Caleb McConnell Draft Status

Joey Bacala

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Wonder if we should read anything into the Lofton recruitment? Either as a hint as to whether the staff expects Caleb back or whether it may impact a decision by Caleb on whether to transfer or play pro overseas. Obviously I want Caleb back and Lofton but we’re already adding Simpson and the Loyola kid in the backcourt.
No, they're very different players.
 

Scangg

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This is a workable 9-man rotation. I don't love the Hyatt/Mag combo at the 4. There's potential but not much in the way of proven results. But I think we could be NIT-ish with this group with the upside of a tournament team. Considering we're losing two giant pieces of our core in Harper and Baker, that's about the best we can hope for.

Lofton
Simpson
McConnell
Spencer
Mulcahy
Hyatt
Mag
Omoruyi
Reiber
If Caleb comes back and we land Lofton to go along with Spencer, we should be a tournament team for the 4th year in a row
 

RU848789

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Work his *** off in the off-season to become more offensive like in the ND game which WOULD make him more marketable for the league or G league.
Exactly. He can do more for his career by showing serious offensive skills (assuming he can do it) for a full year at RU, especially now that we really need it with Geo and Harper (nearly 100%) gone. That and one or two things I've heard from connected people are why I've strongly felt he was staying all along. We'll see of course.
 

MADHAT1

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That's because he's an activist, not because he's on the Rutgers basketball team. If Caleb wants that money, he needs to be on TV proactively harming the NCAA.
Harming the NCAA?
They've done a great job doing that to themselves on the issue of paying players for use of the players name and image.
This NIL problem can be traced back to 2009 and since 2014 the NCAA just ignored the situation.
GAEO only made sure he and other players weren't screwed out of their money that Ed O'Bannon in 2009 started fighting for and won that fight in 2014.
Geo's was a college athlete that actively fought to receive what the courts said ( in 2014) he was to receive if his name/image was to be used

Caleb won't be harming the NCAA if he demands his just due, but would be harming other college players rights given them by the courts if he fails to fight for what he has comming to him if someone uses his name/image without offering compensation for that use
 

OldManRiver1

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College basketball is awesome. They play on espn, in front of packed arenas. He can wait a year before he goes overseas and plays in front of 3 people in turkey for 65k a year.
I really wouldn't open your mouth and confirm your ignorance.

 

chrebet80

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The NCAA has done a pretty effective job proactively harming itself. NCAA administrators like Mark Emmert certainly showed that harming the NCAA was very lucrative.
So you think Caleb is getting a max salary in Europe? Bless your ignorant heart 😂
 

chrebet80

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don't have to be the max , just great money worth turning pro to play. overseas.
I didn’t make up that salary. That’s what Corey sanders is supposedly making. You still have to be awesome to make the big bucks in Europe.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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I didn’t make up that salary. That’s what Corey sanders is supposedly making. You still have to be awesome to make the big bucks in Europe.
Exactly - the number of kids one year removed from college who make 6 figures in their first year playing in Europe is very low. How many of them didn’t average double figures in points? I love Caleb, but European style ball focuses on scoring. He’s not making that much going over there right now.
 

MLBash93

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I really wouldn't open your mouth and confirm your ignorance.

This graph kind of proves the point of what other people were saying. Caleb likely does not get drafted. If he goes to Europe, maybe he plays on a first division team, but I can't say that with 100% certainty. And all the "lower tear salaries" look to be around 200k or less.

I think he won't be stuck playing in like Azerbaijan or Estonia.
 

MADHAT1

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I wonder if Caleb will be judging playing overseas and the salary + benefits pro team would give he'd probably be getting , against returning to RU with a NIL deal in hand.
The way it is now in college ball, NIL deals are weighed against probably pro earnings ( overseas or G-League) if not drafted by an NBA team.
 

chrebet80

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Off topic but is Geo giving up on a professional basketball career? Haven’t heard anything about him doing workouts for teams or anything. Seems like he’s gonna dive head first into his businesses.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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This graph kind of proves the point of what other people were saying. Caleb likely does not get drafted. If he goes to Europe, maybe he plays on a first division team, but I can't say that with 100% certainty. And all the "lower tear salaries" look to be around 200k or less.

I think he won't be stuck playing in like Azerbaijan or Estonia.
These are averages - there’s no median data presented. So it’s difficult to tell from the chart what percentage of players in the lowest tiers (which obviously will be most college players who go to Europe simply because there are more lower tier divisions) make 100k+, 200k+, etc. A few stars in the lower tier leagues may be skewing that data.

The other factor to consider for a kid in Caleb’s position is the prospect of a better contract a year from now (abroad) if he puts up more offense next year in college for RU. He’d be more marketable coming into a European league at 11 ppg than he is now. Offense is valued at a premium there. He could obviously prove his worth directly in a European league but going in - that can be a wildcard. You don’t know what situation your walking in to - what schemes they run, etc.
 

mildone_rivals

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Lol. Unless it's a STEM or MBA, most graduate degrees are useless.
Define "useless" as you're using it here. Law and medical graduate degrees, which are neither STEM nor an MBA, are useless? What about people who wish to become college professors in liberal arts subjects? A PhD is useless to them? Or people who wish to become psychologists?

I'm not sure ANY level of education can be accurately labeled as useless unless one is using a very narrowly defined meaning for useful. Learning can always be useful.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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Define "useless" as you're using it here. Law and medical graduate degrees, which are neither STEM nor an MBA, are useless? What about people who wish to become college professors in liberal arts subjects? A PhD is useless to them? Or people who wish to become psychologists?

I'm not sure ANY level of education can be accurately labeled as useless unless one is using a very narrowly defined meaning for useful. Learning can always be useful.
Having an advanced degree on your resume could be helpful down the road if you go into coaching, sports training, teaching for a school. These are common career paths for varsity players post playing career. It’s not a given that the degree would be needed, but it’s certainly a plus to get it for free and could end up being useful.
 

mildone_rivals

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Having an advanced degree on your resume could be helpful down the road if you go into coaching, sports training, teaching for a school. These are common career paths for varsity players post playing career. It’s not a given that the degree would be needed, but it’s certainly a plus to get it for free and could end up being useful.
Absolutely. Obviously, people can be extremely successful in life without a graduate degree (or without any formal education at all, for that matter). But that fact is a far cry from saying most graduate degrees outside of STEM or an MBA are useless.

It's only ever gonna be useless if a person opts not to use it. Or if a person is somehow unable to use it (e.g. by dying young or something else outside their control).
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Absolutely. Obviously, people can be extremely successful in life without a graduate degree (or without any formal education at all, for that matter). But that fact is a far cry from saying most graduate degrees outside of STEM or an MBA are useless.

It's only ever gonna be useless if a person opts not to use it. Or if a person is somehow unable to use it (e.g. by dying young or something else outside their control).
For these kids, having the degree should in the least be helpful in negotiating a slightly higher salary at some point in their life for a job. Lots of job posts say - advanced degree a plus. Even if it’s just a check the box - having it is still better than not having it.