minutes. As for the punter, he saw five miles of open field in front of him with nary an obstruction in sight. I guess if you’re going to try and block a punt in that situation i think he has the right to run. It’s not an every game occurrence.

He was hit out of bounds, although not violently, and a penalty was proper according to the rules. The ejection however was ridiculous. Regarding the dust up between Schiano and Day, I’ve seen better more heated arguments at little league games. I’m sure the coaches and players have moved on to preparing for Nebraska, and those are the only parties that matter.
So you're saying what many are saying - there's two sides to every story and I agree.

The only part I disagreed with is that many on this board - and others - were claiming that it was a planned-designed fake punt by Day which was ludicrous. In fact, Day said after the game he was going to have a talk with his punter on Sunday. Just a college kid that got caught up in the moment

And even funnier, Day and Schiano are good friends as Schiano was the DC under Urban Meyer at OSU during the same time Day was the OC there. Both said everything was good afterwards and that the sparks flew when both were trying to protect their players. Much ado about nothing
 

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Meanwhile our delusional, thin skinned fans will complain about their imaginary disrespect of Rutgers for years.
It feels like misplaced anger to me, with the punter and Ohio State being the target. We beat Wagner 66 to 7, with a TD scored with 4 minutes to go in the game. How was that better than the OSU punter running for it?
 
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It feels like misplaced anger to me, with the punter and Ohio State being the target. We beat Wagner 66 to 7, with a TD scored with 4 minutes to go in the game. How was that better than the OSU punter running for it?
If the opposite occurs where Kosark beats an overload rush with a big lead this board, including myself would love it. However if the same thing happened to Korsak out of bounds these babies would call it assault and want the player arrested.
 

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If the opposite occurs where Kosark beats an overload rush with a big lead this board, including myself would love it. However if the same thing happened to Korsak out of bounds these babies would call it assault and want the player arrested.
The whole sport is grossly unfair and elitist. P5 programs play 1AA programs that have no chance, always at home, and show them no mercy. 1A programs try to get one up on each other. Teams with generous donors use every penny to win games. Conferences are trying to screw each other. A punter going for it in a blowout is hardly the worst that goes on.
 

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As I understand it, the punter is an Aussie, and I'm guessing a rugby player or maybe Aussie rules. If so, in rugby union, down here, you don't really care what the score is, you play to score every chance you get. It's just the way it's done. The All Blacks can be up by 50 points and they will still try to score the last try. It's really dumb, as guys can get hurt, but perhaps the punter was doing what he's done historically -- try to score/keep pushing.
Total nonsense from you on the Aussie and excusing it as something they do. Stick to what you claim to know. It was not a thing most teams would do. People who actually understand what is acceptable at the end of a 39 point blowout are not going to be forgetting anytime soon.
 

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Total nonsense from you on the Aussie and excusing it as something they do. Stick to what you claim to know. It was not a thing most teams would do. People who actually understand what is acceptable at the end of a 39 point blowout are not going to be forgetting anytime soon.
Have your mom change your diaper crybaby. So embarrassing from Rutgers fans.
 
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brgRC90

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Total nonsense from you on the Aussie and excusing it as something they do. Stick to what you claim to know. It was not a thing most teams would do. People who actually understand what is acceptable at the end of a 39 point blowout are not going to be forgetting anytime soon.
FYI: 39 points is really not that bad of a blowout in college football. We see 56 and 70.
 

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Total nonsense from you on the Aussie and excusing it as something they do. Stick to what you claim to know. It was not a thing most teams would do. People who actually understand what is acceptable at the end of a 39 point blowout are not going to be forgetting anytime soon.
Read twice, post once.

Having played football (against RU) back in the day, and having watched rugby union pretty religiously for 17 years, I know both pretty well. The kid clearly should have punted the ball, but he may have been thinking that he could get the first down and comes from an athletic tradition where you don't let up even if way ahead.

Really no need to get your panties in a bunch over this.
 

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FYI: 39 points is really not that bad of a blowout in college football. We see 56 and 70.
Your still wrong… it was a dumb thing for this player and Schiano was right to protect his player and team.
 

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Read twice, post once.

Having played football (against RU) back in the day, and having watched rugby union pretty religiously for 17 years, I know both pretty well. The kid clearly should have punted the ball, but he may have been thinking that he could get the first down and comes from an athletic tradition where you don't let up even if way ahead.

Really no need to get your panties in a bunch over this.
I’m going to be respectful here. The only one who wears panties is you under your kilt . If you don’t agree with the vast majority on this incident that’s your issue. I could care less if you played football against Rutgers ( back in the 70’s) . It doesn’t validate your credentials . What Cruickshank did was what this program needed . Someone who is not an apologist. By saying he should have punted the ball is exactly what could have and should have occurred. Laying that playing to the final whistle can be interrupted in many ways. Just to ease your mind though I haven’t played in years ( football) I learned early on never to rub the opponents face in the dirt when the outcome was decided. But that’s just me and most of sports followers.
 

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FYI: 39 points is really not that bad of a blowout in college football. We see 56 and 70.
Your still wrong… it was a dumb thing for this player and Schiano was right to protect his player and team.
 

