Rutgers checking in on Elijah Gertrude
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I know we missed out on Gus Yalden but the game I saw of City Rocks Gertrude was the best player
I'm sold on Elijah Gertrude. Defensive stopper with long arms. Good quickness and aggression. Now his offensive game is coming around. He uses good explosion and changes in speed. Drives hard yet under control.
Seems like a great fit for the program.
He said he loved Rutgers 3 times in a recent NJ.com article
Could definitely see Gertrude end up at RU
Seems like a great fit for the program.
He said he loved Rutgers 3 times in a recent NJ.com article
Could definitely see Gertrude end up at RU
I like St.John’s. My brother went there. That said, we have to be considered a bigger offer right now. I’m not saying we can touch their history, we can’t. But now, we have some mojo.
Rutgers offer > St. John's offer
Each season, St John’s’ history gets further and further in the rear view mirror. Just a speck, now.
St. John's plays that high tempo guard friendly offense. Style of play may be important to him as indicated in an interview he had.
Montez probably thought style of play would fit him better too…doesn’t seem to have worked out any better.
Really? Did Montez commit to St. John's 4 years ago?
This post is perfect. You know why? It's a pre-emptive strike against the posters here that will respond by lecturing you and us about their superior hoops history. Great history, no one will deny that at all. But it's just that right now - history. I mean, geez, we now have the WFAN connection in their own city and the Jerry Recco connection has been a net positive before that. All that said, I really like this player. Getting an in with Hudson Catholic wouldn't be bad either.
Lol what? He was getting passed by at Rutgers so he downgraded to a lesser team in a lesser conference hoping for more playing time. If anything the Mathis situation only strengthens the RU > SJU point.
Older people here need to realize that players these days weren't even alive the last time SJU was relevant. It's not a brand name anymore
St John’s was a good place for Montez to land once he realized he wasn’t getting the playing time he wanted here.
Lesser team? In the 2021-2022 year end Sagarin’s, they finished at #45. We were #63.
You’re trying too hard and not doing a very good job at it.
They didn't make the tournament in a worse conference finishing under .500
They have made the tournament twice in the last decade. We are 3 for our last 3.
Wake up. SJU is a worse basketball program than Rutgers. It's not 1985
We have a proud but inflated view of our program. We are in a great multi-sport league, but we have not put a lot of separation between our basketball program and St. John’s.
You said SJU was better now apparently saying Rutgers is better but slightly.
Progress. At least you're coming around to the new reality.
No one ever said the gap was a mile. Gotta shift those goalposts though to try to feel a little right still somehow though. Classic board maneuver
Three years of solid basketball for Rutgers does not undo everything.
Not talking about ancient history. Rutgers is CURRENTLY a better basketball program and has been over the last few years now.
It's not a hard concept. No one is saying historically Rutgers has been the better program. That's a completely different topic.
Stop trying so hard to move the goalposts.
Why are you bending over backwards trying to support SJU over Rutgers take anyway? It's odd
I’ve been a Rutgers football and basketball season ticket holder for 30+ years. It’s amusing to see Rutgers fans take swipes at opponents who’ve had real sustained success. That includes St. John’s. Yes, the tide is turning. But let’s have real sustained success (10 years) before making comments about being better than St. John’s, especially when there are 2021-2022 season end rankings like Sagarin and NCAA Net that have St. John’s ranked better than us.
If you wait 10 years to realize something has happened you'll always be embarrassingly behind the times
Lol! If you can’t recognize the fundamental shift that has been happening since Pike came to the Banks, then just continue to wallow in the past. With Pike leading us, Rutgers’ best basketball is ahead of us.
You guys need to get out more. St. John’s has a storied basketball history. They even have rivals!
Most fans don't know or care what St. John's did Mullins in the 80s. As far as they are concerned, St. John's is a lousy program now. History is only meaningful when it helps your agenda.
You don't understand the mentality of kids. It's not like SJU has a bunch of national championship banners. They've been to 2 Final Fours ever. They aren't basketball royalty. Ancient history for them.
Again you can't seem to understand the concept of separating the history and current states of the program. You think any of these recruits care that SJU went to the final 4 in the 80s?
He refuses to accept reality. Some people hold too hard to yesteryear while believing it still matters in today's world.You don't understand the mentality of kids. It's not like SJU has a bunch of national championship banners. They've been to 2 Final Fours ever. They aren't basketball royalty. Ancient history for them.
Again you can't seem to understand the concept of separating the history and current states of the program. You think any of these recruits care that SJU went to the final 4 in the 80s?
St John's last NCAA tournament win was as a #2 seed in 2000 against Northern Arizona. They then lost to #10 seed Gonzaga in the 2nd round.
They are 0-3 in the lifetime of any high school recruit, losing in 2011, 2015, and 2019.
Why would their history before that matter AT ALL today to a high school kid with no family St John's connection?
They are 0-3 in the lifetime of any high school recruit, losing in 2011, 2015, and 2019.
Why would their history before that matter AT ALL today to a high school kid with no family St John's connection?
Exactly, it doesn't. Their final 4 in the 80s is just as relevant as ours in the 70s. i.e. no one cares
Not only the current high schoolers, but some of these kids PARENTS weren't even alive the last time SJU went to the final 4.
Maybe if you're from NYC there might be more allure to the program still? Playing in MSG is cool but you can do that at Rutgers too
Did you ever hear of Syracuse football? Similar history and their program is just as irrelevant today.
I grew up with this and a bunch of other SI covers on my bedroom wall.
It was a looooooong time ago.
Many Big East fans don't understand (and don't care) how much has changed.
The best BE team this season is in Omaha, Nebraska.
The BE was amazing, now it's a step down from the P5 conferences.
NIL will widen the gap every year.
It was a looooooong time ago.
Many Big East fans don't understand (and don't care) how much has changed.
The best BE team this season is in Omaha, Nebraska.
The BE was amazing, now it's a step down from the P5 conferences.
NIL will widen the gap every year.
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