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I’m going to be respectful here. The only one who wears panties is you under your kilt . If you don’t agree with the vast majority on this incident that’s your issue. I could care less if you played football against Rutgers ( back in the 70’s) . It doesn’t validate your credentials . What Cruickshank did was what this program needed . Someone who is not an apologist. By saying he should have punted the ball is exactly what could have and should have occurred. Laying that playing to the final whistle can be interrupted in many ways. Just to ease your mind though I haven’t played in years ( football) I learned early on never to rub the opponents face in the dirt when the outcome was decided. But that’s just me and most of sports followers.
Bob, you seem to be safety-wired in the p***ed off position. If you had actually read my post, you would know that I wasn't approving of what happened. I said that running up the score was "...really dumb...." What I then said was that running up the score is common practice in rugby in Australasia (and most other places), and that perhaps the punter was simply doing what his athletic tradition was. If so, I'm sure Day has set him straight on that.

A former rugby ref down here explained the practice to me by saying, "If you lay off your opponent, that is what is considered disrespectful -- that the other team is not worth your full effort." It's a point of view, but the injury factor alone would seem to me to outweigh that.

And btw, when you write, "Stick to what you claim to know," you have left respectful in the dust.
 

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You are a pompous , snooty ,academic who always attempts to use the platform to make it appear it’s the other guy who is at fault or triggered. I know exactly what you wrote and said about the play. Here’s the issue… this wasn’t about the Aussie ( kid ha ha) playing to the end whistle not that he may be following prior instructions from training. And as for injury possibilities that was the least of Cruickshank ‘s worries. And by Mirco running he was even more vulnerable. Lastly I never said you approved or disapproved. Your retort of “ don’t get my panties in bunch “ was disrespectful and uncalled for. You seem to forget … that was something you should not have said . I maintain … stick to sheep herding , walking in the shire and still trying to justify this play yesterday. First time in a long time a Rutgers player showed some hutzpah.
 

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You misread my post and tried to be cute, and you got caught out. If you don't want to be taken to the woodshed, make sure of your reading comprehension before you engage in ad hominem attacks.

The rest of your posts are pretty much blather.
 

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You misread my post and tried to be cute, and you got caught out. If you don't want to be taken to the woodshed, make sure of your reading comprehension before you engage in ad hominem attacks.

The rest of your posts are pretty much blather.
I maintain your a pompous ***… it is the same all the time with you … got caught ??? I gave my opinion long before you put your two cents worth into the thread. My comprehension isn’t the question here it’s your inability to realize others who watched the game and know the sport ( and remember I’m older than you) were taught about not rubbing someone face in the mud. This was not someone playing to whistles end . As for my blather I’ll gladly accept being called that over being an egotistical , arrogant, snooty , superior, patronizing , kiwi. I should have put you on ignore back when the politics threads ran rampant but I find you amusing to say the least.
 

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Yep. Caught out.

You came on this thread attacking RutgersSam for having the audacity to express a point of view. And then you attacked me because I suggested that perhaps the OSU punter was following an Aussie sports mentality, which I labelled as being "really dumb." You don't seem to be able to understand that. I don't think the OSU punter did the right thing, and I never suggested that he did. I said that his mindset may have been one of "always try to score" because he was brought up that way and in his context maybe isn't insulting. But I also called it "really dumb."

Name calling? I'll leave that to you. That and anger seem to be about all you have to contribute.

And the OSU punter appears to be an old Aussie rules player. They run up the score all the time.
 
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Yep. Caught out.

You came on this thread attacking RutgersSam for having the audacity to express a point of view. And then you attacked me because I suggested that perhaps the OSU punter was following an Aussie sports mentality, which I labelled as being "really dumb." You don't seem to be able to understand that. I don't think the OSU punter did the right thing, and I never suggested that he did. I said that his mindset may have been one of "always try to score" because he was brought up that way and in his context maybe isn't insulting. But I also called it "really dumb."

Name calling? I'll leave that to you. That and anger seem to be about all you have to contribute.
Nothing of value coming out of that one.
 
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Yep. Caught out.

You came on this thread attacking RutgersSam for having the audacity to express a point of view. And then you attacked me because I suggested that perhaps the OSU punter was following an Aussie sports mentality, which I labelled as being "really dumb." You don't seem to be able to understand that. I don't think the OSU punter did the right thing, and I never suggested that he did. I said that his mindset may have been one of "always try to score" because he was brought up that way and in his context maybe isn't insulting. But I also called it "really dumb."

Name calling? I'll leave that to you. That and anger seem to be about all you have to contribute.
Don’t even bother. Bob is on one of his rolls. No sense can be made from it.
 
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Nothing of value coming out of that one.

Don’t even bother. Bob is on one of his rolls. No sense can be made from it.
Thanks, guys. Yeah, I should let it go. It's a funny thing about letting up in a game down here. The All Blacks beat the USA in rugby 104-14 and nobody was upset about running up the score (down here). The ethic is "we play hard for 80 minutes, come what may." Of course, in rugby union (the main kind of rugby), you only have 23 players on the team, and 15 of them are on the field, so it isn't like you could put in third stringers.